Security Watch Dog?

[Mycorama]

So a few days ago my apartment had been broken into, 2 zips of some homegrown dank ass, chronic nugs were stolen including a large sum of money.

I have thought about buying a video camera but thought that it might be a little more fun and rewarding to go adopt a dog.
I was just curious as to how many of you mycotopiates own a dog and what are some of the pros and cons to living with one.
i have never really owned a dog my whole life, my parents are both allergic, one to dogs one to cats so i was kinda fucked pet-wise living at home.

i was thinking maybe a bigger dog, like labrador, pitt bull (or) pitt terrier, dalmation or something along those lines.

At least if i had a dog, burglars might be a bit less inclined to come inside...

BTW. i am a single male living alone in a one bedroom apartment in a triplex so neighbors wouldnt be a problem, niether would room for the dog to run and play around in outdoors. I dont have a fixed income but i dont think it would be outside my limits to pay and care for a dog.

Anyways, what are you pet owners thinking?
Pros and Cons?
any other security issues you would like to bring up?

camera < watch dog????

[Hippie3]

i'd move
then get dogs, cameras.
dogs need to run, and a bored dog is destructive.
if you're gone a lot, leaving dog alone,
it'll get depressed and bored.

[Lookyhere]

Do you think you know the person that broke in? I had someone steal a gun and 12 OZ of dank, it was someone I new. I also another time had 2 people try and break into my condo, I new them also. If someone is going to break in they most likely know that you are gone (they don't want to get shot) and often times know what they hope to be scoring. IMO

Dogs are cool. Pits are really cool, just have to make sure that they are legal in the county/city you live. I have a Lab right now and 2 of my ex's had labs. Great dogs.

[Mycorama]

moving is not really an option right now. the apartments are owned by family and i am living here rent free at the moment.
so leaving for college wouldnt be a problem as i could leave the dog with family.
also we have plenty of room for the dog outdoors, 2 and a half acres of lawn and forest.
my neighbor up until he left to jail, had a dog also. i dont think he ever had any problems other than fleas..

though i feel a bit biased because i WANT a dog, i dont want to put one in a position that isnt benifitial for the animal.

maybe a smaller dog, like one of those annoying ass ankle biters? :LOL: just kidding...

[Lookyhere]

I had a beagle that was smart as hell. His name was Marley. Anyway, not too many people would be too scared of an ankle biter though.

[Mycorama]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

Do you think you know the person that broke in?
I have a Lab right now and 2 of my ex's had labs. Great dogs.

I believe i do know who broke in and once i do for sure, something will be done about it.
i even woke up when it happened and thought it was a squirrel on my roof. Luck for them i didnt come out in my boxers, it would have been a wrap for those fools..

anyways, getting back to a more modest mood...
I would love to go get a lab, i have been around many that i have fallen in love with and just get along with the dogs so well.
my only concern was that the lab would be TOO nice, seeing as how it was someone who had been over and knew where stuff was, the dog might know him (or her) by then as well..
but then again they could always bring along a fatty steak and throw it at the dog to avoid confrentation...

i have been told that labs are also great dogs because they are good to have when not around as often as with other dogs. Labs are quite content laying down and sleeping when there is nothing to do..

[Lookyhere]

That's all pretty true. As soon as a lab hears a noise though they will bark. After they see the person, if it's someone they perceive as non-threatening, yeah they might help the person carry your shit out the front door. Most dogs are like that though unless you train them not to be like that. If you train them not to be like that then they're not very friendly dogs and not the best pets.

[Fresh Brewed]

If someone knows you and is still steeling from you they will probably know your dog as well....so it might not be much of a deterent to someone you know. If it's just random crime I think a barking indoor dog of any size would be a great deterent. If I were picking houses to burgal I would sure skip over the house that had the noisy possibly painful pooch in favor of the next house with none.

[Mycorama]

Originally Posted by Fresh Brewed

If someone knows you and is still steeling from you they will probably know your dog as well.

good point, but then again i think i know who it was, and they along with everyone else i do not trust, will NOT be coming inside again for any reason.
these people were not really great friends obviously, and im a pretty nice guy who picks out fairly decent people to be around. but i think i pissed this guy off who was still butt hurt about it enough to break in and take what he didnt have, but wanted.

i want to mention again that i did wake up and almost got out of bed to check what was going on but decided it was an animal scurring across my roof, as it happens pretty often durring the nights. i think theres an opossum that lives in a tree near by..

[T H U R S L Y]

dogs are good and they are good company if your alone but if the person doing the crime has a slice of ham its over, so get a dog and a cheap camera and hide it inside not outside, and dont let people know what you do, what your have. i just had court friday for running a stop sign ( and i didnt do it, was the 29 and that means quota) and saw the guy that broke in to my house 2 times in 06 taking a sks assult rifle w/30 round clip with hollow points, 20g shot gun, 30-06 deer rifle with scope (i hunt alot, and shoot for fun), x-box (just got 6 games for it opened 2 of them), and he asked me in court dont i know you and i spoke out in a deep voice yea your the mf who robed me and told him to stop smoking rock as half the court and poepoe looked at him like he was a retard, but just dont pick up lots of phone calls, dont tell them where youll be, if they show up at wierd times in wierd clothing (bed room slippers and pants, what this dood did to me?) or tell them you got something you dont and tell them you are leaving and move your car away and wait inside, got some punk like that. beef up locks on doors and windows and hide your goods in pain in the ass places better to have to work for it to enjoy than to lose it bc you dont want to deal wtih it, hope it works out for ya man it sucks when you come home and everything is fucked one of the most helpless feelings you can get

[Hippie3]

a puppy won't be much use until about 1.5-2 years old.
you might just adopt an older animal
if your plan is that it'll lay around sleeping while you're gone.

[Mycorama]

thanks T H U R S L Y
and yeah telling the dude i got hella dank and that im leaving for a family thing would be a good idea, but i seriously doubt that dudes going to come around again. honestly if anything it was his friend encouraging him to come over and do it since his friend is broke as a joke and feeling jealous of everyone else who doesnt blow all their money.
even so, getting a camera is an option, but i would probably want to get an Infrared camera seeing as how they came in at night, durring the day isnt such a worry because the driveway leading to the apartment passes my landlords (my family) house. so they know when im generally home or not.
speaking of which, i know they drove in because someone in the house saw a car come and leave in 10 minutes around 3am.

i wouldnt have to feed a camera or take it for walks...

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

a puppy won't be much use until about 1.5-2 years old.
you might just adopt an older animal
if your plan is that it'll lay around sleeping while you're gone.

haha yeah exactly what i was thinking..
i think the question is more, what am i willing to do for a dog?
than should i get a watch dog or a video camera.
though the responcibility would be a rewarding thing for me IMO, i have to take the dog into conideration.

[dizzydank]

i got a big lab at my parents and a rot/shepard here. def good to have a dog around. if u want one too guard u and ur shit get a puppy and train it. we got ours at 5 weeks old and she will kill to defend us. dose not like anyone near our home or she takes it personaly. though having a dog is alot like having a 3 -4 yearold for the next 8-15 years depending on breed. cost of food isnt really to bad. tick meds and heart worm can be up on like 20-50 a month depending on brands u choose. and yes a bored dog will fuck ur place up. mine ripped out our bathroom floor at i think around 4 months old. got to keep alot of toys around if u leave the dog hoime alone and not locked up. proly gonna wanna make sure it pisses and shits outside b4 u leave it alone indoors allday roaming loose. but overall dogs are worth the work imho. very nice animals to be around. and if u get a naturaly meaner breed like rots and pits n such dogs that can really fuck someoen up get a puppy. dont want to get a older dog with a attitude problem. imho get em as babbys and train em as u see fit.

[T H U R S L Y]

ask them what kind of car it was (they may of been in bed and just saw lights i understand) but was it a car, suv, pickup and a color would be good. also if you put inside house lights may keep it from needing infrared you can get b/w and color for 35-70 from a sams where i am but you do need a membership. also if your doing outside invest in a wireless so you can keep your recorder inside and hide it so they cant take you tape/dvd. o btw i looked in a while back, a dvd recorder is like 70-100 but you can record for like 16hours unless to a computer, beats vcr(they dont even make them hardly)

[Mycorama]

i leave my lights off as much as possible as so i dont have to pay as much of an electric bill. so im not too sure a b/w camera would be sufficient to record durring the night.

i think i am going to look into adopting a puppy from the humane society or at least look into it on their website..

[Lookyhere]

When/if you get a dog, make sure that it isn't going to have a bunch of health problems in a couple of years. What I mean by that is... American German Shepherds usually have hip dysplasia where as German German Shepherds don't nearly as often. Read up on what type of dog you want and then you should be able to find what if any weaknesses the breed may have. Then you can try your best to avoid those weaknesses. Not only is getting a dog that will have problems in a couple of years very expensive, but it is also very hard to deal with, as that dog really does become a best friend.

[greenie]

i just adopted a 1.5 year old bluenose pit last week from a negligent owner. He already has gained 10 lbs and is healthy, happy and PROTECTIVE as hell. I now feel safe leaving my home unattended. Before the dog, i never left home without someone being there. Ive never been robbed, dont plan on it. i dont react well to things being stolen from me. Im sorry for your loss man, get a dog. they make u feel safer.

[Mermaidia]

Akitas are one of the best and most natural guard dogs.

Our male always greeted guests at the door. Some wouldn't come in until he was put up. He just had that air about him. He let you know real quick he was on to you.

If someone were to ever attempt getting in, I'd feel really sorry for them.

But as with any breed of dog, you'll need to get one that suits you and your lifestyle.

American Kennel Club - Akita

[onediadem]

American Bulldogs. Watch out! The father of one of mine ate a burglers toes off and they found them in the garage when they came home, lol. Nothing missing.

[randompolygamy]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

That's all pretty true. As soon as a lab hears a noise though they will bark. After they see the person, if it's someone they perceive as non-threatening, yeah they might help the person carry your shit out the front door. Most dogs are like that though unless you train them not to be like that. If you train them not to be like that then they're not very friendly dogs and not the best pets.

Sorry Looky,

More or less this statment is untrue. the correct part in this being that a dog if not trained will be nice to preditors, that being your burgalurs would have the upper hand.
Any dog of a larger statue will fit your situation.

Some questions your going to want to ask yourself would be,

how large of a dog do i want?

are my parents and friends going to be happy with my choice of pet, after going off to college? (ie. some people dont like pits. and also if trained will more than likly only obay its trainee, though that can be broke with work(training the person and showing the dog that this person is dominant over it.))

Why do i want this dog? (damage or noise? you want the dog to take action on the purp or Alert you to take action? or both?(im sure ull get woke up by an animal taking its own action without alerting you but, meh :P)

alright, some large dogs you may want to take into consideration,
Large
BullMastive, RoT, Boxer, or PIT

Mid-size
Lab, German shepherd, or doverman

Your going to want to stay away from any miniatures or just stright small dogs.
having a small dog leads to the issue that the purp can easily dispose of a smaller dog, more or less the smaller breeds are not usualy as bright as the larger ones (dont get me wrong there are large dumb moose out there :P) but for instance most small lap dogs are easily persuaded by treats or other things even if properly trained. i would just stay away from them all together but, if your going to get a small dog i would recommend something very timmad and laud, like a shitzu or somthing with a piercing bark that will alert you.
Ok, lets start with larger breeds first.
Bullmastive, is a very reliable breed as all larger dogs, but they have a laarger mass then 85% of all dogs. they are big. they are reliable in the sence they respond well to training and do what they are told. on a scale of 1-10 to train they are about a 6.
the tend to get disinterested if your trying to feed them a lot of information so training will need to be in bursts throught out a few days then repeted for weeks.
Rots and pits as well as B.M's (bullmastives) are reliable when it comes to protection, more above all a mature female pit will fight for its owners life untill its demise was the same as its owners. although any dog can be tought to do such things..even labs and more tame species this is a traite that the pits have from birth and dont need to be tought.

they are all great dogs, and now im crunched for time (just got off the phone with family gotta go do some running around soon.)

Mainly the breed doesnt matter, pick a size and make them YOUR dog, there are many ways to train animals to dislike anyone/anything the things u need to focus on first are the basicls sit/lay etc.. work on more difficult tasks after youve progressed with the dog and earned more trust. I STRONGLY SUGGEST GETTING A PUPPY.(any dog thats not a puppy and had a previous owner can have difficult times learning new things as well as they might have stigmas that make them not want to do certin things,like if u kick a dogs as as it goes through the door for somthing ti has done wrong it will be weery of passing through a doorway.
i would say if u want somthing big with size that can be tought to be lovabl as well as dangerious in the good ways then get ither a BM Rot or pit, i personaly love my PIT i have a purebread rednose pit which is albino and deaf. (training is VERY difficult but she is learning well.)

sorry for all the mumbeling n wut not but pick teh dog that you like the best, and will fit your budget. try getting a purebread ($$$)my pit cost me 150 bucks cuz it was deaf and albino but most of the time a purebread pit will go for anything from 200-1 grand depending upon its breed histroy.

MOre or less buy what u want it doesnt matter its all about the training. if u want more insight on a specific breed please PM me and ill give you all the info i can.

Labs and retrivers are easy to train, although are more for the bark instead of the bite. the larger breeds i specified are for the bite over the bark.

And as far as training goes, i know of a few ways to train pits and others to dislike everyone or anything that is different from it is to keep it from learning what thoes things are (ie oeioke) locking a dog in a room away from others is somthing i discurage, although any drug dealer will tell u otherwise. the same outcome can be brought upon you and the dog in a more humane way.

Get a dog, give it a home, give it love, and train it and it will do whatever you please it to, i suggest start researching on how to train the different breeds rather than trying to figure out which is best for what you want.

Hope this helps and sorry for rambeling on, i tend to do that when im crunched for time.

Please feel free to PM me for any questions u have in your dog hunting venture!!!

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other notes:

Akitas are a very good dog for this, as well as chows they are a medium size dog but most of the time it demands respect from everyone around and also unless trained will take advantage of its owners weakness's with chows they dislike anyone but their owner..

Looky, with american vs True germen sheperds, this trait can be beat by paper tracking, track a dog back to its germen genes and look at the timeline, see if any of the dog devloped it under the age of 9 years old. if it did there is more than likly a false pure in the gene pool, this happened a lot back in the 80's when the US police forces started breeding with labs for the more acute genes. thats a lab traite not a GS traite but your right, keep your eyes open while buying a GS lab or Retriver, they all have the same tendancies, younger on its usualy arthrite in the hip or cancer (usualy starts at teh gullbladder.

something to take into consideration is a breed dominant with wolf directly in their ancestry.

it is also KEY to get it de-wormed and keep it up to date on its shots just as any child.

[randompolygamy]

Originally Posted by Mycorama

thanks T H U R S L Y
and yeah telling the dude i got hella dank and that im leaving for a family thing would be a good idea, but i seriously doubt that dudes going to come around again. honestly if anything it was his friend encouraging him to come over and do it since his friend is broke as a joke and feeling jealous of everyone else who doesnt blow all their money.
even so, getting a camera is an option, but i would probably want to get an Infrared camera seeing as how they came in at night, durring the day isnt such a worry because the driveway leading to the apartment passes my landlords (my family) house. so they know when im generally home or not.
speaking of which, i know they drove in because someone in the house saw a car come and leave in 10 minutes around 3am.

i wouldnt have to feed a camera or take it for walks...

EDIT:

haha yeah exactly what i was thinking..
i think the question is more, what am i willing to do for a dog?
than should i get a watch dog or a video camera.
though the responcibility would be a rewarding thing for me IMO, i have to take the dog into conideration.

On this i would deffinitly take both, get a dog young. and train it well. get the cameras for the mean time. but getting a younger dog for more and training it will save u the hassel of getting a year and half dog that will be harder to train and take longer to earn trust with

[Mermaidia]

Akitas are a very good dog for this, as well as chows they are a medium size dog but most of the time it demands respect from everyone around and also unless trained will take advantage of its owners weakness's with chows they dislike anyone but their owner..

That is very true about akitas. A strong personality is needed to own one of these dogs, imo. You will constantly be tested. But they are extremely loyal dogs.
One other note about akitas, is I would NEVER train it to be aggressive or to attack. These dogs are very aggressive in nature. Once they are attached to you and have earned your trust and respect, they would not hesitate to lay down their life for you.

The breed is not for everyone. The blow their coats when the seasons change, so if you don't have the time to brush and brush and brush some more you definitely don't want an akita.

Ours are dearly missed.

[Lookyhere]

What I meant when I said "As soon as a lab hears a noise though they will bark. After they see the person, if it's someone they perceive as non-threatening, yeah they might help the person carry your shit out the front door." what I meant was that if it is someone that they know and see around and perceive as a non-threatening person you are SOL. As far as the second part of that paragraph I said, I retract it. My dad had 2 police trained German Shepherds. One only knew English, the other German. They were trained my the leading dog trainer in CA. They were great dogs. If anyone ever broke in or climbed the fence or anything they would be screwed. They were very intimidating dogs. I think though, if one of his friends went to his house that his dogs know and see all the time, the dogs would see it as a non-threat and not do a whole lot of protecting items.

[weeeeeee]

well an easy fix for this problem IMO is to go get a safe and a u bolt open up the safe drill 2 holes run your u bolt through the holes and around a stud in the wall. you will have to patch a couple holes when you move but they will be tiny and not a problem

this is what i have always done and it seemed to have worked all people who know about the safe also know that its not going anywhere unless i open it so that knida narrows it down to strong arm robberies and generally your friends are not going to come in like that but dogs are nice as well id say do em both you can get a cheapo safe at meijer for like 100 bucks and with it bolted to the wall you should be secure

[weeeeeee]

oh and if you decide to go with this method you wanna drill all your holes first then run the u bolt around the stud leaving the threaded end sticking out so you can run the end with nuts inside of the locked safe good luck and good vibes


in case you dont know what a u bolt is you would want to get one like this so it couldnt somehow be pryed/ripped out

[Hippie3]

don't fuck around,
go with a great dane.

[Lookyhere]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

don't fuck around,
go with a great dane.
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no shit. I had a Great Dane when I was 2-3. I used to ride it around like a horse.

[prism1234]

My Boy!!!

Boxer German shepard mix... Save my house from robbers last New Years Eve.

Love my dog!!