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    Old 02-03-07, 11:52   #1 (permalink)
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    A little Peyote seed growlog

    In this little tread I'm gonne show how I grow my Peyote seeds...

    the things I used are..
    - 20 Peyote seeds
    - a small tray
    - Heating mat
    - Grow Lux lighting bulb
    - Timer
    - Box
    - and for mixture 33 % sand,33% Vermiculiet and 33% Perlite

    The sand,verm.,perlite and a little water were mixed and 'sterilized' in the microwave for 10 minutes. (picture 1)
    After that the seeds (picture 2) were layed on top of it,and covered with wet vermiculiet (picture 4)
    Then I covered the tray with plastic foil,..so it's airtight ! (picture 5)

    It's now on the heating mat in the wooden box, that I painted white on the inside. (last picture)
    Timer is set on 14 hours of light a day.
    The first couple of days the temperature inside the box will be 28 oC..later the temp will be droped to 24 oC.

    Will update as soon as I see some growth !
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    Old 02-03-07, 14:17   #2 (permalink)
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    Very nice set up ,eager to see how it goes!
    Need to make myself one like yours.
    Thanks

    start mine like this
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    Old 02-03-07, 14:23   #3 (permalink)
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    Nice...!

    Those are the smallest pretty looking growhouses I ever seen !
    Good work !
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    Old 02-03-07, 14:52   #4 (permalink)
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    Nice! Keep us updated.

    I started some last week and just had 2 pop the other day
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    Old 02-03-07, 15:32   #5 (permalink)
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    Neat thread...Whats the usual germination time..?
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    Old 02-03-07, 15:41   #6 (permalink)
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    I find 6 days is normally the starting point where they begin to germ. This is with both lophs and trichos. I am thinking you may need some nutes without any soil present in your mix. A very weak mix of peters or miracle grow after a couple of months wouldnt hurt.
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    Old 02-03-07, 16:08   #7 (permalink)
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    I hate using chemicals with shrooms and cacti...

    They will do fine without it,..but thanks for the tip anyhow...!
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    Old 02-03-07, 16:15   #8 (permalink)
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    How much time it takes to place them in another place after germination and how can they grow without NPK?
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    Old 02-03-07, 16:25   #9 (permalink)
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    Every seed has it's own sourche of nutes to get him going thru the first week or months,even these tiny seeds.

    It's best to keep them in the first tray.. the first couple of month ,till they have grown stronger...
    After that you can transplant them to clay pots with a better soil.
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    Old 02-04-07, 16:05   #10 (permalink)
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    You are looking at a year at the least to xplant them. I grow my seeds on an inert material, but after a couple of months i throw them some food. They seem to really respond to it. I agree they will live without food, but you may find an organic alternative that blows your hair back.
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    Nice Spacecake, I use small containers as well, half filled with coarse sharp sand. The sand is moistened with an all-purpose liquid fert at 1/4 strength then nuked in the microwave for a few min. Once cooled, seeds are planted and misted with fungicide, lids put in place and put on a heat mat under a flouro where they will live undisturbed for the first few months of their lives
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    Old 02-05-07, 11:40   #12 (permalink)
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    You are looking at a year at the least to xplant them. I grow my seeds on an inert material, but after a couple of months i throw them some food. They seem to really respond to it. I agree they will live without food, but you may find an organic alternative that blows your hair back.
    Hmmm well if you do think it will increase growth so much,then I'll give it a try ,after a couple of month or so...!
    I shall look for some natural stuff
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    Looks very good Hailey !
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    Old 02-05-07, 13:54   #14 (permalink)
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    Old 02-05-07, 15:03   #15 (permalink)
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    nice SC, please keep this thread going and updated, i am really interested. i am trying to germ some myself but its 1st time, so might not work, using a totally different method, if they sprout ill post pix. good luck
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    Nice yotes Space......

    and i would also like to concur with what rocket said about the - weak nutrient mix for the cacti, organic or not.....It will provide benefits in the future...
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    You are looking at a year at the least to xplant them. I grow my seeds on an inert material, but after a couple of months i throw them some food. They seem to really respond to it. I agree they will live without food, but you may find an organic alternative that blows your hair back.
    What "Organic Alternative" do you use, if I may ask?
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    Hey nice set ups...at the moment i just have six peruvians in a ferreo rocher (spelling) chocolate box ....very easy to maintain...i just tape the lid down and open when i feal they need a bit of misting or to remove small mold growing on the mix.

    I use my play station as a heat pad...works pretty well ahha

    Oh and theirs a picture of what the rain has done around here laterly.
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    Today I went to take a look at the tray,and discovered that a couple seeds have germinated..!
    I counted five of them,and they look good so far... (see pics)

    There is only a strange dark area in the tray, that could be some kind of mold..(mid-top of the picture 1) or someting else..don't know yet (picture doesn't show it well)

    Here some pics...!

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    nice pix
    of course a peyote growlog will take a couple decades to complete
    but we're here for ya
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    Old 02-10-07, 10:56   #21 (permalink)
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    Today I went to take a look at the tray,and discovered that a couple seeds have germinated..!
    I counted five of them,and they look good so far... (see pics)

    There is only a strange dark area in the tray, that could be some kind of mold..(mid-top of the picture 1) or someting else..don't know yet (picture doesn't show it well)

    Here some pics...!

    I count six! I have twelve out of twenty seeds that have germinated thus far, one just two days ago,planted two months ago or so! They definitely come when THEY want too! Nice pic by the way Space!
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    nice pix
    of course a peyote growlog will take a couple decades to complete
    but we're here for ya
    Unless you graft them, that is!
    But regardless, as long as I live and have a computer this will ALWAYS be my HOMEPAGE!
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    nice pix
    of course a peyote growlog will take a couple decades to complete
    but we're here for ya
    Right..., thanks for reminding me..lol !
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    So..took some pictures today of those little seedlings...

    There are now 14 little peyotes germinated,..and if you look closely ,one (seed)row in the middle didn't germinate,and I think those seeds are burned...it had gotten too hot, the first three days in the tray,so I gues the middle part was the hottest place in the tray !?

    Well here are the pics again...



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    Old 03-11-07, 14:28   #25 (permalink)
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    Rock on! This is exactly what I've been looking for. I've made a couple attempts at growing but haven't had much success. With your help, I can do this now. I just happen to have the 3 ingredients for the soil just lying around the house. I will definitly try this tek. Thanks, Spacecake!
     
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    After you sterilize your mix in the microwave, do you add more water to the mix (mine is bone-dry) or do you just rely on the wet verm top layer?
     
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    You have to add water when the substrate is dried out...
    ..after adding water you can allways heat it up again for a short time if you want too !
    Or just add some hot boiled water.
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    I wanted to thank you once again, Spacecake. I made a tray with 3 rows of 7 seeds with the mix you suggested. Exactly 7 days later, I saw a sign of life. It's now been 10 days and I count 4 growing. Thank you very much! This was the mix I was looking for.
     
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    When I get some more seed to try out from flowers I think I will use just sterile desert sand as its much finer in grain size than the verm or perlite I see in stores, I like a very fine medium for seed starting!
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    I wanted to thank you once again, Spacecake. I made a tray with 3 rows of 7 seeds with the mix you suggested. Exactly 7 days later, I saw a sign of life. It's now been 10 days and I count 4 growing. Thank you very much! This was the mix I was looking for.
    I'm glad it worked out for you Stroph...!

    Now watch them closely !
    Make sure they get the perfect lighting and moister etc..
    If they get to tall,then they need more light,if they start to turn dark..then they got to much of it !

    Good luck !
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    Nice job Spacecake Nice pics also, and nice setup Hailey.
    How much verm did you put on them would you say? I was thinking when you said you placed them on a heatmat,
    do those have cords which generate the heat? If so maybe the one row that didnt come up was on top of one of the cords.. Keep us posted on the lil guys growth and how they are doing.
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