Cactus bread?

grimblegrumble · 04-17-05, 16:57

Doobydoobydoos thread on Opuntia cactus got me to looking at recipes using it.
There are alot of them.
I ran across recipes for cactus bread.
No, not the desert pizza.

Now,
Couldn't one replace the cactus flour in this recipe with say, dried pedro flour?
I know that heat could be an issue when cooking.
Mescaline has a boiling point of 180c right?
Could one make a modified recipe with a lower baking temp?
I know the bread would probably taste awful.
But so does eating 100 capsules or drinking hideous syrup.
What do y'all think?

~Hippie3 · 04-19-05, 20:48

i dunno,
you gotta chew bread a bit,
the taste might well beat ya.
let us know if you try...

phalanx · 04-19-05, 20:54

You would have to chew it up well and wash it down with some water, so I don't think it would work out any better than syrup in terms of bulk and taste.

grimblegrumble · 04-20-05, 20:24

I really am thinking of giving it a shot.
Perhaps.
I'll be sure to let you know if I do.

grimblegrumble · 05-30-05, 14:33

Well, I did it.
It was hell to eat.
As expected.
What wasn't expected was the POWERFUL experience I had from that foul bread.
I ate maybe 60 grms worth of good ole Peruvian Torch, about 75% of the bread.
I have had 75 grms in pills before, but it was nothing like this.
Also, after I puked, about 3 hours in, my stomach was perfect the entire time after. NO diareahha.
I don't know if I will ever do this bread thing again, but I think it was better overall than those damn pills.
All that gelatin really messes my stomach up.
But even the thought of eating that bread makes me want to puke right now.

05-30-05, 15:05

lol, thats cool man, cactibread

waylitjim · 05-30-05, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimblegrumble

Well, I did it.
It was hell to eat. As expected.What wasn't expected was the POWERFUL experience I had from that foul bread.

Can you describe the experience...in what way was it powerful?
P. Torch syrup is just the worst tasting stuff, god bless you for keeping it down three hours.

I lasted about one hour with that foul green goop. Ehhh!

grimblegrumble · 05-30-05, 18:53

Powerful as in I tripped my ass off.
I couldn't even go outside all day.
The sun was like the blinding lights of heaven.
I reached a level I had not before.
This was only my like my 5th time with cactus.
I think maybe the mixing and baking somehow made the alkaloids more readily available to absorb.
Just a guess.
It seemed to kick in a lot faster too.
Maybe it was just me, but I don't think so.

~Hippie3 · 05-31-05, 04:41

cool, at least it worked.
maybe try rolling bread into little balls and washing down with liquid ?
what was the bread's texture like, crumbly, fluffy, dense ??
what was the recipe you used ?

~Hippie3 · 05-31-05, 04:41

archive material

grimblegrumble · 05-31-05, 12:17

Here is the recipe I used.
I opted for this one as it did not need to rise at all and used several different flours.
[I]
Five-grain Soda Bread #20405
Quick and easy, we make it often. Freeze well and very nice toasted. (if you don't have all the flours, use a combination of what you have to make a total of 3 1/4 cups. from The lighthearted cookbook by Anne Lindsay
1/2 cup all-purpose flour
3/8 cup whole-wheat flour
3/8 cup rye flour
3/8 cup graham flour
3/8 cup rolled oats
1 tablespoon granulated sugar
1/2 tablespoon baking powder
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 tablespoons soft margarine or vegetable oil
3/8 cup raisins (optional)
7/8 cup buttermilk

In bowl, combine all purpose, whole wheat, rye, graham flours and rolled oats, sugar, baking powder, baking soda and salt.
Cut in margarine until well mixed.
Stir in raisins, if using, add buttermilk and stir to make soft dough.
Turn out onto lightly floured surface and knead about 10 times or until smooth.
Place on greased baking sheet, flatten into circle about 2 1/2 inches thick.
Cut a large"x" about 1/4 inch deep on top.
Bake in 350 degree oven for 1 hour or until toothpick inserted in center comes out clean.

What I did was to replace 1/8 cup to 1/4 of each flour with a total of about 3/4 cup (about 100grms) of Peruvian Torch Flour.
I didn't use any raisins.
I lowered the baking temp to 300 and baked abut 15 mins longer.

The bread turned out very, very moist.
Too moist really, and very dense.
VERY BITTER.
Not easy to eat.
I used lots of honey to help choke it down and lots of water

More sugar in the recipe would be better.
In fact, I think a different recipe might be better all around.
I would like to try a more traditional bread recipe next time.
Perhaps the rising would fluff it out a bit.
I did take some pictures, but somehow later on, I accidentally erased them

~Hippie3 · 06-01-05, 07:10

thanks!

grimblegrumble · 06-05-05, 02:09

Your Welcome.

So like I said, I had to use lots of honey to counter act the bitterness.
That got me to thinking.
Why not cactus pancakes covered in syrup?
Hmmm...
That might be my next shot.
It certainly won't be too soon.
I have to rebuild the gumption to eat something like that.

~Hippie3 · 06-05-05, 05:54

lol
i gotta admire your fortitude
to even consider cactus pancakes.

SyntheMesc · 06-05-05, 09:05

Wow.

I must say that is one of the more interesting/disgusting things I have seen in a bit.

Good attempt at making pv a little more palatable to ingest tho.

Good luck with any subsequent attempts at psychedelic baking as well.

Ever think of chocolate covered doughut holes?

They're small, and require only a tiny bit of chewing to swallow.

Covered in chocolate might help a good bit as well.

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04-17-05, 16:57	#1 (permalink)
grimblegrumble Mycophage Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 152	Cactus bread? Doobydoobydoos thread on Opuntia cactus got me to looking at recipes using it. There are alot of them. I ran across recipes for cactus bread. No, not the desert pizza. Now, Couldn't one replace the cactus flour in this recipe with say, dried pedro flour? I know that heat could be an issue when cooking. Mescaline has a boiling point of 180c right? Could one make a modified recipe with a lower baking temp? I know the bread would probably taste awful. But so does eating 100 capsules or drinking hideous syrup. What do y'all think?

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04-19-05, 20:48	#2 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	i dunno, you gotta chew bread a bit, the taste might well beat ya. let us know if you try...

04-19-05, 20:54	#3 (permalink)
phalanx Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 1970 Posts: 598	You would have to chew it up well and wash it down with some water, so I don't think it would work out any better than syrup in terms of bulk and taste.

04-20-05, 20:24	#4 (permalink)
grimblegrumble Mycophage Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 152	I really am thinking of giving it a shot. Perhaps. I'll be sure to let you know if I do.

05-30-05, 14:33	#5 (permalink)
grimblegrumble Mycophage Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 152	Well, I did it. It was hell to eat. As expected. What wasn't expected was the POWERFUL experience I had from that foul bread. I ate maybe 60 grms worth of good ole Peruvian Torch, about 75% of the bread. I have had 75 grms in pills before, but it was nothing like this. Also, after I puked, about 3 hours in, my stomach was perfect the entire time after. NO diareahha. I don't know if I will ever do this bread thing again, but I think it was better overall than those damn pills. All that gelatin really messes my stomach up. But even the thought of eating that bread makes me want to puke right now.

05-30-05, 15:05	#6 (permalink)
~JT Guest Posts: n/a	lol, thats cool man, cactibread

05-30-05, 18:53	#8 (permalink)
grimblegrumble Mycophage Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 152	Powerful as in I tripped my ass off. I couldn't even go outside all day. The sun was like the blinding lights of heaven. I reached a level I had not before. This was only my like my 5th time with cactus. I think maybe the mixing and baking somehow made the alkaloids more readily available to absorb. Just a guess. It seemed to kick in a lot faster too. Maybe it was just me, but I don't think so.

05-31-05, 04:41	#9 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	cool, at least it worked. maybe try rolling bread into little balls and washing down with liquid ? what was the bread's texture like, crumbly, fluffy, dense ?? what was the recipe you used ?

05-31-05, 04:41	#10 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	archive material

05-31-05, 12:17	#11 (permalink)
grimblegrumble Mycophage Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 152	Here is the recipe I used. I opted for this one as it did not need to rise at all and used several different flours. [I] Five-grain Soda Bread #20405 Quick and easy, we make it often. Freeze well and very nice toasted. (if you don't have all the flours, use a combination of what you have to make a total of 3 1/4 cups. from The lighthearted cookbook by Anne Lindsay 1/2 cup all-purpose flour 3/8 cup whole-wheat flour 3/8 cup rye flour 3/8 cup graham flour 3/8 cup rolled oats 1 tablespoon granulated sugar 1/2 tablespoon baking powder 1/2 teaspoon baking soda 1/4 teaspoon salt 1 1/2 tablespoons soft margarine or vegetable oil 3/8 cup raisins (optional) 7/8 cup buttermilk In bowl, combine all purpose, whole wheat, rye, graham flours and rolled oats, sugar, baking powder, baking soda and salt. Cut in margarine until well mixed. Stir in raisins, if using, add buttermilk and stir to make soft dough. Turn out onto lightly floured surface and knead about 10 times or until smooth. Place on greased baking sheet, flatten into circle about 2 1/2 inches thick. Cut a large"x" about 1/4 inch deep on top. Bake in 350 degree oven for 1 hour or until toothpick inserted in center comes out clean. What I did was to replace 1/8 cup to 1/4 of each flour with a total of about 3/4 cup (about 100grms) of Peruvian Torch Flour. I didn't use any raisins. I lowered the baking temp to 300 and baked abut 15 mins longer. The bread turned out very, very moist. Too moist really, and very dense. VERY BITTER. Not easy to eat. I used lots of honey to help choke it down and lots of water More sugar in the recipe would be better. In fact, I think a different recipe might be better all around. I would like to try a more traditional bread recipe next time. Perhaps the rising would fluff it out a bit. I did take some pictures, but somehow later on, I accidentally erased them

06-01-05, 07:10	#12 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	thanks!

06-05-05, 02:09	#13 (permalink)
grimblegrumble Mycophage Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 152	Your Welcome. So like I said, I had to use lots of honey to counter act the bitterness. That got me to thinking. Why not cactus pancakes covered in syrup? Hmmm... That might be my next shot. It certainly won't be too soon. I have to rebuild the gumption to eat something like that.

06-05-05, 05:54	#14 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,760	lol i gotta admire your fortitude to even consider cactus pancakes.

06-05-05, 09:05	#15 (permalink)
SyntheMesc Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	Wow. I must say that is one of the more interesting/disgusting things I have seen in a bit. Good attempt at making pv a little more palatable to ingest tho. Good luck with any subsequent attempts at psychedelic baking as well. Ever think of chocolate covered doughut holes? They're small, and require only a tiny bit of chewing to swallow. Covered in chocolate might help a good bit as well.