first grow on wbs sa & tex

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-18-06, 16:22

hi im new hear so hey guys was up umm if spelling is off im sorry im for a hispanic contry and dont know how t spell that good in english

i soked wbs for 24 hrs the simmered for 30 mins i pced 2 grain bags of wbs about 1.5 lbs each for 1 hr then i pced another 2 for about 30 mins (long story) i ingected 2 with 4 cc and 3 cc of tex and the other 2 with 4 cc each of sa they where done on saterday will post pics wheni get first sines on con

oibchip · 10-18-06, 16:25

Hope it all comes out well

llamabox · 10-18-06, 16:34

We are rooting for ya, keep us posted.

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-18-06, 17:20

let u know llamma btw lam my post office has been closed this week for somereson will be going to one across town to see if its open

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-18-06, 17:21

update i just checked the bags no sign of growth yet umm 1 bag has a bad smell to it i should spreate it from the rest right i knew this bag was going to contam as it riped and today it had a sweet smell shuld i save it to see if i could use it to make and outdoor bed or just check it outside as compost

dial8 · 10-18-06, 18:50

If it has contaminated that fast I bet the mycelium really won't do well even if you isolate it and hang on to it. I'd chunk it in the compost pile. Who knows, you may see a few fruits off of it.

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-18-06, 18:55

im gesin its contam no visulas only smell to go on by when should i see some growth?

blackr00t · 10-18-06, 18:58

it was interesting to find the title of this thread. i am starting my 2nd grow, the first one was about a year ago; i decided to go with WBS and i got some sa and tex syringes. I plan on using qt jars and rez-effect for fruiting, so maybe i'll post my results when i get things going.

dial8 · 10-18-06, 18:59

3-7 days is normal germination time although it can take a few days longer. So does the contaminated bag smell like rotten apples or garbage? If so that is a bacterial contamination and if it is contaminated you should be able to see signs of it in a day or two. I'll get a link to a bacillus contamination...brb.

dial8 · 10-18-06, 19:01

Here is a link. Your grains/seeds will take on this greasy look if it is indeed a bacterial contamination. http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthre...light=bacillus (Pictures of Bacillus)

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-18-06, 19:22

hear are some pics umm i just saw that red thing is it a contam or no?

SharkieJones · 10-18-06, 22:32

Good luck.

10-19-06, 00:26

Hmmm looks like it... Ive seen it on some contamed jars ive had.. but there was always other shit in there so i didnt pay attention to it...
it maybe due to over saturation?? is it real wet in there?

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-19-06, 06:01

no not now it was right after cooking and pcing

JaR · 10-19-06, 07:31

Might be some dye or ink.?

dial8 · 10-19-06, 10:36

Looks like contamination to me but the picture is kind of blurry.

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-19-06, 18:17

its just like 1 or 2 of the grains in the whole bag that have them havent checked the bags today
will uodadte if any growth has happen

eternalfrost · 10-19-06, 19:57

ive sen that pink blotches before, turned out to be a bacteria infection from a bad spore syringe

Lazlo · 10-19-06, 21:19

Agreed. That does look like bacteria.

That bag you have made should work fine Guy. I know damn well who gave you that simmer advice and it's bad advice for the beginner using whole grains. There's no need in simmering your grains after a 24 hours soak. Stay away from the simmer all together and stick with the soak and drain. If I were you, i'd simply soak the wild bird seed for 12 hours only. This gives you a bit of lead way for the grain's final moisture content if you haven't drained your seed well. Let the wild bird seed soak for 12 hours and then drain it well in a collander for an hour. Make sure there's no dripping water comming from the collander when you shake it. Also; prior to loading the seed in your bags, mix all of the seed up with a spoon in the collander so all of the excess moisture in evenly distributed throughout the grains. Then immediately load up your bags to be pc'd for 2 hours @15psi. Done and i'll nearly gaurantee success. Good luck none the less and seek your advice here at Mycotopia.

Lazlo · 10-19-06, 22:15

By the way Guy, you don't need that much filter space for your bags. 1 inch of filter space is plenty.

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-20-06, 07:30

its not that big its about an ich circle just that its raped around so i dont have any littel holes or any thing i think i fallowed a tek o hear ummm doc tek i think it was im hoping i get 1 bag lol

Lazlo · 10-20-06, 12:23

Ahh, got ya. I saw that a certain someone had given you advice for simmering at the Shroomery also. Doc's tek needs some adjusting then.

DGuyOnTheCorner · 10-20-06, 13:17

ya i asked and theat the anser iv got

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10-18-06, 16:22	#1 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	first grow on wbs sa & tex hi im new hear so hey guys was up umm if spelling is off im sorry im for a hispanic contry and dont know how t spell that good in english i soked wbs for 24 hrs the simmered for 30 mins i pced 2 grain bags of wbs about 1.5 lbs each for 1 hr then i pced another 2 for about 30 mins (long story) i ingected 2 with 4 cc and 3 cc of tex and the other 2 with 4 cc each of sa they where done on saterday will post pics wheni get first sines on con

10-18-06, 16:34	#3 (permalink)
llamabox Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,277	We are rooting for ya, keep us posted. __________________ By, Rocketman "Well since you asked....."

10-18-06, 19:22	#11 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	hear are some pics umm i just saw that red thing is it a contam or no? Attached Thumbnails $first-grow-wbs-sa-tex-10-18-06_1913.jpg$ $first-grow-wbs-sa-tex-10-18-06_1914.jpg$ $first-grow-wbs-sa-tex-10-18-06_1915.jpg$ $first-grow-wbs-sa-tex-10-18-06_1916.jpg$

10-18-06, 22:32	#12 (permalink)
SharkieJones Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,900	Good luck. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVy5XHjuGI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMXdc0JNS4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JdhiWmz0BE

10-18-06, 16:25	#2 (permalink)
oibchip Space Lord Modulator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,064	Hope it all comes out well

10-18-06, 17:20	#4 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	let u know llamma btw lam my post office has been closed this week for somereson will be going to one across town to see if its open

10-18-06, 17:21	#5 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	update i just checked the bags no sign of growth yet umm 1 bag has a bad smell to it i should spreate it from the rest right i knew this bag was going to contam as it riped and today it had a sweet smell shuld i save it to see if i could use it to make and outdoor bed or just check it outside as compost

10-18-06, 18:50	#6 (permalink)
dial8 Un Undead ***er8tor Join Date: Jun 1976 Posts: 3,180	If it has contaminated that fast I bet the mycelium really won't do well even if you isolate it and hang on to it. I'd chunk it in the compost pile. Who knows, you may see a few fruits off of it.

10-18-06, 18:55	#7 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	im gesin its contam no visulas only smell to go on by when should i see some growth?

10-18-06, 18:58	#8 (permalink)
blackr00t Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10	it was interesting to find the title of this thread. i am starting my 2nd grow, the first one was about a year ago; i decided to go with WBS and i got some sa and tex syringes. I plan on using qt jars and rez-effect for fruiting, so maybe i'll post my results when i get things going.

10-18-06, 18:59	#9 (permalink)
dial8 Un Undead ***er8tor Join Date: Jun 1976 Posts: 3,180	3-7 days is normal germination time although it can take a few days longer. So does the contaminated bag smell like rotten apples or garbage? If so that is a bacterial contamination and if it is contaminated you should be able to see signs of it in a day or two. I'll get a link to a bacillus contamination...brb.

10-18-06, 19:01	#10 (permalink)
dial8 Un Undead ***er8tor Join Date: Jun 1976 Posts: 3,180	Here is a link. Your grains/seeds will take on this greasy look if it is indeed a bacterial contamination. http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthre...light=bacillus (Pictures of Bacillus)

10-19-06, 00:26	#13 (permalink)
~DaGoon Guest Posts: n/a	Hmmm looks like it... Ive seen it on some contamed jars ive had.. but there was always other shit in there so i didnt pay attention to it... it maybe due to over saturation?? is it real wet in there?

10-19-06, 06:01	#14 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	no not now it was right after cooking and pcing

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10-19-06, 07:31	#15 (permalink)
JaR Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 98	Might be some dye or ink.?

10-19-06, 10:36	#16 (permalink)
dial8 Un Undead ***er8tor Join Date: Jun 1976 Posts: 3,180	Looks like contamination to me but the picture is kind of blurry.

10-19-06, 18:17	#17 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	its just like 1 or 2 of the grains in the whole bag that have them havent checked the bags today will uodadte if any growth has happen

10-19-06, 19:57	#18 (permalink)
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10-19-06, 21:19	#19 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,057	Agreed. That does look like bacteria. That bag you have made should work fine Guy. I know damn well who gave you that simmer advice and it's bad advice for the beginner using whole grains. There's no need in simmering your grains after a 24 hours soak. Stay away from the simmer all together and stick with the soak and drain. If I were you, i'd simply soak the wild bird seed for 12 hours only. This gives you a bit of lead way for the grain's final moisture content if you haven't drained your seed well. Let the wild bird seed soak for 12 hours and then drain it well in a collander for an hour. Make sure there's no dripping water comming from the collander when you shake it. Also; prior to loading the seed in your bags, mix all of the seed up with a spoon in the collander so all of the excess moisture in evenly distributed throughout the grains. Then immediately load up your bags to be pc'd for 2 hours @15psi. Done and i'll nearly gaurantee success. Good luck none the less and seek your advice here at Mycotopia. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

10-19-06, 22:15	#20 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,057	By the way Guy, you don't need that much filter space for your bags. 1 inch of filter space is plenty. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

10-20-06, 07:30	#21 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	its not that big its about an ich circle just that its raped around so i dont have any littel holes or any thing i think i fallowed a tek o hear ummm doc tek i think it was im hoping i get 1 bag lol

10-20-06, 12:23	#22 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,057	Ahh, got ya. I saw that a certain someone had given you advice for simmering at the Shroomery also. Doc's tek needs some adjusting then. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

10-20-06, 13:17	#23 (permalink)
DGuyOnTheCorner Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	ya i asked and theat the anser iv got

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