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    Old 11-26-06, 20:12   #1 (permalink)
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    Question penis envies that look more like rotten balls...

    FOAF started with 12 jars that grew mycelium normally, with no contamination or off colors. She put them in 4 different fruiting chambers using perlite bottom, and after a few weeks of airing out every day something doesnt quite look right...
    The strain was penis envy, but these are the most fucked up looking things ive ever seen, i think my FOAF had some nightmares about this shit...the more "developed" aka older ones do not look right at all, mutation maybe? or something else?? contamination?? rather than healthy looking fungus, there are misshapen monstrosities growing off the cakes, and the second pic seems to be contaminated with something. also not sure of the bluish tint is just bruising, or maybe something else? any input on this situation would be greeaattly appreciated!!!...hopefully my FOAF can find out what the hell is going on here....
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    Old 11-26-06, 20:19   #2 (permalink)
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    I've seen this type of thing posted before with the PE strain. All of the strange fungus can be eaten you know? I'd harvest everything off of the cake and would dry all of it. Weird mutations and all. Eating them won't hurt you.
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    Old 11-26-06, 20:33   #3 (permalink)
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    heard of that happening, also heard that when the process was repeated after dunking the shrooms sorted themselves out

    not sure of how that worked but passing the word on..
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    Old 11-26-06, 20:52   #4 (permalink)
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    Yes, that's true. The next flush more than likely will provide more normal looking fruitbodies. The balls of mycelium are edible, but the problem with them is they dry up to nearly nothing. But who cares. Get what you can on this flush, clean the excess mushroom tissue off of the cakes well from the harvest, dunk the cakes for 12 hours and then double end case them for round 2. Round 2 will work out much better. Good luck.
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    Old 11-26-06, 20:56   #5 (permalink)
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    Also, make sure to give the terarrium 4-5 FAE's and mistings a day for healthy mushroom growth. And definately avoid Lysol or that type of air or surface cleaners around the terrarium. Not good.
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    Old 11-26-06, 20:59   #6 (permalink)
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    Deformed penises.

    Pretty freaky looking.
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    Old 11-26-06, 21:10   #7 (permalink)
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    Very interesting, I haven't ever seen them this deformed before!
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    Old 11-26-06, 21:16   #8 (permalink)
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    thanks for the advice folks, ill keep posted on any developements...
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    Old 11-26-06, 22:36   #9 (permalink)
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    also check your procedure,,,was there and cleaning agent being used during the growth process such as lysol and other disinfectant sprays,,,if not you got a narly mutants,,,

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    Old 11-26-06, 22:54   #10 (permalink)
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    those things are god damn HUGE. to bad they dry up to nearly nothing or they would b neato!
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    Old 11-26-06, 23:12   #11 (permalink)
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    I just had this happen with some cakes, too. Just cleaned and dunked 'em, we'll see what happens.
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    Old 11-26-06, 23:50   #12 (permalink)
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    those things are god damn HUGE. to bad they dry up to nearly nothing or they would b neato!
    You mean PE's? IME they dry better than any other cube, much weightier (is that even a word??!!).
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    Old 11-26-06, 23:53   #13 (permalink)
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    i just just talking about how these deformaties usually dry up to hardly anything. i know pe's actually have a more weight to them after dried that most cubies. thats why i grow them all the time. texans also do not loose as much weight as many other cubes. or so i have found
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    Old 11-26-06, 23:59   #14 (permalink)
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    ^^I see, and I definitely agree.

    To the original poster, any updates?
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    Old 11-27-06, 00:58   #15 (permalink)
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    i would just give um the old swallow test & see what happens.
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    Old 11-27-06, 01:14   #16 (permalink)
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    Those are some funky looking shrooms - enjoy!
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    Old 11-27-06, 06:04   #17 (permalink)
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    well....man....where to start....FOAF and another FOAF decided to pick one of these bastards and eat it. this thing measured in at 38 grams wet and it was split two ways and ill put it this way, FOAF and other FOAF didnt know what the hell hit them...

    so i guess testing round 1 was a success
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    Old 11-27-06, 07:25   #18 (permalink)
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    Glad it worked out, those pics were freaky.
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    Old 11-27-06, 12:43   #19 (permalink)
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    Old 11-27-06, 13:05   #20 (permalink)
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    well....man....where to start....FOAF and another FOAF decided to pick one of these bastards and eat it. this thing measured in at 38 grams wet and it was split two ways and ill put it this way, FOAF and other FOAF didnt know what the hell hit them...

    so i guess testing round 1 was a success
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    Old 11-27-06, 13:13   #21 (permalink)
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    they look alot like entoloma abortivum, an aborted form of entoloma found in association with honey mushrooms in the fall. The aborted form looks like stryofoam a little bit and tastes like shrimp. In fact i prefer the aborted over the unaborted form ...heres a linklink that explains it better. and sorry your shrooms turned out all chernobyl style.

    http://www.mushroomexpert.com/entoloma_abortivum.html
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    I've seen my PF Classics get that way when I water them too much and they're not getting enough fresh air. After the pins set on cakes I don't spray or mist them at all (provided the chamber's humidity is adequate, like 99% for cakes).

    I also notice the second flush looking much more normal, and thought it might be due to the myc. in the cake releasing less CO2 because (I'm guessing) the substrate has been thoroughly colonized by then and so metabolism has slowed so the myc. can focus energy on mushroom production. In a closed FC, the excess CO2 is likely very high earlier on. Growing side-by-side with South Americans, my PF Classic grows very fat asses even in trays (while the SA's in the exact same environment look textbook normal) but they are otherwise normal looking. The same PF Classic grown out in a closed terrarium looks much more deformed and weird until the second flush. I never seem to aerate them enough when it's got to be done manually.

    And hell yeah, those mutants pack a punch!
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    Old 11-28-06, 20:03   #23 (permalink)
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    No clue what causes it, but my FOAF has seen it on cakes. Check this ugly sucker. Looks like a tumor or an alien egg or something. The inside of it had a decided brain matter look.





    Ugly...but nice and potent. And later flushes should be fine. As you can see, that cake had normal shroomies and the big glob on the same flush.

    There were no more globs in later flushes, though.
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    Tell me you ate this one fresh Buck.

    I'd have a hard time getting that one down
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    I'm sorry, have we met? Last time "gross" things I've eaten/drunk came up, people became a bit skittish...

    That sucker was digesting about 45 minutes after harvest. It was a decent bit too much, in fact.
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    that thing looks like it would have eaten you before you ate it. gnarly!
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