Full vs. Half Case

cambo666 · 03-06-07, 12:39

I have cased 6 pf cakes in verm. (They are broken up and cased in plastic trays) Half are fully cased and half have only a bottom layer. I did this to try and observe the differences after noticing some uncased cakes growing together on a pie tin. I will give updates as to how the two compare. If regular cakes dont easily infect will the broken up cakes? Also how will this effect pinning speed and flush size and yield? They were both kept in the dark for three days like a normal casing to create the same conditions.

dial8 · 03-06-07, 16:56

I'm confused. You have some that are broken up without a top casing layer?

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If regular cakes dont easily infect will the broken up cakes?

oibchip · 03-06-07, 17:12

ditto

cambo666 · 03-06-07, 17:59

I needed my verm for another project and have been wondering if a "caseing" without a top layer will pin faster. Also how likley it is to get contaminated compared to a full casing with verm barrier. I was maybe a little spaced out when I did this

joey_megabucks · 03-06-07, 18:05

in other words, you birthed the PF cakes and some of them you rolled around in verm (what you call "cased") and others you left alone (with the original verm layer that was part of the pf recipe), right?

cambo666 · 03-06-07, 18:17

No. I broke up the cakes and cased them. I put verm under the open ones to absorb the moisture like normal and left off the top layer. Mostly to try and speed pinning. You probably think I'm retarded but what the hell.

oibchip · 03-06-07, 18:19

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Originally Posted by cambo666

No. I broke up the cakes and cased them. I put verm under the open ones to absorb the moisture like normal and left off the top layer. Mostly to try and speed pinning. You probably think I'm retarded but what the hell.

I don't think that your retarded..but, I would have cased the topside of the crumbled cakes.

golly · 03-06-07, 20:44

If there is no top casing layer,be sure to keep the RH good n' high ...
With good moisture ,it should be fine..

cambo666 · 03-06-07, 21:43

I have them on perlite so no problem.

dial8 · 03-07-07, 09:38

Your not retarded. I just had a little trouble following you. Like golly said keep the rH way up for the ones without a top casing. They could dry out easily.

joey_megabucks · 03-07-07, 10:48

its ok. mentally challenged people are welcome in mycotopia as well. Thats why they keep me here.

hehe but seriously. I had problems understanding what you meant. but now, I got ya. Good luck

cambo666 · 03-07-07, 11:10

Yeah I couldnt understand it either.

chet123 · 03-07-07, 13:32

i had the same QQ i did not case it at all just a cake on prilite would this be ok or should i case the top

python · 03-07-07, 13:46

crumbled cakes in verm is not very efficient IMO

you would be better off just fruiting the cakes (roll em in verm and DE case em)

GL

chet123 · 03-07-07, 21:12

will do thanks as i have two more to go

doobydoobydoo · 03-08-07, 00:42

I like the 'experiment'.

cambo666 · 03-08-07, 10:15

Thanks Dooby. Some pins are starting in 2 of the open casings. All of the full casings are showing myc now.

03-08-07, 10:21

would love to see pics..

cambo666 · 03-08-07, 11:05

I wish I could show you some but I dont have a digital camera yet. If I take some of this wierd deformity I have on a cake I'll take some of this project. Kinkos copies!

doobydoobydoo · 03-08-07, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambo666

Thanks Dooby. Some pins are starting in 2 of the open casings. All of the full casings are showing myc now.

Makes sense, the myc saw light first with the no top casing, working its way up now through the casing on the full ones and just seeing the light. Keep the updates coming.

iduncan · 03-20-07, 01:57

I understood exactly what you said.

You are taking fully colonized PF-TEK CAKES and breaking up in a bag.

Placing the crushed cakes in a tin..
One lined with verm on the bottom &
One with verm on bottom and the top.

Think that is it ... you got pics I want to see. Keep up the good work .. ID

doobydoobydoo · 03-21-07, 22:28

Yes, how goes the project? fruits?

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03-06-07, 12:39	#1 (permalink)
cambo666 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 47	Full vs. Half Case I have cased 6 pf cakes in verm. (They are broken up and cased in plastic trays) Half are fully cased and half have only a bottom layer. I did this to try and observe the differences after noticing some uncased cakes growing together on a pie tin. I will give updates as to how the two compare. If regular cakes dont easily infect will the broken up cakes? Also how will this effect pinning speed and flush size and yield? They were both kept in the dark for three days like a normal casing to create the same conditions.

03-06-07, 18:05	#5 (permalink)
joey_megabucks Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 745	in other words, you birthed the PF cakes and some of them you rolled around in verm (what you call "cased") and others you left alone (with the original verm layer that was part of the pf recipe), right? __________________ Creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable.

03-07-07, 10:48	#11 (permalink)
joey_megabucks Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 745	its ok. mentally challenged people are welcome in mycotopia as well. Thats why they keep me here. hehe but seriously. I had problems understanding what you meant. but now, I got ya. Good luck __________________ Creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable.

03-20-07, 01:57	#21 (permalink)
iduncan Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 66	PLEASE PICS I understood exactly what you said. You are taking fully colonized PF-TEK CAKES and breaking up in a bag. Placing the crushed cakes in a tin.. One lined with verm on the bottom & One with verm on bottom and the top. Think that is it ... you got pics I want to see. Keep up the good work .. ID

03-06-07, 17:12	#3 (permalink)
oibchip Space Lord Modulator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,066	ditto

03-06-07, 17:59	#4 (permalink)
cambo666 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 47	I needed my verm for another project and have been wondering if a "caseing" without a top layer will pin faster. Also how likley it is to get contaminated compared to a full casing with verm barrier. I was maybe a little spaced out when I did this

03-06-07, 18:17	#6 (permalink)
cambo666 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 47	No. I broke up the cakes and cased them. I put verm under the open ones to absorb the moisture like normal and left off the top layer. Mostly to try and speed pinning. You probably think I'm retarded but what the hell.

03-06-07, 20:44	#8 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,670	If there is no top casing layer,be sure to keep the RH good n' high ... With good moisture ,it should be fine..

03-06-07, 21:43	#9 (permalink)
cambo666 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 47	I have them on perlite so no problem.

03-07-07, 09:38	#10 (permalink)
dial8 Un Undead ***er8tor Join Date: Jun 1976 Posts: 3,185	Your not retarded. I just had a little trouble following you. Like golly said keep the rH way up for the ones without a top casing. They could dry out easily.

03-07-07, 11:10	#12 (permalink)
cambo666 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 47	Yeah I couldnt understand it either.

03-07-07, 13:32	#13 (permalink)
chet123 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 49	i had the same QQ i did not case it at all just a cake on prilite would this be ok or should i case the top

03-07-07, 13:46	#14 (permalink)
python Virtuoso Join Date: Apr 1973 Posts: 2,652	crumbled cakes in verm is not very efficient IMO you would be better off just fruiting the cakes (roll em in verm and DE case em) GL

03-07-07, 21:12	#15 (permalink)
chet123 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 49	will do thanks as i have two more to go

03-08-07, 00:42	#16 (permalink)
doobydoobydoo Moderator Join Date: Jan 1972 Posts: 2,343	I like the 'experiment'.

03-08-07, 10:21	#18 (permalink)
~vinz Guest Posts: n/a	would love to see pics..

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03-08-07, 10:15	#17 (permalink)
cambo666 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 47	Thanks Dooby. Some pins are starting in 2 of the open casings. All of the full casings are showing myc now.

03-08-07, 11:05	#19 (permalink)
cambo666 Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 47	I wish I could show you some but I dont have a digital camera yet. If I take some of this wierd deformity I have on a cake I'll take some of this project. Kinkos copies!

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doobydoobydoo Moderator Join Date: Jan 1972 Posts: 2,343	Yes, how goes the project? fruits?

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