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    Old 03-14-07, 18:12   #1 (permalink)
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    New grower, Some concerns

    Hi everybody, this is my first grow and Im think Im doing ok.
    But I have some areas in my jar that are concerning me.
    They look like moisture spots, but Im not exactly sure.
    So Im gonna put a few pics up and see what you think.
    You can see where the Myc. stops gowing when it reaches these certain spots.

    Any comments or suggestions would be helpful!!!!!
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    Old 03-14-07, 18:26   #2 (permalink)
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    How old are these jars? So far they look fine, just young.

    You might consider several things, if time and patience aren't what you have just now. Shake the jars to redistribute the moisture and myscilium? Keep them slightly warmer? How's the air flow?
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    Old 03-14-07, 18:27   #3 (permalink)
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    I can't see much due to pic quality. The first thing I would do is get that foil off of the lid..you'll need some type of FAE for proper growth.

    What % would u say they are colonized?

    Giving the jars a good shake would redistribute the moisture.
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    Old 03-14-07, 18:48   #4 (permalink)
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    That first jar looks like there isn't enough substrate to fill it. Is there a vermiculite barrier on top?
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    Old 03-14-07, 18:49   #5 (permalink)
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    They are about a week old. And Ill try taking the foil off I guess, its on very loose.
    Ill try giving the jar a shake and see what happens. Just didn't want any contaminations falling in there.
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    Old 03-14-07, 18:52   #6 (permalink)
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    Yes Rev there is a dry barrier of verm on the top, and its a picture of the same jar, just to different views, I gave them a shake and removed the foil.

    Thanks for the info
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    Old 03-14-07, 19:35   #7 (permalink)
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    Probably not a good idea to shake that jar. That barrier needs to stay intact to do it's job, disturbing it would be a bad idea. Best to leave it alone for now and wait.

    I got my fingers crossed for ya SS!
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    Agreed, a shake on a jar that has a verm barrier is not good. I'd say, for the size of the jar (large) and time, 1 week, doing OK!

    Time and patience.
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    Old 03-14-07, 19:40   #9 (permalink)
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    Ugh! I gave it a shake before I read the other post........
    Hopefully nothing messes up.
    Thanks Rev I have mine crossed too.
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    Old 03-22-07, 14:13   #10 (permalink)
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    Starting over

    Ok, Im trying again to get past the incubation period without contams.
    This time I had a Presto PC, and did my BRF jars in the pc for an hour.
    While that was going on I cleaned my bathroom where you could eat off the toilet. Then when the fam was down I sprayed it for like 5 minutes with Lysol antibacteria spray. Closed the door and let it settle for a good while, FORBIDING my woman to go use the bathroom.
    The bathroom actually took place about when the jars were being cooled.

    So the jars were ready and so was I. Took everything carefully into the bathroom and shut the door behind me. Took my new seringe from GOOD SPORE (a sponser of Mycrotopia) And gave it a good hard shake for awhile. Them flamed the tip and let it cool for each jar, squirting the little bit out after each flaming. Inoced the jars and put in the box in my closet.

    They are in a cardboard box with a lamp on them now to keep the heat up around 80-82. Thanks fo IDuncan for his help and encouragement, I hope I will succeed this time.

    Here are some pictures of the FC I built today. Notice the tap for the view glass, will be replaced by silicone tonight.

    So if I get to birth without contams, Ill update later when I get about %50 colonization in the jars. I have perlite on standby for when Im ready to make the FC functional, debating on a humidifier.

    Hopefully these Acadian Coast will give me some luck.
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    Old 03-22-07, 14:37   #11 (permalink)
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    Looking good

    looking nice .. wish you luck,..,.peace ID
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    Old 03-22-07, 14:50   #12 (permalink)
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    Im in the same boat, i made 12 jars last week, and now i have 7 of them with Cobweb and Trich.. Son of a ... Jars are the hardest part im finding. Getting the water content just right.. and every thing else just perfect.

    Wish you luck man, sending good vibes. Do the same for my jars
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    Good luck to the both of you.

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    Old 03-22-07, 16:17   #14 (permalink)
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    Old 03-22-07, 16:51   #15 (permalink)
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    a must for me. I use to use the bathroom too.
    Cleaning and cleaning, wiping everything off with alcohol, wearing enough gear that I could jump in anthrax and come out with no illness. And you know, my contam rate(with syringes that were bought, I wouldn't think of even trying prints in open air) was still like 60/40. Once I got tired of contams, I bought a
    cheap GB and BAM. Contam rate now is about....well I don't quite know, I haven't had a contam since...knock on wood...
    Good luck with those jars.
    Did you have an inoculation hole, or did you lift the lids? What was/is you method when doing that?
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    Old 03-22-07, 18:42   #16 (permalink)
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    Quote:
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    Did you have an inoculation hole, or did you lift the lids? What was/is you method when doing that?

    I had premade holes in the lids for the syringe to go into. Followed the teks I have read pretty much to the tee this last time around.

    Thanks everyone for the support
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    Old 03-25-07, 00:53   #17 (permalink)
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    Messed up jars

    Just wanted to post some of the pics I had that I thought I had deleted, Showing some of the failed trys.

    But from the recent help from the great people here I hope to succeed this time!
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    Old 03-25-07, 01:14   #18 (permalink)
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    Well those pics aint the best. I suppose you have taken the lighter growth beneath the thicker to be the contaminant?
    Like CM said a cheap gb goes a long ways. But really all you are looking for is still air. If you have premade syringes working without a gb should be just fine. How are you flaming? Are you getting the needle red hot? Red hot or for 30 seconds is what you should shoot for when flaming.
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    Well the two with the small spots were after I pced them again, so alot was killed, but I still saw the green spots in there, the middle one had BAD moisture problems at the bottom.



    Here is a print of a cube I found on the southern east coast. It was in a field and they were lovely. Im sure this print is prolly contamed to hell, but I guess it could be worth a shot.
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    Old 04-02-07, 18:02   #20 (permalink)
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    Wink Update on First grow

    Ok well I didn't feel like searching back for my thread so I decided to make a new one. These are are my like third and fourth attempt at trying.With some advice I bought a pc and the results have been great. These were innoculated with some Acadian Coast. The small ones on the bottom right are the older ones which are moving along nicely, the bigger ones and one small one are the ones I did a while afterwards for backup.
    But they are all coming along nicely with no contams!

    So hopefully in about a week I will be birthing the four small ones into my tertarrium.
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    Nice job SS. Keep up the good work and let us know
    how they progress
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    BTW just click on Quick Links > My Profile > then click, "Find all threads started by Southern Shroomer.
    Unless your Hippie, you shouldn't have a hard time finding any of your old threads. Thats just a fyi, No biggie.

    Good luck and keep us posted
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    Thanks guys hopefully Ill have some nice full jars next week to show you.
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    i merged your threads into 1.
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    Old 04-11-07, 19:54   #26 (permalink)
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    Update

    Well another week or so into this grow and I have a little update that I thought I would share. Here are some pics of what I have going now. The LC picture sucks I know but I tried, you can see some blobs at the bottom but I don't know if its Myc or not. Looks like spiderwebs to me!
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    Old 04-11-07, 22:37   #27 (permalink)
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    looking good.

    lots of variety

    I like the jeweled jars.

    What are you gonna do with em ?
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    Old 04-12-07, 20:24   #28 (permalink)
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    I have no idea Floppy, any ideas?

    Ideas anyone?
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    Old 04-12-07, 21:09   #29 (permalink)
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    i would make up some sub using some kind of poo/verm/coir mix. Then I'd crumble the jars into that sub, wait for it to colonize, case it, lots of fresh air exchange and good humidity, if it's all one strain I'd make one big tub. hiwever, lots of different small projects can be cool as well. So far so good SS
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    Old 04-13-07, 00:14   #30 (permalink)
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    Well I don't have any poo as of yet, unless this weekend I can afford to order some. Plan on trying some donkey doo if I do. If I decided to make a big tibe, how big would that be? And could I just use Coir/verm?
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    IME poo is the easiest way to hold off trich. coir/verm only usually gives me slow growth and green, if i had a grow it would be dirty and filthy. THe only way to hold it back is lots of spawn and at least 1 gallon ziploc of dehydrated poo. per 2 blocks coir, 6.9 cups of verm

    Go get a couple cow flops break em up and cook em in your oven 170 degrees, or heat em in a zuiploc in water for a few hours , shred em first.

    There are rez teks and cake grows that I have tried and they always seem to take up lots of space I don't have and ussually go green, I didn't want to work with poo. Hell I saw one guy use penut shells (anyone tried this-- peanut shells) as a bulk sub. Cubes are like a goat.

    You could also go to a good garden supply store and get a bag of dehydrated, organic, composted, non-burning, cow poo
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