Psilocybe hoogshagenii var. convexa (P. semperviva)

the_chosen_one · 04-27-08, 22:57

here's a few of my first semperviva pins..

spore samples courtesy of Workman.

germinated and isolated on agar. liquid cultured to pf substrate, using hulled millet instead of brf. cased with 30% cactus mix, 30% peat, 40% verm.

the environment is pretty much the same as i use for cubies and pans.

these things are very slow growers.. it's taken almost a week just to get to this point.

i'll be adding more as they grow. hope no one is in a hurry

much love!

* just found two more little pins! will update soon.

Workman · 04-27-08, 23:31

Excellent! I believe this is the very first growlog of this species from that revived batch of spores. It looks pretty good so far. These things are like growing a cactus, slow and steady and it helps not to look at them every day.

koldjgdaro · 04-28-08, 00:34

Oh, sweeeet!! Can't wait to see them mature

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Good Luck!

the jesus · 04-28-08, 00:40

Excellent stuff TCO

kocos · 04-28-08, 03:28

Very pretty mushrooms! Let us see them mature

al-cabar · 04-28-08, 05:20

Great job TCO.

pcsillypj · 04-28-08, 12:22

great job with the patiernce and the grow tco....
patience is a virtue...

Godflesh · 04-28-08, 12:24

Super!

the_chosen_one · 04-28-08, 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workman

Excellent! I believe this is the very first growlog of this species from that revived batch of spores. It looks pretty good so far. These things are like growing a cactus, slow and steady and it helps not to look at them every day.

lol, how true! i watched an empty casing for over a month! it quickly overlaid for a few days and then died back. a month or so later here we are

wish i would have kept better track of the dates

update - the cap on the bigger one is begining to open! the next pin is sllllooowwwly getting bigger.. as well as the two new pins. hopefully i can post more pics in the next day or two.

question for Workman - these seem as if they will be a light spore depositor..

will i be able to see them on the stem etc. when they begin to drop? any hints?

thanks again everyone!!!

much love!

waylitjim · 04-28-08, 16:19

Very nice work

Way to help out an endangered species!

the_chosen_one · 04-28-08, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by waylitjim

Very nice work

Way to help out an endangered species!

won't be endangered by the time we get done with it!

rockawayrooms · 04-28-08, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_chosen_one

won't be endangered by the time we get done with it!

I bet it wont!

Hippie3 · 04-28-08, 18:11

dpwishy · 04-28-08, 19:03

You never seem to disappoint,
beautiful work once again tco

shroom_seeker · 04-28-08, 20:20

Bodacious!

Titus · 04-28-08, 20:30

That's ultra cool.
I bet it's worth the wait.

Freaky · 04-28-08, 21:33

nice job Chosen One

barngoddess · 04-28-08, 21:34

Of Course!

And getting the nod from Workman . . . priceless!

omentheduck · 04-28-08, 22:10

very nice pics, whats the deal with'em? Are they work the wait?

the_chosen_one · 04-29-08, 01:41

i think they are

i'll be taking pics of the casing again tomorrow. the large one is much larger now and the convex cap has opened perpendicular to the stem. still no sign of spores.

however, i'm not so lazy i couldn't get a few pics of this

an unexpected treat! this contamned jar was destined for an outdoor attempt.. but when i picked it up i found that it was way ahead of me lol.

ladies and gentlemen...

semperviva el invitro

barngoddess · 04-29-08, 01:49

Double bragging rights! They are lovely!

omentheduck · 04-29-08, 04:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_chosen_one

i think they are

I can dig it, if you can dig it! can't wait to see the next update!

Mermaidia · 04-29-08, 08:59

Well done TCO

...any more updates on the casing? pics?

Workman · 04-29-08, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_chosen_one

question for Workman - these seem as if they will be a light spore depositor..
will i be able to see them on the stem etc. when they begin to drop? any hints?
thanks again everyone!!!
much love!

Spore depositing is variable and over a long span of time. You can definately get darker prints than you might expect. You should see spores depositing on the stem before you attempt to print. You should notice the gills slowly darkening as the spores get riper. If you catch it at the right time, you will get a dark print. But the first flush may not print as well as later flushes. Good luck!

This strain is very forgiving if given enough time. Very contaminate resistant and fruits in less than ideal growing conditions. But it is damn slow.

I don't think this species is actually endangered in the wild, just not commonly collected for research.

TastyBeverage · 04-29-08, 13:52

Great job, TCO! It doesn't look like you've been able to sample them yet, but any word on potency? Comparable to pans at all?

the_chosen_one · 04-29-08, 15:15

http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-m...iva-lives.html (Semperviva Lives!!!)

http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/...a-p-16360.html

thanks Workman! i figured as much. the prints you sent me were pretty nice.

....

and contamn resistant they are! the invitro fruits in the cluster are fruiting right on the edge of the mold contamination. lol, flippin' it the bird.
too bad though.. i'd love to clone from that cluster. maybe i'll try anyways. semper seems pretty defiant.. perhaps some hot agar pours etc

Merm - tonight

Bev - not yet. hoping to find out soon though

i bet they are quite good!

check out the bruising on the large invitro pin that is alone. it's as green irl as it looks in the pic. they don't bruise very heavily once harvested either.. they are very tough and dense.

ok, more to come!

much love!

golly · 04-29-08, 16:26

Excellent project TC..

...A clone could be well worth the effort...

Workman · 04-29-08, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_chosen_one

contamn resistant they are! the invitro fruits in the cluster are fruiting right on the edge of the mold contamination. lol, flippin' it the bird.

Hmmm fruiting right on the edge of the mold contamination seems familiar somehow.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...-2-reduced.jpg

the_chosen_one · 04-29-08, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workman

Hmmm fruiting right on the edge of the mold contamination seems familiar somehow.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...-2-reduced.jpg

any theories as to what would cause this? gases from the mold? simply running out of good substrate?

i would have never figured semper to be an invitro fruiter. although, i should have guessed when the first jar to produce side pinned and dug downwards. there were also a few pins forming further down, but i didn't consider these invitro because it was a cased jar.

the_chosen_one · 04-30-08, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mermaidia

Well done TCO

...any more updates on the casing? pics?

as promised.

they kinda speak for themselves..

so i'm going to just sit here and stare

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04-27-08, 22:57	#1 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,159	Psilocybe hoogshagenii var. convexa (P. semperviva) here's a few of my first semperviva pins.. spore samples courtesy of Workman. germinated and isolated on agar. liquid cultured to pf substrate, using hulled millet instead of brf. cased with 30% cactus mix, 30% peat, 40% verm. the environment is pretty much the same as i use for cubies and pans. these things are very slow growers.. it's taken almost a week just to get to this point. i'll be adding more as they grow. hope no one is in a hurry much love! * just found two more little pins! will update soon. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

04-27-08, 23:31	#2 (permalink)
Workman Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 578	Excellent! I believe this is the very first growlog of this species from that revived batch of spores. It looks pretty good so far. These things are like growing a cactus, slow and steady and it helps not to look at them every day. __________________ I can't believe I get paid for this. Founder of Sporeworks.com 1998 Workman's Mycotopia Gallery

04-28-08, 00:34	#3 (permalink)
koldjgdaro Psychonaut Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 532	Oh, sweeeet!! Can't wait to see them mature . Good Luck! __________________ To fathom Hell or soar angelic, just take a pinch of psychedelic

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04-28-08, 03:28	#5 (permalink)
kocos Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 849	Very pretty mushrooms! Let us see them mature

04-28-08, 05:20	#6 (permalink)
al-cabar Mycophage Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 123	Great job TCO.

04-28-08, 12:22	#7 (permalink)
pcsillypj old schooler Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 173	great job with the patiernce and the grow tco.... patience is a virtue...

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04-28-08, 20:30	#16 (permalink)
Titus Former Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 80	That's ultra cool. I bet it's worth the wait.

04-28-08, 21:33	#17 (permalink)
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04-28-08, 21:34	#18 (permalink)
barngoddess Sage-ish Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 39	Outstanding! Of Course! And getting the nod from Workman . . . priceless! __________________ Well-behaved women rarely make history

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omentheduck YoUsEeNOthiNg Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 639	very nice pics, whats the deal with'em? Are they work the wait? __________________ "I look, therefor I see. I try, therefor I will. I embrace, therefor I'm embraced. I believe, therefor I am!" omentheduck

04-29-08, 01:41	#20 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,159	i think they are i'll be taking pics of the casing again tomorrow. the large one is much larger now and the convex cap has opened perpendicular to the stem. still no sign of spores. however, i'm not so lazy i couldn't get a few pics of this an unexpected treat! this contamned jar was destined for an outdoor attempt.. but when i picked it up i found that it was way ahead of me lol. ladies and gentlemen... semperviva el invitro Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman Last edited by the_chosen_one : 04-29-08 at 02:33. Reason: cheesy.. thanks again everyone! much love!

04-29-08, 01:49	#21 (permalink)
barngoddess Sage-ish Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 39	BRILLIANT! Double bragging rights! They are lovely! __________________ Well-behaved women rarely make history

04-29-08, 08:59	#23 (permalink)
Mermaidia Sober Sister Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,020	Well done TCO ...any more updates on the casing? pics? __________________ Don't let your gift take you somewhere your character can not keep you.

04-29-08, 13:52	#25 (permalink)
TastyBeverage Fending off Dingos Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 964	Great job, TCO! It doesn't look like you've been able to sample them yet, but any word on potency? Comparable to pans at all? __________________ Why do little blue men hit me with fish?

04-29-08, 15:15	#26 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,159	a little more history.. http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-m...iva-lives.html (Semperviva Lives!!!) http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/...a-p-16360.html thanks Workman! i figured as much. the prints you sent me were pretty nice. .... and contamn resistant they are! the invitro fruits in the cluster are fruiting right on the edge of the mold contamination. lol, flippin' it the bird. too bad though.. i'd love to clone from that cluster. maybe i'll try anyways. semper seems pretty defiant.. perhaps some hot agar pours etc Merm - tonight Bev - not yet. hoping to find out soon though i bet they are quite good! check out the bruising on the large invitro pin that is alone. it's as green irl as it looks in the pic. they don't bruise very heavily once harvested either.. they are very tough and dense. ok, more to come! much love! __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

04-29-08, 16:26	#27 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,625	Excellent project TC.....A clone could be well worth the effort...