Forced fruiting experiment for P. Ovoids...

golly · 05-30-08, 19:29

After seeing Shobi's Azures fruiting out of season , i thought i would try manipulating my outdoor Ovoid patch to fruit again this year..

I collected about half of one patch and filled a kitty litter box with well colo'd chips..
Added some shredded mulch to fill gaps and to cover..

I started digging before i realized that a third flush was beginning

The plan is to leave the tray outside for another month to allow the myc to
re-knit , while feeding a very mild nutrient solution...
Then move the tray to the fridge, then freezer for a few weeks..

The tray will then be encouraged to fruit in a cool room..

This patch which was created from stembutts, did give about 70g dry but feel it could have done better - this maybe an oportunity to maximize it's potential , with any luck...

oibchip · 05-30-08, 19:37

Good Luck Golly!

the_chosen_one · 05-30-08, 19:38

i was thinking about something similar for the same reason haha!

i have three tubs of azures destined for outdoor beds.. but maybe i'll do this with one also.

good luck!

SharkieJones · 05-30-08, 20:29

Can't wait to see.

golly · 05-30-08, 22:52

Thanx...
Ideally the best time for a second fruiting would be when outdoor temps have fallen back into the 50-60F range [for Ovoids] which means Oct/Nov here...

Don't want to wait that long, so i'll use an air conditioned room and hope it's cool enough...If nothing kicks, then it's back to the fridge untill Fall..

Godflesh · 05-31-08, 10:17

Good vibes!

Hippie3 · 05-31-08, 10:44

g'luck.

twoguysupnorth · 05-31-08, 19:47

yeah, good luck. i set aside one smaller container to try that with. it isnt colonized yet though. they are coming along. one of the trays smelled like bacteria but i think i might have saved it buy putting a fan on it(i hope). it smells like mushys again.

mycobri · 05-31-08, 19:57

Great idea

Hoping to see some more Ovoid fruits this Fall

Lazlo · 05-31-08, 20:34

Since your's was beginning another break, there may be some hope for mine yet. Rhizos everywhere dying to fruit. Hopefully the night temperatures will be good enough to trigger fruiting.

Good luck with that.

pqrs612 · 06-24-08, 11:13

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twoguysupnorth · 06-24-08, 11:24

somebody wont be here for long!

golly · 06-24-08, 14:06

I'm ready to move the tray to the fridge now as it's all knitted together ..
Thinking 1 week there, then move to the deep freeze..
Been debating whether to cover completely or leave some breather vents..Think i will put some in...
Twoguys , did your tray recover..?

twoguysupnorth · 06-24-08, 14:29

i just picked up some compost and ready to case it today. mine wasnt from an existing bed, wbs to woodchips. one little bin to try in the freezer and 2 larger ones are ready to go outdoors. i will probably do it today.

twoguysupnorth · 06-27-08, 17:21

i hope you dont mind golly. i placed the shoebox sized tray in the freezer with 1" compost on top. i am not sure for how long, when i remember it in a week or two probably i will take it out and water it then put it in the fridge. here is a pic of the beginning of my outdoor bed. after the pic i added some compost, small twigs and branches of applewood and a layer of hardwood leaf (1/2 composted). i need to go get another bag of the mulch to top it off and some more leaves i think. the bed is 3' x 8'.

twoguysupnorth · 06-27-08, 17:22

sorry forgot pic,lol.

it is being watered from an artesian well type spring.

psylence · 06-27-08, 20:57

Very cool golly, I an very interested in seeing how this goes.

golly · 06-27-08, 22:59

Thnx Psy...
That's quite a bed there TG..i reckon they'll b happy with that...

Hippie3 · 06-27-08, 23:01

nice.

twoguysupnorth · 06-28-08, 02:28

those two bins made alot more than i thought they would. hopefully in the spring, i have mushrooms coming out my ears, lol. we will see.

eastwood · 06-28-08, 03:06

Good luck..

golly · 10-04-08, 13:24

I took the P.Ovoid tray back out of the fridge after about 2 months of chillin..

Tray has been sitting under a tree for about 10 days and now showing signs of life
around the edges -pin dance..

They're a bit tiny right now but will get a pic in a day or two..
Temps have been 50-70F which is close to their normal springtime fruiting temp..

waylitjim · 10-04-08, 13:36

Did you put the tray in the freezer too, or just use the fridge?
Cool experiment Golly, glad to hear it worked!

golly · 10-04-08, 13:42

Thnx Jim...It never went to the freezer...

limeade · 10-04-08, 13:50

wow this is interesting!

I've wondered if this would work with Azures never thought about P. oviod

spacecake · 10-04-08, 14:00

Well done Golly !

Can't wait to see those pictures...!

golly · 10-04-08, 18:14

Cool...
So what would be the procedure with azure/cyan..? I guess u would bring them inside after fruiting ,so they can continue to Colo at room temp, then set them out in early spring to fruit b4 temps warm too much...

Now would be a good time to start a cyan tray which could be ready to go outside by March...Hmmm -mebbe i try dat...

twoguysupnorth · 10-04-08, 23:45

i hope yours do well. my quickie one didnt work. you were much more patient,lol.

golly · 10-05-08, 14:08

Here's the newest pins ,about 11 so far..
Squirrels have been messing with 'em..

Gonna need a lot more pinnage to call this a success but it's interesting non the less...

spacecake · 10-05-08, 14:16

Nice !...

Aren't the squirrels affected from the Psilocybin ?

golly · 10-08-08, 14:03

The squirrels are mostly looking for places to bury their walnuts..

Turns out ,there is a lot of side pinning as some light is penetrating the tub walls..
So i flipped it out to harvest and will let it remain as a cake for any further fruiting..There were some really dense masses ,although not too pretty..

At this point , i think the test was worthwhile,especially since new pins are still forming..We def fooled 'em into flushing out of season...

So the plan now ,is to wait for another flush ,then let the myc recover for a month at room temp..
After that ,i'll set the tray out for their natural winter chill , so they can fruit again in April..

spacecake · 10-08-08, 14:47

Are you gonne try someting next time,to prevent side pinning Golly?

hyphaenation · 10-08-08, 16:29

What were the temps like during this forced-fruiting ? Many of us have greenhouses that could be heated to a certain temp during winter.

Great job BTW.

golly · 10-08-08, 17:24

Temps primarily 50s - 60s..I can't eliminate the crack around the edges ,so i think i'll flip
it out as a cake to begin fruiting next time and have the tray cover it loosely, to hold moisture..Mebbe elevate a half inch for air flow around the cake...

eatyualive · 10-09-08, 09:49

nice work golly! i know side growth is sometimes not welcomed but to me, that looks great. and a few more runs and you will have that strain down! you could lay down a black plastic bag in the tub before hand when you spawn.

Myc · 10-09-08, 21:00

Nice work!
Thanks Golly. This gives me great optimism for my efforts.

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05-30-08, 19:29	#1 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	Forced fruiting experiment for P. Ovoids... After seeing Shobi's Azures fruiting out of season , i thought i would try manipulating my outdoor Ovoid patch to fruit again this year.. I collected about half of one patch and filled a kitty litter box with well colo'd chips.. Added some shredded mulch to fill gaps and to cover.. I started digging before i realized that a third flush was beginning The plan is to leave the tray outside for another month to allow the myc to re-knit , while feeding a very mild nutrient solution... Then move the tray to the fridge, then freezer for a few weeks.. The tray will then be encouraged to fruit in a cool room.. This patch which was created from stembutts, did give about 70g dry but feel it could have done better - this maybe an oportunity to maximize it's potential , with any luck... Attached Thumbnails

05-30-08, 19:37	#2 (permalink)
oibchip Space Lord Modulator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,016	Good Luck Golly! __________________ Please standby while I find a decent quote for my sig

05-30-08, 19:38	#3 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,159	i was thinking about something similar for the same reason haha! i have three tubs of azures destined for outdoor beds.. but maybe i'll do this with one also. good luck! __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

05-30-08, 20:29	#4 (permalink)
SharkieJones Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,893	Can't wait to see. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVy5XHjuGI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMXdc0JNS4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JdhiWmz0BE

05-30-08, 22:52	#5 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	Thanx... Ideally the best time for a second fruiting would be when outdoor temps have fallen back into the 50-60F range [for Ovoids] which means Oct/Nov here... Don't want to wait that long, so i'll use an air conditioned room and hope it's cool enough...If nothing kicks, then it's back to the fridge untill Fall..

05-31-08, 10:17	#6 (permalink)
Godflesh Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 604	Good vibes! __________________ Eye am Why am Eye

05-31-08, 10:44	#7 (permalink)
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05-31-08, 19:47	#8 (permalink)
twoguysupnorth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,567	yeah, good luck. i set aside one smaller container to try that with. it isnt colonized yet though. they are coming along. one of the trays smelled like bacteria but i think i might have saved it buy putting a fan on it(i hope). it smells like mushys again.

05-31-08, 19:57	#9 (permalink)
mycobri Stained Blue Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,435	Great idea Hoping to see some more Ovoid fruits this Fall

05-31-08, 20:34	#10 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,038	Since your's was beginning another break, there may be some hope for mine yet. Rhizos everywhere dying to fruit. Hopefully the night temperatures will be good enough to trigger fruiting. Good luck with that. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

06-24-08, 11:13	#11 (permalink)
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06-24-08, 11:24	#12 (permalink)
twoguysupnorth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,567	somebody wont be here for long!

06-24-08, 14:06	#13 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	I'm ready to move the tray to the fridge now as it's all knitted together .. Thinking 1 week there, then move to the deep freeze.. Been debating whether to cover completely or leave some breather vents..Think i will put some in... Twoguys , did your tray recover..?

06-24-08, 14:29	#14 (permalink)
twoguysupnorth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,567	i just picked up some compost and ready to case it today. mine wasnt from an existing bed, wbs to woodchips. one little bin to try in the freezer and 2 larger ones are ready to go outdoors. i will probably do it today.

06-28-08, 03:06	#21 (permalink)
eastwood Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 1972 Posts: 1,811	Good luck..

06-27-08, 17:21	#15 (permalink)
twoguysupnorth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,567	i hope you dont mind golly. i placed the shoebox sized tray in the freezer with 1" compost on top. i am not sure for how long, when i remember it in a week or two probably i will take it out and water it then put it in the fridge. here is a pic of the beginning of my outdoor bed. after the pic i added some compost, small twigs and branches of applewood and a layer of hardwood leaf (1/2 composted). i need to go get another bag of the mulch to top it off and some more leaves i think. the bed is 3' x 8'.

06-27-08, 17:22	#16 (permalink)
twoguysupnorth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,567	sorry forgot pic,lol. it is being watered from an artesian well type spring.

06-27-08, 20:57	#17 (permalink)
psylence Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 296	Very cool golly, I an very interested in seeing how this goes.

06-27-08, 22:59	#18 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	Thnx Psy... That's quite a bed there TG..i reckon they'll b happy with that...

06-27-08, 23:01	#19 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,123	nice. __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

06-28-08, 02:28	#20 (permalink)
twoguysupnorth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,567	those two bins made alot more than i thought they would. hopefully in the spring, i have mushrooms coming out my ears, lol. we will see.

10-04-08, 13:24	#22 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	I took the P.Ovoid tray back out of the fridge after about 2 months of chillin.. Tray has been sitting under a tree for about 10 days and now showing signs of life around the edges -pin dance.. They're a bit tiny right now but will get a pic in a day or two.. Temps have been 50-70F which is close to their normal springtime fruiting temp..

10-04-08, 13:36	#23 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,928	Did you put the tray in the freezer too, or just use the fridge? Cool experiment Golly, glad to hear it worked! __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

10-04-08, 13:42	#24 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	Thnx Jim...It never went to the freezer...

10-04-08, 13:50	#25 (permalink)
limeade Former Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,185	wow this is interesting! I've wondered if this would work with Azures never thought about P. oviod

10-04-08, 14:00	#26 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,762	Well done Golly ! Can't wait to see those pictures...! __________________ Neurologic

10-04-08, 18:14	#27 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	Cool... So what would be the procedure with azure/cyan..? I guess u would bring them inside after fruiting ,so they can continue to Colo at room temp, then set them out in early spring to fruit b4 temps warm too much... Now would be a good time to start a cyan tray which could be ready to go outside by March...Hmmm -mebbe i try dat...

10-04-08, 23:45	#28 (permalink)
twoguysupnorth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,567	i hope yours do well. my quickie one didnt work. you were much more patient,lol.

10-05-08, 14:08	#29 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	Here's the newest pins ,about 11 so far.. Squirrels have been messing with 'em.. Gonna need a lot more pinnage to call this a success but it's interesting non the less... Attached Thumbnails

10-05-08, 14:16	#30 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,762	Nice !... Aren't the squirrels affected from the Psilocybin ? __________________ Neurologic

10-08-08, 14:03	#31 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	The squirrels are mostly looking for places to bury their walnuts.. Turns out ,there is a lot of side pinning as some light is penetrating the tub walls.. So i flipped it out to harvest and will let it remain as a cake for any further fruiting..There were some really dense masses ,although not too pretty.. At this point , i think the test was worthwhile,especially since new pins are still forming..We def fooled 'em into flushing out of season... So the plan now ,is to wait for another flush ,then let the myc recover for a month at room temp.. After that ,i'll set the tray out for their natural winter chill , so they can fruit again in April.. Attached Thumbnails

10-08-08, 14:47	#32 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,762	Are you gonne try someting next time,to prevent side pinning Golly? __________________ Neurologic

10-08-08, 16:29	#33 (permalink)
hyphaenation Moss Walker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,044	What were the temps like during this forced-fruiting ? Many of us have greenhouses that could be heated to a certain temp during winter. Great job BTW. __________________ [10:52 am] Beastmaster: thats a waste of good drugs if all you're gonna do is hide in bed afraid of shadows

10-08-08, 17:24	#34 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,626	Temps primarily 50s - 60s..I can't eliminate the crack around the edges ,so i think i'll flip it out as a cake to begin fruiting next time and have the tray cover it loosely, to hold moisture..Mebbe elevate a half inch for air flow around the cake...

10-09-08, 09:49	#35 (permalink)
eatyualive LookIntoYourMind Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,716	nice work golly! i know side growth is sometimes not welcomed but to me, that looks great. and a few more runs and you will have that strain down! you could lay down a black plastic bag in the tub before hand when you spawn. __________________ Simplicity Rules! Anything this user posts is not reality. It is an illusion. Optical lenses are quite impressive these days.