Woodlovers 08"

waylitjim · 06-10-08, 14:19

Getting ready for the Fall woodlover season. I was happy to find a huge pile of woodchips at the local dog park.
I brought a bunch home to my awaiting azure and friscosa spawn. Here's the method I used.

4 Jars of popcorn spawn.

Preferred woodchips (nice and small)

Pressure cooked filter patch bags. (One jar per bag)

A peek inside one of the bags.

waylitjim · 06-10-08, 14:20

Finished azure block

Place the block in a tub, and cover with woodchips.

Photos from a couple weeks later...

Mmm... hungry mycelium!

A touch of trich...but no problem.

Almost fully colonized.

Mermaidia · 06-10-08, 14:26

oohhh waylit i'm so excited to see this grow.

The mycelium in the bag looks fantastic!

hyphaenation · 06-10-08, 14:28

A Waylitjim thread is on-par with the best Christmas present you ever got.

waylitjim · 06-10-08, 14:29

Part III will take another week or two.

the_chosen_one · 06-10-08, 15:23

dice4717 · 06-10-08, 15:30

Wow man thats awesome, looks beautiful.

camMyco · 06-10-08, 15:46

Love some waylit woodlovers threads!

spacecake · 06-10-08, 16:01

Looks like the mycelium is grabbing that woodstick !

Great pics as always Waylitjim...

eatyualive · 06-10-08, 16:55

cool pics waylit!

shroom_seeker · 06-10-08, 17:04

Yess!

CoyoteMesc · 06-10-08, 17:32

From the pictures you posted it appears that you like to keep the spawn 'together'? Looks like you poured the corn in a concentrated area and the colonized wooded block wasn't broken up?

Do you think that leaving the mycel like that speeds things up?

waylitjim · 06-10-08, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoyoteMesc

From the pictures you posted it appears that you like to keep the spawn 'together'? Looks like you poured the corn in a concentrated area and the colonized wooded block wasn't broken up? Do you think that leaving the mycel like that speeds things up?

Exactly CM. I didn't break up the corn or the wood blocks. From my experience, the overall colonization speed increases since there's no recovery time. There's just a core mycelium nucleus which expands outward at great speed. I remember Workman referring to this as the island effect.

Myc · 06-10-08, 18:23

Nice project Waylit! (even thought you've beat me to the punch)

Of course, all of the ideas I have about woodlovers were borrowed from your experiments.

Did you supplement the woodchip bags?
My plan is to try 10% and 20% supplementation with wheat bran.
Then, as your thread suggests, use the colonized block as a "starter block" (pun intended......mycelium running) for an outdoor colony.
This idea based upon some comments by Workman regarding the "island effect" and spawning or expanding outdoor beds. Paraphrased, it seems that a large mycelial colony is stronger and more aggressive than one which has been broken up and mixed with substrate.

edit: I just saw where you credited Workman with the idea.

Nice to see my idea will work.

bugs · 06-10-08, 18:29

Way cool, Waylit.

Thanks again for the inspiration.

waylitjim · 06-10-08, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myc

Did you supplement the woodchip bags?
My plan is to try 10% and 20% supplementation with wheat bran.

That should work well Myc. I used some bran in these bags as well.
It can boost colonization, but it also increases the risk of contamination.
I've done it both ways, with and without. Either way will work.

These are the tubs I'm using. They have a hole in the lid covered with a tyvek patch.

Freaky · 06-10-08, 18:41

All Hail Waylit Woodlover's 08!!!!!!

Do you ever find the bags of woodchips dries out before full colonization from the initial popcorn spawning?

Also, I notice you use Alder Chips - those must be available only in certain geographic regions. In my area, all that is usually available is Hickory chips or Oak chips in the stores. Both of which won't do too well with magic woodloving species. So I guess a chipper might have to be a piece of equipment to look into purchasing.

Thanks for treating us to a WaylitJim woodlover extravaganza!!!!!!!

CoyoteMesc · 06-10-08, 18:45

Sportsman's Warehouse.

Alder chips are great for smoking fish.

Hippie3 · 06-10-08, 19:58

feralronin · 06-11-08, 12:18

Waylit you never cease to amaze me with your grows. I hope this one turns out well.

Godflesh · 06-11-08, 12:51

Nice to see yoou keepin busy Lit!
Just wondered what you mixed in with your bulk chips? Just dirty or did you add the dirt for a purpose?

waylitjim · 06-11-08, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godflesh

Just wondered what you mixed in with your bulk chips? Just dirty or did you add the dirt for a purpose?

Absolutely nothing. The bulk woodchips used to fill the tubs are all natural, collected from the wild. They're a lovely mixture of various hardwoods and humus. (composted organic matter) To prepare the chips, I bring water to a rapid boil, then turn the stove off and let the chips steep for an hour. After they cool they're ready to go, so far I haven't had any contamination. http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...8-dscn4072.jpg

mycobri · 06-11-08, 17:37

truly inspirational work

Thanks Waylit

Godflesh · 06-11-08, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by waylitjim

Absolutely nothing. The bulk woodchips used to fill the tubs are all natural, collected from the wild. They're a lovely mixture of various hardwoods and humus. (composted organic matter) To prepare the chips, I bring water to a rapid boil, then turn the stove off and let the chips steep for an hour. After they cool they're ready to go, so far I haven't had any contamination. http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...8-dscn4072.jpg

Lookin good!

waylitjim · 06-11-08, 21:37

I'm working with three species this season. All the tubs look alike.
P. cyanofriscosa picture one (new species or cyanescens subspecies from the SF Bay Area)
P. subaeruginascens (Japanese Ringed Psilocybe) - New to North America. (Found in the Bay Area 2006)
P. azurescens (good ol' azures)

golly · 06-11-08, 22:50

Love the Azure pic..Have fun with those projects Jim - looking good...

nightflyer · 07-20-08, 06:15

Hello, I am a newbie on this forum from central Europe and I am working with
Ps. cyanofriscosa and Ps. "subaeruginascens" SF (the species found by auweia and waylitjim in San Francisco). I have done some tests using different agar
nutrient media. The best and fastest growth was on oat flake agar. The growth
on MEA and PDA was much more slower.
Pic: left Ps. "subaeruginascens" SF, right Ps. cyanofriscosa
OAT FLAKE AGAR:
Oat flakes 30 gr.
Agar powder 20 gr.
Water 1 L
Boil oat flakes in water for 10 min, strain through a sieve, fill up to 1L and add
agar, adjust pH to 4,5, autoclave at 121 C for 20 min. Shake before pouring.

waylitjim · 07-20-08, 11:35

Good tip on the Oat Flakes Nightflyer. Glad to see you have healthy cultures started!

Santiago · 07-20-08, 12:48

waylitjim, is the P. subaeruginascens fruited out completely indoors? What are the growing parameters, if so? How is the trip compared to cubes, pans, and azures?

waylitjim · 07-21-08, 13:03

Quote:

waylitjim, is the P. subaeruginascens fruited out completely indoors? What are the growing parameters, if so? How is the trip compared to cubes, pans, and azures?

The vase was left in an outdoor shed to fruit. Growth parameters and potency are very similar to Psilocybe cyanescens & azurescens.

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06-10-08, 14:19	#1 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,853	Woodlovers 08" Getting ready for the Fall woodlover season. I was happy to find a huge pile of woodchips at the local dog park. I brought a bunch home to my awaiting azure and friscosa spawn. Here's the method I used. 4 Jars of popcorn spawn. Preferred woodchips (nice and small) Pressure cooked filter patch bags. (One jar per bag) A peek inside one of the bags. Attached Thumbnails __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

06-10-08, 14:20	#2 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,853	Part II Finished azure block Place the block in a tub, and cover with woodchips. Photos from a couple weeks later... Mmm... hungry mycelium! A touch of trich...but no problem. Almost fully colonized. Attached Thumbnails __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

06-10-08, 14:26	#3 (permalink)
Mermaidia Sober Sister Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,689	oohhh waylit i'm so excited to see this grow. The mycelium in the bag looks fantastic! __________________ “The important thing is this: To be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become.”--Charles Dubois

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06-10-08, 14:29	#5 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,853	Part III Part III will take another week or two. __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

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06-10-08, 16:01	#9 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,623	Looks like the mycelium is grabbing that woodstick ! Great pics as always Waylitjim... __________________ Neurologic

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CoyoteMesc KEY MASTER Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,191	From the pictures you posted it appears that you like to keep the spawn 'together'? Looks like you poured the corn in a concentrated area and the colonized wooded block wasn't broken up? Do you think that leaving the mycel like that speeds things up? __________________ "well, since you asked so very fuckin' nicely, sure!" ~H3

06-10-08, 18:23	#14 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,158	Nice project Waylit! (even thought you've beat me to the punch) Of course, all of the ideas I have about woodlovers were borrowed from your experiments. Did you supplement the woodchip bags? My plan is to try 10% and 20% supplementation with wheat bran. Then, as your thread suggests, use the colonized block as a "starter block" (pun intended......mycelium running) for an outdoor colony. This idea based upon some comments by Workman regarding the "island effect" and spawning or expanding outdoor beds. Paraphrased, it seems that a large mycelial colony is stronger and more aggressive than one which has been broken up and mixed with substrate. edit: I just saw where you credited Workman with the idea. Nice to see my idea will work.

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06-10-08, 18:41	#17 (permalink)
Freaky Magik Mod Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,473	All Hail Waylit Woodlover's 08!!!!!! Do you ever find the bags of woodchips dries out before full colonization from the initial popcorn spawning? Also, I notice you use Alder Chips - those must be available only in certain geographic regions. In my area, all that is usually available is Hickory chips or Oak chips in the stores. Both of which won't do too well with magic woodloving species. So I guess a chipper might have to be a piece of equipment to look into purchasing. Thanks for treating us to a WaylitJim woodlover extravaganza!!!!!!! __________________ Get On The Good Foot

06-10-08, 18:45	#18 (permalink)
CoyoteMesc KEY MASTER Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,191	Sportsman's Warehouse. Alder chips are great for smoking fish. __________________ "well, since you asked so very fuckin' nicely, sure!" ~H3

06-11-08, 12:18	#20 (permalink)
feralronin ... Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 734	Waylit you never cease to amaze me with your grows. I hope this one turns out well.

06-11-08, 12:51	#21 (permalink)
Godflesh Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 549	Nice to see yoou keepin busy Lit! Just wondered what you mixed in with your bulk chips? Just dirty or did you add the dirt for a purpose? __________________ Eye am Why am Eye

06-11-08, 17:37	#23 (permalink)
mycobri mycomod Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,368	truly inspirational work Thanks Waylit

06-11-08, 21:37	#25 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,853	I'm working with three species this season. All the tubs look alike. P. cyanofriscosa picture one (new species or cyanescens subspecies from the SF Bay Area) P. subaeruginascens (Japanese Ringed Psilocybe) - New to North America. (Found in the Bay Area 2006) P. azurescens (good ol' azures) Attached Thumbnails __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))> Last edited by waylitjim : 07-20-08 at 11:34.

06-11-08, 22:50	#26 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,374	Love the Azure pic..Have fun with those projects Jim - looking good...

07-20-08, 06:15	#27 (permalink)
nightflyer Transformer Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 77	Psilocybe cyanofriscosa / Psilocybe "subaeruginascens" SF Hello, I am a newbie on this forum from central Europe and I am working with Ps. cyanofriscosa and Ps. "subaeruginascens" SF (the species found by auweia and waylitjim in San Francisco). I have done some tests using different agar nutrient media. The best and fastest growth was on oat flake agar. The growth on MEA and PDA was much more slower. Pic: left Ps. "subaeruginascens" SF, right Ps. cyanofriscosa OAT FLAKE AGAR: Oat flakes 30 gr. Agar powder 20 gr. Water 1 L Boil oat flakes in water for 10 min, strain through a sieve, fill up to 1L and add agar, adjust pH to 4,5, autoclave at 121 C for 20 min. Shake before pouring. Attached Thumbnails

07-20-08, 11:35	#28 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,853	Good tip on the Oat Flakes Nightflyer. Glad to see you have healthy cultures started! __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

07-20-08, 12:48	#29 (permalink)
Santiago Shepherd Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 594	waylitjim, is the P. subaeruginascens fruited out completely indoors? What are the growing parameters, if so? How is the trip compared to cubes, pans, and azures?