Panellus Stipticus - bioluminescent fungi

Myc · 08-23-08, 10:07

Been waiting for nearly a year
Finally these little gems decided to show themselves!!

Tried taking some long exposure photos to demonstrate the bioluminescence but my camera isn't high quality enough.

Hoping to try with a borrowed professional camera tonight.
After a minute or two outside, you can see the faint glow from several feet away. Very eerie looking.
I like to imagine the superstition surrounding these fungi prior to scientific study!
Very cool and well worth the wait.

Foster · 08-23-08, 10:17

Cool! Is this some that you grew, or natural?

TVCasualty · 08-23-08, 10:40

I'd love to see a pic of the gills. It looks like the caps of the bioluminescent fungi I found a few years ago, and I was having a hell of a time ID'ing it (meaning I never did). I did make sure it wasn't an Armillaria species (they are parasitic) and I wanted to propagate it.

I spread it all over the place on the property I lived on back then (in SE Tennessee) and it acted like natural landscape lighting. It was amazing. If it's the same stuff I found, the mycelium glows incredibly bright (when I peeled back some bark, exposing the myc., I could read by the light it cast).

Great find... MAKE SOME PRINTS! (upon closer inspection, it looks like you spawned a log with plugs... did you order the spores from a vendor?)

eatyualive · 08-23-08, 10:49

very nice!

BuckarooBanzai · 08-23-08, 10:51

Very, very cool Myc. I've never seen anybody have luck with those before (I know people have, just not people I know!).

Is that a birch log?

bugs · 08-23-08, 10:52

Way cool!! I've been considering getting some luminous fungus spores, and it's good to hear that they can be fairly bright. We have a, well, I guess you'd call it a trip garden at a place I visit, and those would be a great addition.

Were they difficult to get going?

Myc · 08-23-08, 23:04

The project was started from plug spawn purchased from Sporeworks.
Innoculated to an Arizona Ash log.
I will try to take some prints.

It's raining here so I can't get photos tonight.
Hoping for tomorrow
Will take awhile to upload bioluminescent pic since I only have access to a 35mm traditional film camera.

I guess I just must be one lucky fool to have such great success with all of my projects.
Can't wait for this Fall to see how my other woodlovers like me!

Thanks for looking.

BuckarooBanzai · 08-23-08, 23:14

Luck is part of it, but a small part I believe.

From reading your posts, I think a much bigger part of it is your methodical approach. Growers tend to approach the work like they approach their writeups.

Precision in documentation usually connotes an equivalent precision in preparation and execution.

Precision seems to go hand in hand with success in most things, but very much so in this hobby.

08-30-08, 18:45

How did I miss this thread?

Very cool Myc! Great to see someone fruiting these. I really love bioluminescence. I've been told that the ghost fungus, Omphalota nidiformis, grows near to where I live. I've found what I'm assuming was the same species once before, while I was out in the bush at night time. They have a very strong glow to them. I'm planning on going hunting for them at some point soon with cloning and printing in mind.

Myc · 08-30-08, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by psylence

How did I miss this thread?
. I've been told that the ghost fungus, Omphalota nidiformis, grows near to where I live. I'm planning on going hunting for them at some point soon with cloning and printing in mind.

Please keep me in mind when you do.
Ironically, these fruited just after those samples went out.

08-30-08, 22:41

I most definitely will Myc.

Myc · 09-18-08, 11:51

I let these mature a little before grabbing a specimen for closeups
They are slow growers for sure - still glowing at night!

Glow-in-the-dark photographs are proving to be beyond my photography skills but I'll keep trying.
Hoping to add some to this thread.

eatyualive · 09-18-08, 21:28

damn you should have options menu with a nightshot option. thats awesome myc. turn the flash off. also, so, as ive seen bioluminescence before. do you have to touch it to get a reaction. i know often in the water you have to swim or see waves crashing to see the bioluminescence. depending on timing and amount it can look like a crazy flurry of blue green waves crashing against boats.

i lived in the usvi and was tripping on lsd before a thunderstorm on a boat. and the waves were crashing and lighting up. it was very amazing!

Myc · 09-19-08, 11:23

Thanks Eatyu
I was hoping for some photography advice

I've tried a digital camera.
Night setting - long shutter exposure
ISO 400 film speed
Largest aperture opening that I can achieve with this camera

35mm traditional film camera
30 sec. shutter exposure - I don't have a photographer's bulb so this is the longest I can get
ISO 200 film
ISO 1600 film
Wasn't paying attention to the aperture setting ( f stop )
Film is getting rather expensive @ $10 a pop with no results!!

All photos were taken using a stable tripod and the cameras' onboard timer system so I can press the shutter activation without shaking the camera while the shutter is open.

Waiting to borrow another camera - got a friend with a professional grade digital which should save on film while experimenting.

I have some colonized woodchip spawn bags that glow like a son-of-a-gun!! Man they are bright.
I put them on the dresser in my bedroom and go to sleep at night admiring them. Not enough light to read by but they do cast some ambient light.
Here's the best I can do so far - photo from the aforementioned digital camera but the zoom is too weak to get good closeups.

Cthulhu's Tentacle · 09-21-08, 08:40

do you know anyone with a Sony camera with nightshot?

also, if you want to keep using film cameras with long exposures, you can just ask the photolab to develop the negatives (cheaper than printing a bunch of black frames)

then you can cherry pick the frames you want printed.

immortalon · 09-21-08, 09:38

For a shot like this you might need more than 30 seconds if it's at night. Generally there is a bulb setting on most older 35 mm cameras. With this you can take a cable release, and as long as it's depressed it will hold the shutter open. Newer cameras might have it where you press the shutter and it opens, and won't close until you press it again.
You might want to do this with a flash along with the open shutter. This would combine the normal image with the glow. Just hit it with a low flash burst while the shutter is open, or you could just do this with a hand held light for a few seconds on. All of this would be better done with a digital camera. If you did this with film, you would need a high end light/flash meter to know what settings to use. With digital you can look at the preview to see if you got it right.
My guess is that you are looking at a 2 min exposure at 400 iso, f4, and with a 100 watt bulb in lamp of some sort about 2 seconds on.

Jigalow · 09-21-08, 09:53

[COLOR=Lime]MYC,

You might want to send a message to this guy
to see what his setup was on his cam.

Jigalow · 09-21-08, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigalow

[color=Lime]MYC,

You might want to send a message to this guy
to see what his setup was on his cam.

Opps... Sorry MYc,

I broke a board rule and linked off site (got warned)
Anyhow, it was a link where a guy has some
good pics of Panellus Stipticus, I figure you
could contact him to see what was his
setup on his digital camera.

Myc · 09-22-08, 12:07

Thanks for the link Jigalow.
Not sure what the problem was but it's the thought that counts.
My blocks look just like the ones shown in the photos you linked (sans fruitbodies).

Thanks all - for the photography tips.
I've been able to get some better photos and will continue to play with the camera.
These fungi are actually very fun and rewarding. Maybe I'm still just a kid at heart.

These images were taken using a Canon PowerShot S410
No flash
long shutter exposure option set for 15 seconds
tripod
timer to prevent camera shake
aperture is not adjustable to my knowledge (f stop)

Cthulhu's Tentacle · 09-22-08, 18:40

BB is failing my upload, so imageshack it is...

tried to enhance the image a bit.
http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enhancedlt8.jpg

Myc · 09-24-08, 10:58

Thanks CT.
I just did a simple copy and paste to bring the image here from imageshack.

We are asked to please not link to offsite images.
The links get broken and go dead.
I'm no computer genius and managed to get it here so I know it can be done.

Myc · 09-30-08, 17:13

Bag culture of Panellus stipticus is turning out to be rather entertaining!
The bags, while colonizing, continue to appear brighter each day.
Still working on low-light photography.

I am anxious to see how one turns out when the bag is stripped away and allowed FAE. I'll be finding out soon and will post progress pics here.

hyphaenation · 09-30-08, 17:26

This is a Mycotopia exclusive.

livewire420 · 09-30-08, 17:30

damn myc how i miss this thread

09-30-08, 18:46

Looking great Myc. I checked out my plates of the culture of you send me in the dark for the first time last night. They've been fruiting for a while, so that had a beautiful glow to them. So exciting!

BuckarooBanzai · 10-01-08, 19:01

So the mycelium is glowing while it is still colonizing the bag?

You have the touch, man. Damned cool thread.

Myc · 10-02-08, 13:14

Yes! Persistence Pays Didivends!

Finally got those photos I've been struggling for. Thanks for the photography advice everyone. Couldn't have done it without you!

These are the photos strait from the developer - no alterations using:
35 mm traditional film camera
"bulb" setting for shutter operation
jerry-rigged cable release - exposures set for 10-15 min.
f4.0 - widest aperture possible for this model camera
ISO 400 film
tripod

Got one of these fruiting in the greenhouse. Bag was removed yesterday so I should see fruitbodies within the next 2 or 3 weeks. Will keep updating.

Toads tool · 10-04-08, 07:02

That is just too cool.

DarkLestor · 10-08-08, 00:01

bitchen!

I've always wanted to see these in person,

someday...

shroom_seeker · 10-08-08, 00:26

Very cool, Myc!

Myc · 01-23-09, 16:40

These fungi are very tough and equally resistant to contamination.
Still fruiting and glowing like mad.

I had several bags which I gave out as gifts. Recently, I got one back to check progress. Lots of interesting growth if the culture is deprived of ample fresh air.

Looks like a good cluster found a pin-hole in the bag to jump through.

spacecake · 01-23-09, 17:46

Archive material !

Good stuff Myc. !

Mandrake · 01-24-09, 05:40

Facinating mushrooms!

I would love to grow these!!

I found one source that says that Panellus stipticus has anti-tumor effects, so not only is it a novelty mushroom, but also possibly a medicinal one!

Thanks for the thread!

Mandrake

TVCasualty · 01-24-09, 08:03

Wow, nice job. I hope your friends appreciate the gift of a big bag of glowing fungus as much as I would!

Myc · 01-24-09, 10:49

The main objective of my test was to determine if a non-scientific mind could care for these fungal cultures.
I plan to cultivate and sell them as Halloween novelty items and my experiments have been successful.

These cultures are tough enough to be delivered into the care of a child so long as they remain inside the culture bag.
I wanted to avoid the whole.... "child runs with broken toy to mommy/daddy - in tears"......warrantee issues, etc.......
The cutures continue to survive and grow despite less than desirable living conditions. Most of all, they continue to GLOW.

Thanks for looking everyone!

Myc · 01-26-09, 18:27

It occurred to me that I haven't posted a picture of the block which I removed from the bag.
Lots of small fruitbodies with a few of the largest measuring around 2 cm.

Dr.Hallucination. · 01-26-09, 19:30

Very cool grow Myc.The glowing mycilium in the bags is very cool indeed.

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08-23-08, 10:07	#1 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	Panellus Stipticus - bioluminescent fungi Been waiting for nearly a year Finally these little gems decided to show themselves!! Tried taking some long exposure photos to demonstrate the bioluminescence but my camera isn't high quality enough. Hoping to try with a borrowed professional camera tonight. After a minute or two outside, you can see the faint glow from several feet away. Very eerie looking. I like to imagine the superstition surrounding these fungi prior to scientific study! Very cool and well worth the wait. Attached Thumbnails

08-23-08, 10:40	#3 (permalink)
TVCasualty Embrace Your Damage Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,392	I'd love to see a pic of the gills. It looks like the caps of the bioluminescent fungi I found a few years ago, and I was having a hell of a time ID'ing it (meaning I never did). I did make sure it wasn't an Armillaria species (they are parasitic) and I wanted to propagate it. I spread it all over the place on the property I lived on back then (in SE Tennessee) and it acted like natural landscape lighting. It was amazing. If it's the same stuff I found, the mycelium glows incredibly bright (when I peeled back some bark, exposing the myc., I could read by the light it cast). Great find... MAKE SOME PRINTS! (upon closer inspection, it looks like you spawned a log with plugs... did you order the spores from a vendor?) __________________ First they ignore you; then they mock you; then they punish you; then you win. -Gandhi

08-23-08, 10:49	#4 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,375	very nice! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

08-23-08, 10:51	#5 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,053	Very, very cool Myc. I've never seen anybody have luck with those before (I know people have, just not people I know!). Is that a birch log? __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

08-23-08, 10:17	#2 (permalink)
Foster intotheoutside Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,854	Cool! Is this some that you grew, or natural?

08-23-08, 10:52	#6 (permalink)
bugs GO LEMMINGS GO! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,887	Way cool!! I've been considering getting some luminous fungus spores, and it's good to hear that they can be fairly bright. We have a, well, I guess you'd call it a trip garden at a place I visit, and those would be a great addition. Were they difficult to get going? __________________ Bagseed is like a box o' chocolates. Ya never know what you're gonna get.

08-23-08, 23:04	#7 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	The project was started from plug spawn purchased from Sporeworks. Innoculated to an Arizona Ash log. I will try to take some prints. It's raining here so I can't get photos tonight. Hoping for tomorrow Will take awhile to upload bioluminescent pic since I only have access to a 35mm traditional film camera. I guess I just must be one lucky fool to have such great success with all of my projects. Can't wait for this Fall to see how my other woodlovers like me! Thanks for looking.

08-23-08, 23:14	#8 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,053	Luck is part of it, but a small part I believe. From reading your posts, I think a much bigger part of it is your methodical approach. Growers tend to approach the work like they approach their writeups. Precision in documentation usually connotes an equivalent precision in preparation and execution. Precision seems to go hand in hand with success in most things, but very much so in this hobby. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

08-30-08, 18:45	#9 (permalink)
~psi Guest Posts: n/a	How did I miss this thread? Very cool Myc! Great to see someone fruiting these. I really love bioluminescence. I've been told that the ghost fungus, Omphalota nidiformis, grows near to where I live. I've found what I'm assuming was the same species once before, while I was out in the bush at night time. They have a very strong glow to them. I'm planning on going hunting for them at some point soon with cloning and printing in mind.

08-30-08, 22:41	#11 (permalink)
~psi Guest Posts: n/a	I most definitely will Myc.

09-18-08, 11:51	#12 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	More pics I let these mature a little before grabbing a specimen for closeups They are slow growers for sure - still glowing at night! Glow-in-the-dark photographs are proving to be beyond my photography skills but I'll keep trying. Hoping to add some to this thread. Attached Thumbnails

09-18-08, 21:28	#13 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,375	damn you should have options menu with a nightshot option. thats awesome myc. turn the flash off. also, so, as ive seen bioluminescence before. do you have to touch it to get a reaction. i know often in the water you have to swim or see waves crashing to see the bioluminescence. depending on timing and amount it can look like a crazy flurry of blue green waves crashing against boats. i lived in the usvi and was tripping on lsd before a thunderstorm on a boat. and the waves were crashing and lighting up. it was very amazing! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

09-19-08, 11:23	#14 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	Thanks Eatyu I was hoping for some photography advice I've tried a digital camera. Night setting - long shutter exposure ISO 400 film speed Largest aperture opening that I can achieve with this camera 35mm traditional film camera 30 sec. shutter exposure - I don't have a photographer's bulb so this is the longest I can get ISO 200 film ISO 1600 film Wasn't paying attention to the aperture setting ( f stop ) Film is getting rather expensive @ $10 a pop with no results!! All photos were taken using a stable tripod and the cameras' onboard timer system so I can press the shutter activation without shaking the camera while the shutter is open. Waiting to borrow another camera - got a friend with a professional grade digital which should save on film while experimenting. I have some colonized woodchip spawn bags that glow like a son-of-a-gun!! Man they are bright. I put them on the dresser in my bedroom and go to sleep at night admiring them. Not enough light to read by but they do cast some ambient light. Here's the best I can do so far - photo from the aforementioned digital camera but the zoom is too weak to get good closeups. Attached Thumbnails

09-21-08, 08:40	#15 (permalink)
Cthulhu's Tentacle Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 244	do you know anyone with a Sony camera with nightshot? also, if you want to keep using film cameras with long exposures, you can just ask the photolab to develop the negatives (cheaper than printing a bunch of black frames) then you can cherry pick the frames you want printed.

09-30-08, 17:26	#23 (permalink)
hyphaenation Puck Teknician Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,905	This is a Mycotopia exclusive. __________________ This is the house that Hip built ! Best free university in the world

10-04-08, 07:02	#28 (permalink)
Toads tool VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 106	That is just too cool. __________________ Boop...Boop...Boop....

09-21-08, 09:38	#16 (permalink)
immortalon Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 47	For a shot like this you might need more than 30 seconds if it's at night. Generally there is a bulb setting on most older 35 mm cameras. With this you can take a cable release, and as long as it's depressed it will hold the shutter open. Newer cameras might have it where you press the shutter and it opens, and won't close until you press it again. You might want to do this with a flash along with the open shutter. This would combine the normal image with the glow. Just hit it with a low flash burst while the shutter is open, or you could just do this with a hand held light for a few seconds on. All of this would be better done with a digital camera. If you did this with film, you would need a high end light/flash meter to know what settings to use. With digital you can look at the preview to see if you got it right. My guess is that you are looking at a 2 min exposure at 400 iso, f4, and with a 100 watt bulb in lamp of some sort about 2 seconds on.

09-21-08, 09:53	#17 (permalink)
Jigalow Former Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 668	[COLOR=Lime]MYC, You might want to send a message to this guy to see what his setup was on his cam. Last edited by eatyualive; 09-21-08 at 19:58. Reason: offsite links

09-22-08, 12:07	#19 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	Thanks for the link Jigalow. Not sure what the problem was but it's the thought that counts. My blocks look just like the ones shown in the photos you linked (sans fruitbodies). Thanks all - for the photography tips. I've been able to get some better photos and will continue to play with the camera. These fungi are actually very fun and rewarding. Maybe I'm still just a kid at heart. These images were taken using a Canon PowerShot S410 No flash long shutter exposure option set for 15 seconds tripod timer to prevent camera shake aperture is not adjustable to my knowledge (f stop) Attached Thumbnails

09-22-08, 18:40	#20 (permalink)
Cthulhu's Tentacle Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 244	BB is failing my upload, so imageshack it is... tried to enhance the image a bit. http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enhancedlt8.jpg

09-24-08, 10:58	#21 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	Thanks CT. I just did a simple copy and paste to bring the image here from imageshack. We are asked to please not link to offsite images. The links get broken and go dead. I'm no computer genius and managed to get it here so I know it can be done. Last edited by Myc; 09-24-08 at 11:01. Reason: request not to link offsite images

09-30-08, 17:13	#22 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	Prolific Pinset Bag culture of Panellus stipticus is turning out to be rather entertaining! The bags, while colonizing, continue to appear brighter each day. Still working on low-light photography. I am anxious to see how one turns out when the bag is stripped away and allowed FAE. I'll be finding out soon and will post progress pics here. Attached Thumbnails

09-30-08, 17:30	#24 (permalink)
livewire420 Former Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,271	damn myc how i miss this thread

09-30-08, 18:46	#25 (permalink)
~psi Guest Posts: n/a	Looking great Myc. I checked out my plates of the culture of you send me in the dark for the first time last night. They've been fruiting for a while, so that had a beautiful glow to them. So exciting!

10-01-08, 19:01	#26 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,053	So the mycelium is glowing while it is still colonizing the bag? You have the touch, man. Damned cool thread. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

10-02-08, 13:14	#27 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	Yes! Persistence Pays Didivends! Finally got those photos I've been struggling for. Thanks for the photography advice everyone. Couldn't have done it without you! These are the photos strait from the developer - no alterations using: 35 mm traditional film camera "bulb" setting for shutter operation jerry-rigged cable release - exposures set for 10-15 min. f4.0 - widest aperture possible for this model camera ISO 400 film tripod Got one of these fruiting in the greenhouse. Bag was removed yesterday so I should see fruitbodies within the next 2 or 3 weeks. Will keep updating. Attached Thumbnails

10-08-08, 00:01	#29 (permalink)
DarkLestor Listening not speaking... Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 294	bitchen! I've always wanted to see these in person, someday...

10-08-08, 00:26	#30 (permalink)
shroom_seeker Editor Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,497	Very cool, Myc! __________________ We are on the cutting edge of the revolution Free their minds and their asses will follow - H3

01-23-09, 16:40	#31 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	Project Update These fungi are very tough and equally resistant to contamination. Still fruiting and glowing like mad. I had several bags which I gave out as gifts. Recently, I got one back to check progress. Lots of interesting growth if the culture is deprived of ample fresh air. Looks like a good cluster found a pin-hole in the bag to jump through. Attached Thumbnails

01-23-09, 17:46	#32 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,810	Archive material ! Good stuff Myc. ! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

01-24-09, 05:40	#33 (permalink)
Mandrake Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 67	Facinating mushrooms! I would love to grow these!! I found one source that says that Panellus stipticus has anti-tumor effects, so not only is it a novelty mushroom, but also possibly a medicinal one! Thanks for the thread! Mandrake

01-24-09, 08:03	#34 (permalink)
TVCasualty Embrace Your Damage Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,392	Wow, nice job. I hope your friends appreciate the gift of a big bag of glowing fungus as much as I would! __________________ First they ignore you; then they mock you; then they punish you; then you win. -Gandhi

01-24-09, 10:49	#35 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	The main objective of my test was to determine if a non-scientific mind could care for these fungal cultures. I plan to cultivate and sell them as Halloween novelty items and my experiments have been successful. These cultures are tough enough to be delivered into the care of a child so long as they remain inside the culture bag. I wanted to avoid the whole.... "child runs with broken toy to mommy/daddy - in tears"......warrantee issues, etc....... The cutures continue to survive and grow despite less than desirable living conditions. Most of all, they continue to GLOW. Thanks for looking everyone!

01-26-09, 18:27	#36 (permalink)
Myc El Jardinero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,262	It occurred to me that I haven't posted a picture of the block which I removed from the bag. Lots of small fruitbodies with a few of the largest measuring around 2 cm. Attached Thumbnails

01-26-09, 19:30	#37 (permalink)
Dr.Hallucination. Chasing the Rabbit. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,427	Very cool grow Myc.The glowing mycilium in the bags is very cool indeed. __________________ The man who walk's through the door on the wall,Will never be quite the same,As the man who went out.

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