Hillbilly bulk sub photo essay - spawn through harvest LOTS OF IMAGES

BuckarooBanzai · 09-21-09, 12:18

I wanted to photographically document what a bulk substrate looks like from spawning through harvest. I encourage anybody with a decent camera to do the same. You will learn a lot looking at high res pictures of the developing mycelia. It is also lots of fun to play the “guess where the pins will form” game…

Strain: Hillbilly
Inoculant: Spore Syringe
Spawn: Popcorn
Spawn Ratio: 1:3 of popcorn:bulk
Bulk Substrate: 40:40:20 / coir:castings:Poly (by volume)
Substrate depth: 4in
Top Dressing: thin layer of substrate to cover exposed popcorn
Spawn Run Temp: 83F-84F
Pinning Temp: 83F-84F
Relative Humidity: 80%-90% (continuously)
Pins noted 11 days from spawning

Spawn Run Time Line:
Day 0 – Popcorn spawned to bulk substrate
Day 1 – First picture after 24hrs incubation
Day 6 - Fruiting Conditions initiated
Day 11 – Pins noted, macro shots taken
Day 12 – Good pin set noted, macro shots taken
Day 14 - Harvest

Time Line:
Day 1 – 2 pint popcorn jar inoculated with .5mL spore water
Day 5 – Popcorn jar 70% - violent shake
Day 9 – Popcorn jar 100% - violent shake
Day 10 – Popcorn jar converted to slurry, popcorn spawn bag inoculated with slurry
Day 14- Popcorn bag kneaded
Day 18- Popcorn bag kneaded
Day 19 – Popcorn spawned to bulk substrate
Day 20 – First picture
Day 24 – Fruiting Conditions initiated
Day 29 – Pins noted, macro shots taken
Day 30 – Good pin set noted, macro shots taken
Day 33 - Harvest

Process:
A pint canning jar with silicone injection ports and a double Tyvek vent was filled 2/3 with hydrated popcorn. A medium pre-sealable spawn bag from sporeworks.com was filled with 10 cups of hydrated popcorn and 1 cup of bulk substrate and sealed with an Impulse sealer. Substrate and popcorn were mixed thoroughly before filling the bag. The spawn bag and pint jar were sterilized at 15psi for 90 minutes

After cooling completely, the pint jar was inoculated with .5mL of Hillbilly spore water, shaken and incubated at 84F-85F. When approximately 70% colonized, the popcorn jar was shaken thoroughly. At 100% colonization the popcorn jar was shaken thoroughly. After the jar was again 100% colonized, it was shaken violently to prepare for mycelia extraction.

180mL of sterile water was injected into the popcorn pint jar. The jar was shaken violently for 5 minutes to break up the mycelia and distribute it into the water. Using a 60mL syringe, as much water was removed from the pint jar as possible. Approximately 165mL of mycelia slurry was recovered from the pint jar.

All mycelia slurry was used to inoculate the spawn bag through a silicone injection port. The slurry was distributed across as much of the popcorn as possible and the bag was kneaded thoroughly after inoculation. The bag was then incubated at 84F-85F until colonized 50%. The bag was then kneaded and incubated until colonized 100%.

30 cups of bulk substrate (40:40:20 coir:castings:Poly - by volume) was prepared. All substrate components were hydrated to field capacity and then mixed. The bulk substrate was loaded into 3 medium sporeworks.com pre-sealable spawn bags, sealed and sterilized at 15psi for 90 minutes.

The 100% colonized popcorn spawn bag was thoroughly kneaded to break up all mycelia chunks. After kneading the spawn bag was incubated at 84F-85F for 24 hours to allow it time to recover.

Popcorn spawn and bulk substrate were mixed in a large plastic tub. Approximately 10% of the bulk substrate was held back and used as a top layer on the tub, covering all exposed popcorn. The tub was very loosely covered with aluminum foil and incubated at 82F-83F until 80% colonized.

At 80% colonization, the aluminum foil was removed and the tub was placed in terrarium with a 12/12 florescent light source and 80%-90% RH. The terrarium was provided approximately 6 FAE per day via an aquarium air pump.

Pictures of the substrate were taken every day at approximately the same time, from 24 hours after initial spawning until pins were observed and well developed.

Notes:
The popcorn pint was shaken an excessive number of times and allowed to recover to test for bacterial contamination. Any contamination in the popcorn pint would have doomed the entire project to failure. If the jar had failed to recover quickly from any of the shakes, it would have been discarded immediately.

The idea to inject water into popcorn jars, shake and the remove mycelia slurry comes from Fahtster. I thank him from the bottom of my heart for introducing me to the idea. I find this Tek to be infinitely more valuable than liquid culture for producing large volumes of guaranteed sterile inoculant. Thank you Faht, wherever you are!!!

The “poly” in my bulk substrate is polyacrylamide. Also known as water crystals. I do NOT want to get into an argument about poly being toxic, etc. If poly does not appeal to you, vermiculte can be used as a replacement.

Incubating bulk substrates at 82F-83F is a risky proposition. If your environment is dirty or your techniques are poor, the chances of loosing a bulk sub to contamination are dramatically increased above 80F. A large bulk substrate incubated at 83F ambient will easily reach 86F-87F internally. Metabolites will precipitate on the substrate surface and they need to be removed via syringe or absorbent material. Excessive metabolite buildup will inhibit pinning.

I do not recommend that YOU incubate in a warm/wet 83F environment until you have all your environment variables dialed in solid. Seriously – contaminants grow very, very quickly at 83F.

But…I do not practice what I preach because I’m not the type of person I’m preaching to…

BuckarooBanzai · 09-21-09, 12:34

Day 1. 24 hours of incubation. Mycelia just peeking through in a couple spots.

Day 2. 48 hours of incubation.

Day 3. 72 hours of incubation.

Day 4. 96 hours of incubation.

Day 5. Growth is excellent. Some metabolites (myc piss - the yellow liquid) is removed with the corner of a paper towel.

Day 6. Growth is proceeding rapidly. Pinning conditions introduced today.

Day 7.

Day 8.

BuckarooBanzai · 09-21-09, 12:42

Day 9 - knots that will become pins are visible! Can you find them?

Day 10 - Many more knots and even a few primordia!

Day 10- Upper left quadrant macro - definite primordia and pins.

Day 10 - Lower left quadrant macro - definite primordia and pins

Day 10 - Upper right quadrant macro

Day 10 - Lower right quadrant macro

BuckarooBanzai · 09-21-09, 12:48

Okay, here we are at day 11. Pins a-plenty at this point. I think this tray should have incubated an additional 24 hours before fruiting conditions were initiated...

Day 11 - whole tray

Day 11 - Center quadrant macro

Day 12 - Upper left quadrant macro

Day 13 - Lower left quadrant macro

Day 13 - Upper right quadrant macro

Day 13 - Lower right quadrant macro

BuckarooBanzai · 09-21-09, 12:54

Day 12, whole tub:

Day 12 upper left quadrant:

Day 12 lower left quadrant:

Day 12 upper right quadrant. Please disregard the crushed primordia. Somebody idiot the light on 'em while taking pictures...

Day 12 lower right quadrant:

BuckarooBanzai · 09-21-09, 12:55

So that's my fun little game. How many pins could you find developing after seeing what the same area looked like 24 hours later?

Seeing detail in pictures is sometimes easier than seeing it with your eyes...

I have much higher resolution shots I could upload, but I think there is enough detail visible in those.

You thoughts, Hobson?

Thre365ive · 09-21-09, 13:29

Nice job. I love when somebody has daily updates. It's almost as if I'm growing them myself (without the happy ending, anyway.)

Beastmaster · 09-21-09, 15:24

Quote:

Bulk substrate : 40:40:20 / coir:castings:Poly (by volume)

What is "Poly"?

Poly-what? not poly-fill, right?

Polywogs?

BuckarooBanzai · 09-21-09, 15:28

Polyacrylamide. Water crystals. The binder in straw net. Dangerous and deadly toxins...

Verm does almost as well in the role of water reservoir for the sub.

hyphaenation · 09-21-09, 15:38

For people who want to read more about poly crystals there's very good info and pictures in this thread:

http://forums.mycotopia.net/misc-mag...tml#post292135 (BB Tek - A complete walk through; spores to LC to jars to bulk substrate)

Scoot down to this post to see pictures of the crystals hydrating:

http://forums.mycotopia.net/misc-mag...tml#post292135 (BB Tek - A complete walk through; spores to LC to jars to bulk substrate)

Ben Dover · 09-21-09, 16:01

Awesome thread BB! I'd rep ya but I gotta share the love some more.

In the next couple weeks with your updates this will be even more amazing

eatyualive · 09-21-09, 17:22

damn those are some plump pins!

stimpy · 09-21-09, 21:06

Well cletus i tell ya what them ol boys from east tx keep stealin mah chickens gonna get one of them, whatchama call russian rifles keep em off my lawn light em up from yonder good 150 yards

Frequency · 09-21-09, 22:03

I lovvveee ittt!!!#@$##%~

BB u rock! <3 <3 <3 I've been hearing some great things about Hillbilly and this thread certainly illuminates it's potential.

wildburr · 09-21-09, 22:44

Nice job there BB

, Hope my Hillbilly's turn out like that. Just spawned mine to bulk a few days ago.

kcmoxtractor · 09-21-09, 22:47

Nice work BB. Beautiful documentation!

BuckarooBanzai · 09-22-09, 12:17

Day 13 since spawning:

Even from multispore, the Hillbilly strain is a giver.

vrooota · 09-22-09, 13:47

looking good...I hope my hillbillys turn out that dense of a pin set...another week or so and ill kno..yay...great photos btw

BuckarooBanzai · 09-22-09, 14:10

From my previous experience, this is a very good pin set for Hillbilly from multispore.

I do already see the characteristic size difference in fruits. HB does not like to throw a level canopy of similarly sized 'shrooms!

CoyoteMesc · 09-22-09, 18:38

Looking good Buck!

I know what you're saying about the even canopy but with that pin set....your
gonna have a canopy never the less

Scratch · 09-22-09, 23:27

Beautiful pics, excellent write up.
I see a lot of effort went into documenting this grow.
Thanks for sharing.

BGB · 09-23-09, 00:45

Wouldnt mind giving this a shot myself, thanks for the inspiration mang! respect! and awesome documentation!

XxMushroomsxX · 09-23-09, 13:34

Man thats a good set up and its seems to work great for that type of growing.

BuckarooBanzai · 09-23-09, 15:53

Day 14 - harvest:

I'm happy.

MLBjammer · 09-23-09, 17:37

That is a full tub of HBs--very beautiful. Thanks for posting.

CoyoteMesc · 09-23-09, 18:34

Damn right! and Im happy for ya,

Dunk and round two?

GadgetGuy · 09-23-09, 18:57

It almost looks like there is a whole new pinset coming in as those are ready to be harvested. Sweet tub man!

BuckarooBanzai · 09-23-09, 20:31

I don't actually dunk. One of the advantages of that old devil polyacrylamide...

I flood the surface to rinse it and then dump the excess moisture out of the tub. Then back into the FC for round 2. Then, onto the compost heap this sub shall go...

Gadget - all those pins you see are aborts. None will mature. Virtually all of them were removed when the tub was harvested.

CoyoteMesc · 09-25-09, 17:50

Yeah, I do similar with trays. Except I let em soak for 8-15 hours depending on how pores/tight they are colonized if ya know what Im saying.

ez_goin · 09-25-09, 18:12

Very nice! I'm looking forward to seeing a second flush from that tray!

floppypeter · 09-25-09, 20:43

Awesome harvest and photos

Do, I see vert on the fruit ?

BuckarooBanzai · 09-25-09, 20:59

Oh yeah, beaucoup vert. Almost unavoidable when you fruit so warm without a sterile fruiting environment. You will notice it worst on the oldest/largest fruits - they have had time to really "steep" in it.

Bacteria love warm and moist conditions. Fortunately, verticillium fights off other bacterial contams without drastically affecting harvest weight...

GadgetGuy · 09-26-09, 12:47

Do you always put your subs. into fruiting conditions when they aren't 100% colonized like that? I tried this with my latest two tubs and I'm gonna see if it helps the pinset or overall yield in the end.

Scratch · 09-26-09, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckarooBanzai

Incubating bulk substrates at 82F-83F is a risky proposition.

So why risk it, what's the rush?

BuckarooBanzai · 09-28-09, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by GadgetGuy

Do you always put your subs. into fruiting conditions when they aren't 100% colonized like that? I tried this with my latest two tubs and I'm gonna see if it helps the pinset or overall yield in the end.

I don't recommend it. Better to wait until a sub is 100% colonized before fruiting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scratch

So why risk it, what's the rush?

This was an experiment...I like experiments...

BuckarooBanzai · 10-02-09, 23:10

Firstly, yeah - I let these go too long and they splooged spores all over everything. Second - I'm not at all sure why they sprouted so much mycelia on the cap this time. Probably 'cause they went so long before being harvested!

Second flush:

I think I will let this casing go for a third flush in the terrarium environment. I'm interested to see what it will do.

I was quite surprised by the size of the second flush. It actually weighed more than the first flush. I haven't seen performance this good from some of my isolates (this was a multispore project). I think Teo smiled at this grow.

This is a good example of why you should ALWAYS keep a refrigerated grain master of any project. You never know how well a strain will perform until after a grow is finished.

And the bio-assay division of The Banzai Institute for Higher Education (The Banzai Institute for Higher Education: BuckarooBanzai's Tek Index) reported they were also very, very happy with this project. The come up is incredibly smooth with remarkably little of the "nervous energy" generally associated with mushrooms.

I friggin' love the Hillbilly strain.

MLBjammer · 10-03-09, 06:06

Those shrooms are massive from your second flush. HBs are an underrrated strain, to be sure.

BuckarooBanzai · 10-12-09, 12:37

3rd flush:

Should have harvested this about a day before, but was busy doing other things. Very surprised by the size of this flush.

Good stuff, though. Definitively demonstrated to me that cubensis growth speeds are strongly affected by ambient temps.

CoyoteMesc · 10-12-09, 12:41

No complaints there.

Spores seem to be light for such mature boomers.
Thats a good thing.

Sidestreet Getaway · 10-12-09, 13:37

Very nice. Gotta love the lack of nervous energy, and I love the cup shape of those mature caps. Go BB!

Elf Salvation · 10-14-09, 09:07

good read. Very nice work bb.

Like how ya shake master jars many times to make sure they are good to use..

Fine work indeed

Tripp · 10-14-09, 11:03

Great thread! Very interesting, good pics too. Looks like something SWIM might be into. Nice work man

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09-21-09, 12:18	#1 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Hillbilly bulk sub photo essay - spawn through harvest LOTS OF IMAGES I wanted to photographically document what a bulk substrate looks like from spawning through harvest. I encourage anybody with a decent camera to do the same. You will learn a lot looking at high res pictures of the developing mycelia. It is also lots of fun to play the “guess where the pins will form” game… Strain: Hillbilly Inoculant: Spore Syringe Spawn: Popcorn Spawn Ratio: 1:3 of popcorn:bulk Bulk Substrate: 40:40:20 / coir:castings:Poly (by volume) Substrate depth: 4in Top Dressing: thin layer of substrate to cover exposed popcorn Spawn Run Temp: 83F-84F Pinning Temp: 83F-84F Relative Humidity: 80%-90% (continuously) Pins noted 11 days from spawning Spawn Run Time Line: Day 0 – Popcorn spawned to bulk substrate Day 1 – First picture after 24hrs incubation Day 6 - Fruiting Conditions initiated Day 11 – Pins noted, macro shots taken Day 12 – Good pin set noted, macro shots taken Day 14 - Harvest Time Line: Day 1 – 2 pint popcorn jar inoculated with .5mL spore water Day 5 – Popcorn jar 70% - violent shake Day 9 – Popcorn jar 100% - violent shake Day 10 – Popcorn jar converted to slurry, popcorn spawn bag inoculated with slurry Day 14- Popcorn bag kneaded Day 18- Popcorn bag kneaded Day 19 – Popcorn spawned to bulk substrate Day 20 – First picture Day 24 – Fruiting Conditions initiated Day 29 – Pins noted, macro shots taken Day 30 – Good pin set noted, macro shots taken Day 33 - Harvest Process: A pint canning jar with silicone injection ports and a double Tyvek vent was filled 2/3 with hydrated popcorn. A medium pre-sealable spawn bag from sporeworks.com was filled with 10 cups of hydrated popcorn and 1 cup of bulk substrate and sealed with an Impulse sealer. Substrate and popcorn were mixed thoroughly before filling the bag. The spawn bag and pint jar were sterilized at 15psi for 90 minutes After cooling completely, the pint jar was inoculated with .5mL of Hillbilly spore water, shaken and incubated at 84F-85F. When approximately 70% colonized, the popcorn jar was shaken thoroughly. At 100% colonization the popcorn jar was shaken thoroughly. After the jar was again 100% colonized, it was shaken violently to prepare for mycelia extraction. 180mL of sterile water was injected into the popcorn pint jar. The jar was shaken violently for 5 minutes to break up the mycelia and distribute it into the water. Using a 60mL syringe, as much water was removed from the pint jar as possible. Approximately 165mL of mycelia slurry was recovered from the pint jar. All mycelia slurry was used to inoculate the spawn bag through a silicone injection port. The slurry was distributed across as much of the popcorn as possible and the bag was kneaded thoroughly after inoculation. The bag was then incubated at 84F-85F until colonized 50%. The bag was then kneaded and incubated until colonized 100%. 30 cups of bulk substrate (40:40:20 coir:castings:Poly - by volume) was prepared. All substrate components were hydrated to field capacity and then mixed. The bulk substrate was loaded into 3 medium sporeworks.com pre-sealable spawn bags, sealed and sterilized at 15psi for 90 minutes. The 100% colonized popcorn spawn bag was thoroughly kneaded to break up all mycelia chunks. After kneading the spawn bag was incubated at 84F-85F for 24 hours to allow it time to recover. Popcorn spawn and bulk substrate were mixed in a large plastic tub. Approximately 10% of the bulk substrate was held back and used as a top layer on the tub, covering all exposed popcorn. The tub was very loosely covered with aluminum foil and incubated at 82F-83F until 80% colonized. At 80% colonization, the aluminum foil was removed and the tub was placed in terrarium with a 12/12 florescent light source and 80%-90% RH. The terrarium was provided approximately 6 FAE per day via an aquarium air pump. Pictures of the substrate were taken every day at approximately the same time, from 24 hours after initial spawning until pins were observed and well developed. Notes: The popcorn pint was shaken an excessive number of times and allowed to recover to test for bacterial contamination. Any contamination in the popcorn pint would have doomed the entire project to failure. If the jar had failed to recover quickly from any of the shakes, it would have been discarded immediately. The idea to inject water into popcorn jars, shake and the remove mycelia slurry comes from Fahtster. I thank him from the bottom of my heart for introducing me to the idea. I find this Tek to be infinitely more valuable than liquid culture for producing large volumes of guaranteed sterile inoculant. Thank you Faht, wherever you are!!! The “poly” in my bulk substrate is polyacrylamide. Also known as water crystals. I do NOT want to get into an argument about poly being toxic, etc. If poly does not appeal to you, vermiculte can be used as a replacement. Incubating bulk substrates at 82F-83F is a risky proposition. If your environment is dirty or your techniques are poor, the chances of loosing a bulk sub to contamination are dramatically increased above 80F. A large bulk substrate incubated at 83F ambient will easily reach 86F-87F internally. Metabolites will precipitate on the substrate surface and they need to be removed via syringe or absorbent material. Excessive metabolite buildup will inhibit pinning. I do not recommend that YOU incubate in a warm/wet 83F environment until you have all your environment variables dialed in solid. Seriously – contaminants grow very, very quickly at 83F. But…I do not practice what I preach because I’m not the type of person I’m preaching to… __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads) Last edited by BuckarooBanzai; 09-23-09 at 16:28.

09-21-09, 12:34	#2 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Day 1. 24 hours of incubation. Mycelia just peeking through in a couple spots. Day 2. 48 hours of incubation. Day 3. 72 hours of incubation. Day 4. 96 hours of incubation. Day 5. Growth is excellent. Some metabolites (myc piss - the yellow liquid) is removed with the corner of a paper towel. Day 6. Growth is proceeding rapidly. Pinning conditions introduced today. Day 7. Day 8. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-21-09, 12:42	#3 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Day 9 - knots that will become pins are visible! Can you find them? Day 10 - Many more knots and even a few primordia! Day 10- Upper left quadrant macro - definite primordia and pins. Day 10 - Lower left quadrant macro - definite primordia and pins Day 10 - Upper right quadrant macro Day 10 - Lower right quadrant macro Attached Thumbnails __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-21-09, 12:48	#4 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Okay, here we are at day 11. Pins a-plenty at this point. I think this tray should have incubated an additional 24 hours before fruiting conditions were initiated... Day 11 - whole tray Day 11 - Center quadrant macro Day 12 - Upper left quadrant macro Day 13 - Lower left quadrant macro Day 13 - Upper right quadrant macro Day 13 - Lower right quadrant macro Attached Thumbnails __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-21-09, 12:54	#5 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Day 12, whole tub: Day 12 upper left quadrant: Day 12 lower left quadrant: Day 12 upper right quadrant. Please disregard the crushed primordia. Somebody idiot the light on 'em while taking pictures... Day 12 lower right quadrant: Attached Thumbnails __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-21-09, 12:55	#6 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	So that's my fun little game. How many pins could you find developing after seeing what the same area looked like 24 hours later? Seeing detail in pictures is sometimes easier than seeing it with your eyes... I have much higher resolution shots I could upload, but I think there is enough detail visible in those. You thoughts, Hobson? __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-21-09, 13:29	#7 (permalink)
Thre365ive Alchemycologist Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 359	Nice job. I love when somebody has daily updates. It's almost as if I'm growing them myself (without the happy ending, anyway.) __________________ I stared God in the face and asked his name. He tickled me from the tips of my toes to the tip of my head. I knew that it didn't matter.

09-21-09, 15:28	#9 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Polyacrylamide. Water crystals. The binder in straw net. Dangerous and deadly toxins... Verm does almost as well in the role of water reservoir for the sub. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-21-09, 15:38	#10 (permalink)
hyphaenation Puck Teknician Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,646	For people who want to read more about poly crystals there's very good info and pictures in this thread: http://forums.mycotopia.net/misc-mag...tml#post292135 (BB Tek - A complete walk through; spores to LC to jars to bulk substrate) Scoot down to this post to see pictures of the crystals hydrating: http://forums.mycotopia.net/misc-mag...tml#post292135 (BB Tek - A complete walk through; spores to LC to jars to bulk substrate) __________________ We're just flying by the seed of our plants.

09-21-09, 16:01	#11 (permalink)
Ben Dover fukenshrumen Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 576	Awesome thread BB! I'd rep ya but I gotta share the love some more. In the next couple weeks with your updates this will be even more amazing

09-21-09, 17:22	#12 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,064	damn those are some plump pins! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

09-21-09, 21:06	#13 (permalink)
stimpy rawr Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 411	Well cletus i tell ya what them ol boys from east tx keep stealin mah chickens gonna get one of them, whatchama call russian rifles keep em off my lawn light em up from yonder good 150 yards __________________ RAWWR

09-21-09, 22:03	#14 (permalink)
Frequency Code Demon Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 728	I lovvveee ittt!!!#@$##%~ BB u rock! <3 <3 <3 I've been hearing some great things about Hillbilly and this thread certainly illuminates it's potential. __________________ Programmer + Psychonaut = Frequency

09-21-09, 22:44	#15 (permalink)
wildburr Midnight Toker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,730	Nice job there BB , Hope my Hillbilly's turn out like that. Just spawned mine to bulk a few days ago. __________________ Silence is Golden, but Duct tape is Silver.

09-21-09, 22:47	#16 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	Nice work BB. Beautiful documentation! __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

09-22-09, 12:17	#17 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Day 13 since spawning: Even from multispore, the Hillbilly strain is a giver. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-22-09, 13:47	#18 (permalink)
vrooota Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 627	looking good...I hope my hillbillys turn out that dense of a pin set...another week or so and ill kno..yay...great photos btw __________________ I am what you see

09-22-09, 14:10	#19 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	From my previous experience, this is a very good pin set for Hillbilly from multispore. I do already see the characteristic size difference in fruits. HB does not like to throw a level canopy of similarly sized 'shrooms! __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-22-09, 18:38	#20 (permalink)
CoyoteMesc howling mad Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,044	Looking good Buck! I know what you're saying about the even canopy but with that pin set....your gonna have a canopy never the less __________________ WOODY: Hey, Mr. Peterson, there's a cold one waiting for you. NORM: I know. If she calls, I'm not here.[ (Cheers)

09-22-09, 23:27	#21 (permalink)
Scratch and sniff Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 309	Beautiful pics, excellent write up. I see a lot of effort went into documenting this grow. Thanks for sharing. __________________ face piles of trials with smiles

09-23-09, 00:45	#22 (permalink)
BGB the one who ate too many. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 250	Wouldnt mind giving this a shot myself, thanks for the inspiration mang! respect! and awesome documentation!

09-23-09, 13:34	#23 (permalink)
XxMushroomsxX He Will Consume Them All. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 84	Man thats a good set up and its seems to work great for that type of growing. __________________ *Why Do The Shadow People Watch Me?*

09-23-09, 15:53	#24 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Day 14 - harvest: I'm happy. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-23-09, 17:37	#25 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,862	That is a full tub of HBs--very beautiful. Thanks for posting.

09-23-09, 18:34	#26 (permalink)
CoyoteMesc howling mad Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,044	Damn right! and Im happy for ya, Dunk and round two? __________________ WOODY: Hey, Mr. Peterson, there's a cold one waiting for you. NORM: I know. If she calls, I'm not here.[ (Cheers)

09-23-09, 18:57	#27 (permalink)
GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,307	It almost looks like there is a whole new pinset coming in as those are ready to be harvested. Sweet tub man! __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

09-23-09, 20:31	#28 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	I don't actually dunk. One of the advantages of that old devil polyacrylamide... I flood the surface to rinse it and then dump the excess moisture out of the tub. Then back into the FC for round 2. Then, onto the compost heap this sub shall go... Gadget - all those pins you see are aborts. None will mature. Virtually all of them were removed when the tub was harvested. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-25-09, 17:50	#29 (permalink)
CoyoteMesc howling mad Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,044	Yeah, I do similar with trays. Except I let em soak for 8-15 hours depending on how pores/tight they are colonized if ya know what Im saying. __________________ WOODY: Hey, Mr. Peterson, there's a cold one waiting for you. NORM: I know. If she calls, I'm not here.[ (Cheers)

09-25-09, 18:12	#30 (permalink)
ez_goin Eager Student Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 435	Very nice! I'm looking forward to seeing a second flush from that tray!

09-25-09, 20:43	#31 (permalink)
floppypeter tra la la Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,229	Awesome harvest and photos Do, I see vert on the fruit ? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] WE FUNK RADIO

09-25-09, 20:59	#32 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Oh yeah, beaucoup vert. Almost unavoidable when you fruit so warm without a sterile fruiting environment. You will notice it worst on the oldest/largest fruits - they have had time to really "steep" in it. Bacteria love warm and moist conditions. Fortunately, verticillium fights off other bacterial contams without drastically affecting harvest weight... __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-26-09, 12:47	#33 (permalink)
GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,307	Do you always put your subs. into fruiting conditions when they aren't 100% colonized like that? I tried this with my latest two tubs and I'm gonna see if it helps the pinset or overall yield in the end. __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

10-02-09, 23:10	#36 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Firstly, yeah - I let these go too long and they splooged spores all over everything. Second - I'm not at all sure why they sprouted so much mycelia on the cap this time. Probably 'cause they went so long before being harvested! Second flush: I think I will let this casing go for a third flush in the terrarium environment. I'm interested to see what it will do. I was quite surprised by the size of the second flush. It actually weighed more than the first flush. I haven't seen performance this good from some of my isolates (this was a multispore project). I think Teo smiled at this grow. This is a good example of why you should ALWAYS keep a refrigerated grain master of any project. You never know how well a strain will perform until after a grow is finished. And the bio-assay division of The Banzai Institute for Higher Education (The Banzai Institute for Higher Education: BuckarooBanzai's Tek Index) reported they were also very, very happy with this project. The come up is incredibly smooth with remarkably little of the "nervous energy" generally associated with mushrooms. I friggin' love the Hillbilly strain. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

10-03-09, 06:06	#37 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,862	Those shrooms are massive from your second flush. HBs are an underrrated strain, to be sure.