Thai on popcorn/horse manure, need advice

machinelf · 10-03-09, 09:32

Hi,

This is my first post. First of all thanks to all people sharing all the great pictures and knowledge here. Been enjoying this site for awhile in anonymity.

Here are some pictures from my latest growth. This is an unknown thai-strain I got from a friend which I have grown on popcorn spawned on horse manure in a 50/50 mix. The casing layer is cactus soil and vermiculite, also 50/50.

This is the first time I try hose manure and was expecting bigger mushrooms than before but it turned out I got mostly pinky sized ones. I wonder if you have any idea what might be the cause of this? I myself suspect I don't have enough water for the mycelium to support this many mushrooms in larger size. I didn't mist that much. For the second flush I will try to mist much more and for the third I will dunk. I've always had problems with small capsize. I heard this is due to bad FAE. What can I do to improve this with my current setup? Today I fan manually about 5 times a day and I have some holes with polyfill as you can see on one of the pictures. Should I increase the amount of holes? I am quite poor right now but I intend to add an aquarium bubbler in the future.

Any comments on the pin set? This is from a multispore syringe.

I will add another tray soon and will update this thread with some more pictures.

Om shanti · 10-03-09, 09:39

Welcome to Mycotopia!

Very nice results IMO.

Can't complain about that beautiful pinset. :-)

Size - How deep is the substrate?

MLBjammer · 10-03-09, 09:44

As OM said, that is a most beautiful grow--nothing to complain about. Use a lot more spwan and substrate if you want bigger yields. Clone from a cluster of good size fruits if you want larger shrooms.

But your results are quite excellent!

machinelf · 10-04-09, 06:57

Hi thanks for the nice comments! Yeah I am happy with the pinset for sure so no complaints there. But I aim for perfection and my goal is to be able to grow pan.cyanescens in the future and I doubt I will succeed with that under these conditions.

My substrate layer is about 5cm deep. That's the thickest I ever had and I have produced way bigger mushrooms than this but I've mostly been working with B+ which is known for producing big ones too.

Updates: This strain is really amazing. It already started to pin again within two days after I harvested. Do you change your misting pattern after it start to pin? Some people say it will cause more aborts if you mist while pinning but I am not so sure.

MLBjammer · 10-04-09, 07:00

It is better not to mist pins directly, which can cause aborts. You could always inject some sterile water into the sub.

Shroomette · 10-04-09, 07:38

I believe the Thai strain you have there is Thai Pink Buffalo. That grow looks gorgeous. Since, you are dunking there is no need to mist until the sub looks dry. Just let them do there thing. Sending you some great growing vibes on another beautiful harvest and Welcome to Mycotopia.

BuckarooBanzai · 10-04-09, 11:33

That is a very good grow. I would not mist it more. It looks very good.

You can dunk it between flushes. Do not dunk it with lots of new pins.

If you want bigger mushrooms, you need more substrate.

A depth of 3-4 inches (8-10 cm) will make larger mushrooms.

Next time, take all the Perlite out and fill the whole tub with bulk substrate.

machinelf · 10-08-09, 11:57

Ok the second flush is done. I am very pleased with the pin set. Had a few too many aborts, probably due to misting too much. I will dunk it before the third flush and I will not mist it after I see pins this time. Hope for some bigger ones for the later flushes.

I also added another tray. I am very pleased with how the casing layer looks so I hope for a great pin set.

Sidestreet Getaway · 10-08-09, 12:09

Very nice work machinelf. Like BB said, a deeper substrate will give you the size you're looking for, as will a good clone.

Nice name, btw. Is it a Terrence Mckenna reference?

machinelf · 10-08-09, 17:13

Hi sidestreet and thanks. I got the inspiration for my nick from mckennas self-transforming machine elves

eatyualive · 10-08-09, 19:42

excellent!

Shroomette · 10-08-09, 20:02

Excellent job and beautiful flush.

machinelf · 10-16-09, 07:25

Here are some more pics from the first flush of the second tray I added and the third of the first one. Pretty stoked about the results. Best flush I ever got actually. I did some changes. I stopped misting ones I saw pins coming. Definitely think I reduced the number of aborts by doing this. I also found this funky mutant. Hope you enjoy the pics!

MLBjammer · 10-16-09, 07:45

That is very impressive. I find that the less you mess around with a grow, the better it does on the average. Have fun with those fruits!

Peace--Jammer

Om shanti · 10-16-09, 07:45

Perfect once again!! Your results are incredible, especially considering it's only 5 cm deep!! Thanks for sharing!

Dr.Hallucination. · 10-16-09, 10:42

That is a very nice grow machinelf.

copelandiaKidd · 10-16-09, 11:16

Absolutely stunning! I love that squid suction cup mutation! Beautiful grow and welcome to the Topia!

P4ulada · 10-16-09, 11:54

Wow, very impressive man!
Awesome flushs =]

Shroomette · 10-16-09, 12:24

When there is another Picture of the Month I'm nominating the first picture from the last set of Pictures you took, Those are just so amazing and beautiful flushes.

machinelf · 10-17-09, 18:19

Thanks for all the nice comments

GadgetGuy · 10-20-09, 02:53

Those are both outstanding trays. I really like the mutant. Keep up the good work man! Props.

Irishlion · 10-20-09, 03:00

those yellow white spotted caps seems very very reminisent of lipa yai and excellent grow man.

Sidestreet Getaway · 10-20-09, 10:24

Great grow -- I think they like you

Zozo · 10-20-09, 11:07

nice work

peace
zozo

Phx · 10-21-09, 01:15

Definitely a great grow man....if this is from a print not a clone then its almost unbelievable! You must have found then perfect set up for yourself and I would say to keep your grow perimeters exactly where you have them! You have out done yourself almost before you got started!

Faaip De Oaid · 10-21-09, 01:26

i love the Alex Grey posters in the background

kcmoxtractor · 10-21-09, 01:45

That one looks like it has a disease or something, I dunno about mutations...

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10-03-09, 09:32	#1 (permalink)
machinelf Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Thai on popcorn/horse manure, need advice Hi, This is my first post. First of all thanks to all people sharing all the great pictures and knowledge here. Been enjoying this site for awhile in anonymity. Here are some pictures from my latest growth. This is an unknown thai-strain I got from a friend which I have grown on popcorn spawned on horse manure in a 50/50 mix. The casing layer is cactus soil and vermiculite, also 50/50. This is the first time I try hose manure and was expecting bigger mushrooms than before but it turned out I got mostly pinky sized ones. I wonder if you have any idea what might be the cause of this? I myself suspect I don't have enough water for the mycelium to support this many mushrooms in larger size. I didn't mist that much. For the second flush I will try to mist much more and for the third I will dunk. I've always had problems with small capsize. I heard this is due to bad FAE. What can I do to improve this with my current setup? Today I fan manually about 5 times a day and I have some holes with polyfill as you can see on one of the pictures. Should I increase the amount of holes? I am quite poor right now but I intend to add an aquarium bubbler in the future. Any comments on the pin set? This is from a multispore syringe. I will add another tray soon and will update this thread with some more pictures. Attached Thumbnails

10-03-09, 09:39	#2 (permalink)
Om shanti S.W.I.M. in H.POO Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,297	Welcome to Mycotopia! Very nice results IMO. Can't complain about that beautiful pinset. :-) Size - How deep is the substrate? __________________ The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.-S. Suzuki

10-04-09, 07:38	#6 (permalink)
Shroomette Fairy Princess Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,935	I believe the Thai strain you have there is Thai Pink Buffalo. That grow looks gorgeous. Since, you are dunking there is no need to mist until the sub looks dry. Just let them do there thing. Sending you some great growing vibes on another beautiful harvest and Welcome to Mycotopia. __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

10-04-09, 11:33	#7 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	That is a very good grow. I would not mist it more. It looks very good. You can dunk it between flushes. Do not dunk it with lots of new pins. If you want bigger mushrooms, you need more substrate. A depth of 3-4 inches (8-10 cm) will make larger mushrooms. Next time, take all the Perlite out and fill the whole tub with bulk substrate. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

10-03-09, 09:44	#3 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	As OM said, that is a most beautiful grow--nothing to complain about. Use a lot more spwan and substrate if you want bigger yields. Clone from a cluster of good size fruits if you want larger shrooms. But your results are quite excellent!

10-04-09, 06:57	#4 (permalink)
machinelf Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Hi thanks for the nice comments! Yeah I am happy with the pinset for sure so no complaints there. But I aim for perfection and my goal is to be able to grow pan.cyanescens in the future and I doubt I will succeed with that under these conditions. My substrate layer is about 5cm deep. That's the thickest I ever had and I have produced way bigger mushrooms than this but I've mostly been working with B+ which is known for producing big ones too. Updates: This strain is really amazing. It already started to pin again within two days after I harvested. Do you change your misting pattern after it start to pin? Some people say it will cause more aborts if you mist while pinning but I am not so sure.

10-04-09, 07:00	#5 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	It is better not to mist pins directly, which can cause aborts. You could always inject some sterile water into the sub.

10-08-09, 11:57	#8 (permalink)
machinelf Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Ok the second flush is done. I am very pleased with the pin set. Had a few too many aborts, probably due to misting too much. I will dunk it before the third flush and I will not mist it after I see pins this time. Hope for some bigger ones for the later flushes. I also added another tray. I am very pleased with how the casing layer looks so I hope for a great pin set. Attached Thumbnails

10-08-09, 12:09	#9 (permalink)
Sidestreet Getaway Slaptastician Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,319	Very nice work machinelf. Like BB said, a deeper substrate will give you the size you're looking for, as will a good clone. Nice name, btw. Is it a Terrence Mckenna reference?

10-08-09, 17:13	#10 (permalink)
machinelf Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Hi sidestreet and thanks. I got the inspiration for my nick from mckennas self-transforming machine elves

10-08-09, 19:42	#11 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,064	excellent! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

10-08-09, 20:02	#12 (permalink)
Shroomette Fairy Princess Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,935	*Excellent job and beautiful flush.* __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

10-16-09, 07:25	#13 (permalink)
machinelf Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Here are some more pics from the first flush of the second tray I added and the third of the first one. Pretty stoked about the results. Best flush I ever got actually. I did some changes. I stopped misting ones I saw pins coming. Definitely think I reduced the number of aborts by doing this. I also found this funky mutant. Hope you enjoy the pics! Attached Thumbnails

10-16-09, 07:45	#14 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	That is very impressive. I find that the less you mess around with a grow, the better it does on the average. Have fun with those fruits! Peace--Jammer

10-16-09, 10:42	#16 (permalink)
Dr.Hallucination. Chasing the Rabbit. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,818	That is a very nice grow machinelf. __________________ The man who walk's through the door on the wall,Will never be quite the same,As the man who went out.

10-16-09, 11:16	#17 (permalink)
copelandiaKidd Void Of Boundaries Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 578	Absolutely stunning! I love that squid suction cup mutation! Beautiful grow and welcome to the Topia! __________________ "LEARN THE RULES SO YOU CAN BREAK THEM PROPERLY" -The Dali lama "i don't care if it eats my cat, as long as the damn thing fruits"~ prism

10-16-09, 07:45	#15 (permalink)
Om shanti S.W.I.M. in H.POO Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,297	Perfect once again!! Your results are incredible, especially considering it's only 5 cm deep!! Thanks for sharing! __________________ The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.-S. Suzuki

10-16-09, 11:54	#18 (permalink)
P4ulada Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696	Wow, very impressive man! Awesome flushs =]

10-16-09, 12:24	#19 (permalink)
Shroomette Fairy Princess Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,935	*When there is another Picture of the Month I'm nominating the first picture from the last set of Pictures you took, Those are just so amazing and beautiful flushes.* __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

10-17-09, 18:19	#20 (permalink)
machinelf Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10	Thanks for all the nice comments

10-20-09, 02:53	#21 (permalink)
GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,309	Those are both outstanding trays. I really like the mutant. Keep up the good work man! Props. __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

10-20-09, 03:00	#22 (permalink)
Irishlion KEY MASTER Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,343	those yellow white spotted caps seems very very reminisent of lipa yai and excellent grow man. __________________ a man without honor isn't a man at all but, a soul trapped in a flesh body that is lost in a void of its own making

10-20-09, 10:24	#23 (permalink)
Sidestreet Getaway Slaptastician Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,319	Great grow -- I think they like you

10-20-09, 11:07	#24 (permalink)
Zozo The green paladin Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 406	nice work peace zozo __________________ My Grow logs

10-21-09, 01:15	#25 (permalink)
Phx Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 405	Definitely a great grow man....if this is from a print not a clone then its almost unbelievable! You must have found then perfect set up for yourself and I would say to keep your grow perimeters exactly where you have them! You have out done yourself almost before you got started! __________________ Phx

10-21-09, 01:26	#26 (permalink)
Faaip De Oaid Rotten Apple Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 96	i love the Alex Grey posters in the background

10-21-09, 01:45	#27 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	That one looks like it has a disease or something, I dunno about mutations... __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

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