First Bulk Trays, woot!

bozefonce · 10-23-09, 19:55

Foaf is doing his first ever bulk grow. It started with 5 jars of colonized corn, two of which were inoculated with LC clone tissue from a Z strain boomer. One jar went in to each tray (provided from one of Hip's intermediate kits) and spawned to a mix of about 50/30/20 hpoo, coir and verm. The substrate was PC'd for one hour or so and allowed to cool (I know, better to pasteurize, next time we'll get it right) inside the PC, then squeezed out the excess moisture from the pillowcase used inside the PC. Layered a little over an inch of substrate, spread the pint of colonized corn over that surface, then laid another inch plus over top to completely cover the corn. I estimate a depth of about 3 inches. Trays were covered with foil and some holes poked in them. The trays were placed in a sterilite tub that was upside down so that the trays would fit (barely) in the widest part of the tub. This way, the lid is on the table, the trays placed on the lid that was lined with foil and some wet perlite, and the whole thing covered with some towels to incubate. 12 days later, the colonized trays have been opened and covered with the sterilite tub. Hoping for the best!

P4ulada · 10-23-09, 19:58

Bulk rocks! He´ll see =]
Z-strain is very agressive on colonization ^^
Is seems nice, good luck for him, or for her

GadgetGuy · 10-23-09, 20:02

Lookin good man, pins in 7 days for you bro!

bozefonce · 10-23-09, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by GadgetGuy

Lookin good man, pins in 7 days for you bro!

We should start a pool on what day the pins show, lol... the countdown begins!

Quote:

Originally Posted by P4ulada

Bulk rocks! He´ll see =]
Z-strain is very agressive on colonization ^^
Is seems nice, good luck for him, or for her

Obrigado, P4ulada!

eatyualive · 10-23-09, 20:49

looking great so far.

bozefonce · 10-26-09, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by GadgetGuy

Lookin good man, pins in 7 days for you bro!

GG, you came up short, today I count 1 pin in the left tray and 2 pins in the right tray! That's 3 days from exposing them to light and FA.
Pics will follow soon.....
FREAKIN' WOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!

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GadgetGuy · 10-26-09, 20:47

Right on man! That's pretty fast. Can't wait to see the outcome.

tryptaminer · 10-26-09, 21:32

man, that must be a nice feeling!

mydarling · 10-26-09, 21:44

3 days is super fast to see pins. CONGRATS BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

copelandiaKidd · 10-26-09, 22:53

congrats Brother

designlogic · 10-26-09, 23:05

Awesome!

Hope to see a full canopy soon!

bozefonce · 10-27-09, 00:30

Thanks everybody, I'm really stoked. We couldn't have done this without all the support and combined knowledge that this site affords. Everybody here gets a little of the credit. Y'all are great!

MLBjammer · 10-27-09, 06:19

BuckarooBanzai · 10-27-09, 11:38

Congratulations, man! Looking good.

Be sure they are getting plenty of fresh air. I would be fanning those trays 3 times a day, if they were mine...

Shroomette · 10-27-09, 12:15

Fantastic Bozefonce!!! Congrats!

bozefonce · 10-29-09, 22:48

Six days after fruiting we have a pin forest! This is three days after the very first 3 or 4 pins, I'm just freakin' amazed....

Harvest in, what, another 2 or 3? This is unexplored territory for FOAF.

The biggun in the center was pin number one for these trays, he's about 3" tall right now.

Thanks for all the vibes!!

MushroomJoe · 10-29-09, 22:52

Nice! I cant wait to start my next bulk. This is encouraging.

mydarling · 10-29-09, 23:26

great job! yeah, flushes pop up so fast once they start, it's crazy. you wait and wait for pins, then just one lonely pin pops up...... and an hour later, you have 20.... and then 200.... it's an EXPLOSION! i love that. i'd say 3 days max til your harvest. congratulations!

bozefonce · 10-31-09, 00:09

Thanks for all the encouragement, guys. Here are the latest pics, literally one day later and the harvest looks closer and closer.

eatyualive · 10-31-09, 00:14

nice!

P4ulada · 10-31-09, 00:39

only 7 days? great!

Congratz, it looks like a good pinset for me ^^

bozefonce · 11-01-09, 01:23

Came home from work today and FOAF had harvested the one biggest shroom, it weighed 47.25 grams wet. Very nice. Made that baby into the tea for halloween night and drank half and half with him and we went to a great party. First time I've ever tripped shrooms in public. It was pretty fun, 3D haunted house and everything. Now we're back and it looks like the harvest is gonna have to be done tonight. Some of the boomers have already started to drop spores, and others look like they're not far behind. The boomers wait for no man.

Frequency · 11-01-09, 03:18

w00t!

Nice trays! Nice watch too.

bozefonce · 11-01-09, 09:37

The beauty of harvesting your first bulk grow on Halloween night, with a full moon outside the window, cannot be overrated.

Still coming down from the night's trip, FOAF plucked a total of 358.28 wet grams of beautiful Z strain boomer clones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frequency

w00t! Nice trays! Nice watch too.

Thanks Freq, and glad you like the watch, it's one of my favorites. Just a $35 knockoff Hublot, but I love it!

MLBjammer · 11-01-09, 11:36

Nice yield, Boze. I keep looking at your avatar and thinking, "Put some gloves on!" It's just my OCD, lol.

Faaip De Oaid · 11-01-09, 16:56

beautiful. That one guy with the big cap has one fat stem! you should print that

bozefonce · 11-01-09, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MLBjammer

Nice yield, Boze. I keep looking at your avatar and thinking, "Put some gloves on!" It's just my OCD, lol.

Lol... I didn't think it was necessary at that stage to do anything but have clean hands. It's probably good to use gloves when handling poo, but for almost everything else just sanitize with bacterial soap and/or hand sanitizer gel. That was a posed pic anyway, but the harvest was done with bare hands regardless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faaip De Oaid

beautiful. That one guy with the big cap has one fat stem! you should print that

No prints on this flush, it was way too late at night and no energy for being as careful as needed. Maybe next flush, cause these babies are growing quite nicely.

Sidestreet Getaway · 11-01-09, 18:40

Good stuff, boze. Those look pretty heavy. 47 g wet is a pretty big boomer in my book.

mydarling · 11-01-09, 19:02

47 is a biggun, indeed! great haul! and i'm glad to hear you had a nice trip on halloween..woot

so what do you plan to do for the 2nd flush? are you going to dunk the sub?

bozefonce · 11-01-09, 23:05

Thanks you guys, I'm pretty impressed with the results myself. Tonight the cakes were dunked for about 20 minutes each. The sub seemed to soak up quite a bit of moisture, not sure if the time was sufficient, but they definitely weighed more after the dunk than before. There's a lot of coir in there and it looks like it sponged up a lot of water. They're still in the trays at this point. What do you guys think of the supercake method? I've seen where people remove the whole cake from the tray and set it on top of some overturned mason jars so that it can fruit from all sides. Is this a good way to do things and does it really increase yield?

masterplain88 · 11-01-09, 23:23

i did bulks only once(first timer) and did three of them and found the one's with higher hpoo ratio had better colinization and seemed a lil more contam resistant. all of them turned out well fruits from the higher hpoo ratio were bigger and thicker. harvest were a lil heavyer. but flush number was the same tho shrooms in last flush of higher hpoo ratio were bigger.
this could all be do to strain and growing conditons in my cultivation ways but i find the hpoo in my first experiment to do pretty good. my next is just hpoo and coir when i get a chance.
masterplain88

copelandiaKidd · 11-02-09, 11:58

love the watch brother!!!! hehe

bozefonce · 11-05-09, 22:23

The trays have pinned again pretty well, but excess moisture is causing a bit of rot. FOAF has lost about a dozen pins to a sort of black rot that he´s seen before from overwatering some of his cased cakes a while back. He´s allowing for much more frequent FAE and even airing the trays out for 20-30 minutes at a time until it gets back under control. There are still plenty of healthy pins growing but there´s always the danger of losing them because of excess moisture. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this before. Seems like his dunk might have been a bit too much more than enough...

bozefonce · 11-06-09, 07:48

Comin' along, losing about 3 to 10 pins a day to rot so far, but it seems to be slowing down a bit.

P4ulada · 11-06-09, 07:54

Nice flush! They didn´t lost the potency ^^

sagiboy · 11-06-09, 08:21

check this out
http://forums.mycotopia.net/compost-...does-bulk.html (Faht does bulk)

bozefonce · 11-09-09, 21:26

Well, those trays have been thrown out into the garden. The sub had turned dark greenish black in most areas and didn´t look so healthy. I believe it was a bacterial infection as a result of the dunk using tap water. Some have had success using tap water and some have not, so I guess this means that in this area it´s not a good thing to do.

But hey, it´s a learning process. Good start, lousy finish but a good experience nevertheless.

mydarling · 11-09-09, 21:43

sorry to hear that boze

did you get any harvest before you chucked it?

bozefonce · 11-10-09, 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by mydarling

sorry to hear that boze

did you get any harvest before you chucked it?

Salvaged two smallish mushrooms and a few little pins, but not much really. No biggie, it's a matter of finding a safer way to hydrate next time. Thanks for the sympathies

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10-23-09, 19:55	#1 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	First Bulk Trays, woot! Foaf is doing his first ever bulk grow. It started with 5 jars of colonized corn, two of which were inoculated with LC clone tissue from a Z strain boomer. One jar went in to each tray (provided from one of Hip's intermediate kits) and spawned to a mix of about 50/30/20 hpoo, coir and verm. The substrate was PC'd for one hour or so and allowed to cool (I know, better to pasteurize, next time we'll get it right) inside the PC, then squeezed out the excess moisture from the pillowcase used inside the PC. Layered a little over an inch of substrate, spread the pint of colonized corn over that surface, then laid another inch plus over top to completely cover the corn. I estimate a depth of about 3 inches. Trays were covered with foil and some holes poked in them. The trays were placed in a sterilite tub that was upside down so that the trays would fit (barely) in the widest part of the tub. This way, the lid is on the table, the trays placed on the lid that was lined with foil and some wet perlite, and the whole thing covered with some towels to incubate. 12 days later, the colonized trays have been opened and covered with the sterilite tub. Hoping for the best! Attached Thumbnails __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

10-23-09, 19:58	#2 (permalink)
P4ulada Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696	Bulk rocks! He´ll see =] Z-strain is very agressive on colonization ^^ Is seems nice, good luck for him, or for her __________________ *I don´t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.*

10-23-09, 20:02	#3 (permalink)
GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,315	Lookin good man, pins in 7 days for you bro! __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

10-23-09, 20:49	#5 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,064	looking great so far. __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

10-26-09, 20:47	#7 (permalink)
GadgetGuy Stupid Snowboarder... Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,315	Right on man! That's pretty fast. Can't wait to see the outcome. __________________ I have to hold on to the grass or I'll fall off the world!

10-26-09, 21:32	#8 (permalink)
tryptaminer mining for thought Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 93	man, that must be a nice feeling! __________________ Your actions speak so loudly, I can't hear what you're saying.

10-26-09, 21:44	#9 (permalink)
mydarling Modtastic Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,034	3 days is super fast to see pins. CONGRATS BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ tonight your ghost will ask my ghost, who put these bodies between us?

10-26-09, 22:53	#10 (permalink)
copelandiaKidd Void Of Boundaries Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 578	congrats Brother __________________ "LEARN THE RULES SO YOU CAN BREAK THEM PROPERLY" -The Dali lama "i don't care if it eats my cat, as long as the damn thing fruits"~ prism Last edited by Shroomette; 10-27-09 at 12:16. Reason: fixed smileys :)

10-26-09, 23:05	#11 (permalink)
designlogic Researcher Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 267	Awesome! Hope to see a full canopy soon!

10-27-09, 00:30	#12 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	Thanks everybody, I'm really stoked. We couldn't have done this without all the support and combined knowledge that this site affords. Everybody here gets a little of the credit. Y'all are great! __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

10-27-09, 06:19	#13 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864

10-27-09, 11:38	#14 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Congratulations, man! Looking good. Be sure they are getting plenty of fresh air. I would be fanning those trays 3 times a day, if they were mine... __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

10-27-09, 12:15	#15 (permalink)
Shroomette Fairy Princess Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,937	*Fantastic Bozefonce!!! Congrats!* __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

10-29-09, 22:48	#16 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	Six days after fruiting we have a pin forest! This is three days after the very first 3 or 4 pins, I'm just freakin' amazed.... Harvest in, what, another 2 or 3? This is unexplored territory for FOAF. The biggun in the center was pin number one for these trays, he's about 3" tall right now. Thanks for all the vibes!! Attached Thumbnails __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

10-29-09, 22:52	#17 (permalink)
MushroomJoe Mycotechnician Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 235	Nice! I cant wait to start my next bulk. This is encouraging. __________________ "We are a way for the Universe to know itself, we are starstuff contemplating the stars." - Carl Sagan ~Temet Nosce~

10-29-09, 23:26	#18 (permalink)
mydarling Modtastic Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,034	great job! yeah, flushes pop up so fast once they start, it's crazy. you wait and wait for pins, then just one lonely pin pops up...... and an hour later, you have 20.... and then 200.... it's an EXPLOSION! i love that. i'd say 3 days max til your harvest. congratulations! __________________ tonight your ghost will ask my ghost, who put these bodies between us?

10-31-09, 00:09	#19 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	Thanks for all the encouragement, guys. Here are the latest pics, literally one day later and the harvest looks closer and closer. Attached Thumbnails __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

10-31-09, 00:14	#20 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,064	nice! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

10-31-09, 00:39	#21 (permalink)
P4ulada Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696	only 7 days? great! Congratz, it looks like a good pinset for me ^^ __________________ *I don´t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.*

11-01-09, 01:23	#22 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	Came home from work today and FOAF had harvested the one biggest shroom, it weighed 47.25 grams wet. Very nice. Made that baby into the tea for halloween night and drank half and half with him and we went to a great party. First time I've ever tripped shrooms in public. It was pretty fun, 3D haunted house and everything. Now we're back and it looks like the harvest is gonna have to be done tonight. Some of the boomers have already started to drop spores, and others look like they're not far behind. The boomers wait for no man. Attached Thumbnails __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

11-01-09, 03:18	#23 (permalink)
Frequency Code Demon Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 728	w00t! Nice trays! Nice watch too. __________________ Programmer + Psychonaut = Frequency

11-01-09, 11:36	#25 (permalink)
MLBjammer Addicted to Invitro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,864	Nice yield, Boze. I keep looking at your avatar and thinking, "Put some gloves on!" It's just my OCD, lol.

11-01-09, 16:56	#26 (permalink)
Faaip De Oaid Rotten Apple Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 96	beautiful. That one guy with the big cap has one fat stem! you should print that

11-01-09, 18:40	#28 (permalink)
Sidestreet Getaway Slaptastician Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,319	Good stuff, boze. Those look pretty heavy. 47 g wet is a pretty big boomer in my book.

11-01-09, 19:02	#29 (permalink)
mydarling Modtastic Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,034	47 is a biggun, indeed! great haul! and i'm glad to hear you had a nice trip on halloween..woot so what do you plan to do for the 2nd flush? are you going to dunk the sub? __________________ tonight your ghost will ask my ghost, who put these bodies between us?

11-01-09, 23:05	#30 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	Thanks you guys, I'm pretty impressed with the results myself. Tonight the cakes were dunked for about 20 minutes each. The sub seemed to soak up quite a bit of moisture, not sure if the time was sufficient, but they definitely weighed more after the dunk than before. There's a lot of coir in there and it looks like it sponged up a lot of water. They're still in the trays at this point. What do you guys think of the supercake method? I've seen where people remove the whole cake from the tray and set it on top of some overturned mason jars so that it can fruit from all sides. Is this a good way to do things and does it really increase yield? __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

11-01-09, 23:23	#31 (permalink)
masterplain88 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 683	i did bulks only once(first timer) and did three of them and found the one's with higher hpoo ratio had better colinization and seemed a lil more contam resistant. all of them turned out well fruits from the higher hpoo ratio were bigger and thicker. harvest were a lil heavyer. but flush number was the same tho shrooms in last flush of higher hpoo ratio were bigger. this could all be do to strain and growing conditons in my cultivation ways but i find the hpoo in my first experiment to do pretty good. my next is just hpoo and coir when i get a chance. masterplain88

11-02-09, 11:58	#32 (permalink)
copelandiaKidd Void Of Boundaries Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 578	love the watch brother!!!! hehe __________________ "LEARN THE RULES SO YOU CAN BREAK THEM PROPERLY" -The Dali lama "i don't care if it eats my cat, as long as the damn thing fruits"~ prism

11-05-09, 22:23	#33 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	The trays have pinned again pretty well, but excess moisture is causing a bit of rot. FOAF has lost about a dozen pins to a sort of black rot that he´s seen before from overwatering some of his cased cakes a while back. He´s allowing for much more frequent FAE and even airing the trays out for 20-30 minutes at a time until it gets back under control. There are still plenty of healthy pins growing but there´s always the danger of losing them because of excess moisture. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this before. Seems like his dunk might have been a bit too much more than enough... __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

11-06-09, 07:48	#34 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	A few pics, second flush Comin' along, losing about 3 to 10 pins a day to rot so far, but it seems to be slowing down a bit. Attached Thumbnails __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

11-06-09, 07:54	#35 (permalink)
P4ulada Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 696	Nice flush! They didn´t lost the potency ^^ __________________ *I don´t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.*

11-06-09, 08:21	#36 (permalink)
sagiboy -= Magic Passion =- Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 791	tip check this out http://forums.mycotopia.net/compost-...does-bulk.html (Faht does bulk) __________________ "when you don`t know where you going any road will take you there..."

11-09-09, 21:26	#37 (permalink)
bozefonce Ni arte, ni maña Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 287	Well, those trays have been thrown out into the garden. The sub had turned dark greenish black in most areas and didn´t look so healthy. I believe it was a bacterial infection as a result of the dunk using tap water. Some have had success using tap water and some have not, so I guess this means that in this area it´s not a good thing to do. But hey, it´s a learning process. Good start, lousy finish but a good experience nevertheless. __________________ If thoughts are things, then dreams are bigger things…

11-09-09, 21:43	#38 (permalink)
mydarling Modtastic Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,034	sorry to hear that boze did you get any harvest before you chucked it? __________________ tonight your ghost will ask my ghost, who put these bodies between us?