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    View Poll Results: What drug would you NEVER try?
    Opium 43 9.21%
    Heroin 254 54.39%
    Methadon 154 32.98%
    Ether 138 29.55%
    Cocaine 71 15.20%
    Crack 250 53.53%
    Amphetamines [meth] 186 39.83%
    MDMA or extasis 41 8.78%
    LSD 10 2.14%
    Ayahuasca 26 5.57%
    Salvia Divinorum 29 6.21%
    Psilocibe Mushrooms 2 0.43%
    Mescaline 9 1.93%
    Valium / Zanax 47 10.06%
    Viagra 76 16.27%
    datura 180 38.54%
    Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 467. You may not vote on this poll

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    Old 12-13-06, 19:58   #51 (permalink)
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    At the VERY top of my list is PCP. Back in 'the day ' I knew a few dusters, and they went downhill faster that you'd believe. Tried it once, you are OUT of CONTROL and don't give a shit how bad you get banged up.

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    Old 12-13-06, 23:27   #52 (permalink)
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    At the VERY top of my list is PCP. Back in 'the day ' I knew a few dusters, and they went downhill faster that you'd believe. Tried it once, you are OUT of CONTROL and don't give a shit how bad you get banged up.


    Please stop trying to impose your experience on all here. If you did it once you are not even sure of dosage, source, or if someone pissed in it. "Some" can drive on it if forced, so lay off the wives tales.
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    Old 12-15-06, 16:47   #53 (permalink)
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    A MAN HIP! I have been on that train to many times and $$ to even attemt to count! Fucked my like up a couple times. Done for good now, two years ago I did the best I ever did,gettin it dirt cheap (at first).One drug to def stay away from!!
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    Old 12-16-06, 15:02   #54 (permalink)
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    I'm not certain why so many people are afraid of salvia. In my social community, most people try it before cannabis.

    Salvia has many forms though. It's just a leaf that was originally chewed by indigenous peoples for a mild body high. In today's shops, you can buy that salvia, or extracts of the active ingredients in a black powder or sometimes even reprocessed into the leaf. (Is the chemical salvinorum? I forget the name and don't care to look it up. Maybe I'm just combining salvia and divinorum.)

    Anyway, salvia smoked the contemporary way, with a butane torch and 20x extract, produces an intense world-melting experience. It's like an acid trip contained within 2 minutes, and you feel hot and sweaty. I've done salvia over 30 times, experimenting with different extracts and ingesting methods.
    After the 2 minute hallucination, you come down quickly over another 5 minutes, and are back to normal in a full 30.

    Salvia vaporized over a 20 minute period produced a very cannabis-like high. It was so different from smoking salvia at the prerequisite high temperatures, but very peaceful. However, all it did was make my friend uncomfortable, hot, and sweaty.

    That being said, I think salvia is more a novelty than a serious drug. If DMT is considered the businessman's trip, what is salvia? You could be done and back to work within 15 minutes. With a sitter, the drug is incredible.

    However, I've noticed salvia is EXTREMELY unspiritual. You won't decode the cosmos on salvia. It's too short of an experience. Most of my friends go on magic carpet rides to Egypt, or see 6 dimensions. Every time I've done it, everyone turns into a cartoon.


    Thus salvia is more of a fun little novelty than anything serious. Again, with a sitter, all is well.
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    Old 12-16-06, 16:30   #55 (permalink)
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    firstly, i imply nothing. you're agreeing that purity and cleanlyness varies drastically, so surely you see a term like 'street heroin' is a sweeping generalisation.
    I specifically and intentionally used the word "street" heroin to differentiate between pharmaceutical grade heroin, which comes in carefully measured doses. As you've agreed, and as you've agreed that I agree, street heroin purity and cleanliness varies. That IS the point I was making. There is no sweeping generalization here. The sweeping generalization would have been "ALL heroin varies in purity and cleanliness".

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    Secondly, i think u r under the impression i'm arguing for recreational use of opiates. Which i do not.
    So what are you arguing for? I don't even think our positions are so different, yet you accuse me of being emotional and full of preconceived notions. You want some examples of emotional arguments? "Heroin is BAD because junkies are filthy, dirty, disgusting creatures!" Here's another: "Heroin is BAD because heroin killed my best friend!" My arguments were not like this.

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    Secondly, i struggled with opiate addiction for ten years, so you dont have to tell me what it does to you. i know.
    I'm very glad to hear it! Tell me please, why don't you struggle with it anymore? If you have stopped using opiates recreationally, do you have any "objective" reasons for doing so?

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    Once again i'll say it, you have to detech yourself from emotion or pre-concieved notions IMHO.
    Then again, we could simply agree to disgaree. That always works for me.
    I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree, because I honestly don't know what emotions you think I need to detach from. The only thing I can gather is that by emotion, you mean "any conclusion that differs from your own" and by objectivity, you mean "any conclusion that agrees with your own". It's very hard to beat logic like that.
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    Old 12-16-06, 17:29   #56 (permalink)
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    Hey, Lefty, sorry if I offended you. My opinion's based on admittedly limited personal experience, but I've watched some decent poeple crash and burn when they got into dust. This poll is about opinion, and because of what I've seen I have no intention of becoming more experienced.

    My best friend drove his car into the office of his employer, then, convinced he was aided by Jesus and could walk on water, took a dip in the north Atlantic in late December.

    That's not a wives tale, my friend. And this guy was quite familiar with dosage and effects. It just turned around and bit him in the ass. Not all horror stories of drugs are fabricated.

    I'm sure that 'some' can 'drive on it if forced". But some freak out and do crazy shit. Having seen the dark side, I'm not going to take the chance. I'm twisted enough as it is.
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    Old 12-16-06, 21:10   #57 (permalink)
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    Set & setting, once again. And it don't take much for a full blown freak out that ends in the hospital w/a cop @ the door.
    I don't suggest driving on it, but when a friend is reading the Constitution at the very top of his lungs around 3 am to the rest of his townhouse development after a religioius discussion (on that shit, sudden strong opinions on religion seem to often proceed a freak out) and the dog told your friend you both should leave I suggest you bail while it's still possible.
    I guess it's like some other hard drugs, one should know what might happen before deciding to do it anyway.
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    Old 12-16-06, 22:53   #58 (permalink)
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    street meth i wont try.... i love me some good clean pharmy speed tho... drink and fuck all nite. everything else there ive tried, except datura... another i want nothing to do with. crack/coke and dope were fun for a while but i pushed it to the very furthest edge i could walk back whole from and don't seek them out anymore. not that i wouldn't hesitate to blow a few lines of either. im not too into sampling random rc;s anymore though, there are too many wierd one's (dipt, foxy methoxy for the lack of the proper nomencalture). never tried viagra, would be down if i could score some though. =D oh and i didnt see nitrous on there, but i coulda missed it. whelp, take care folks.
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    Old 12-17-06, 01:33   #59 (permalink)
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    always thought that H via injection in anything other than a medical environment for medical purposes would be a bad idea for me. if the mild opiates i've had were enjoyed sooooo much, then having access to and trying H would be a very bad thing. guess what! i've got a new hobby! i'm a smack-heap!

    PCP is on my list of no-nos. so's crack. i do wonder what crack smells like, though.
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    Old 12-17-06, 02:02   #60 (permalink)
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    i've done coke all 3 ways,
    snorted, IV injected and i've smoked crack.
    several times, many grams over the years.
    started before there ever was crack,
    went thru the 'freebase' phase too.
    [same as crack different name]
    the rush is a bit different
    but that's because of the speed and intensity,
    you can get more much and more quickly
    smoking crack or injecting
    so it's more intense.

    Damn Hip, wtf aren't you teaching kids about drugs and drug use instead of whatever bullshit videos they pump the little ones with these days?!
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    Old 12-17-06, 02:07   #61 (permalink)
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    A friend shared some adderall pills with me last week in the middle of finals week. Shit fucked me up, i was racing all over the place at work, sweating like a beast too i might add. The stuff really dehydrated me, I just couldn't keep up.
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    Old 12-17-06, 02:40   #62 (permalink)
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    not really.
    cocaine is cocaine.
    it does not enter the bloodstream/brain as a different drug
    just because of how it was taken.
    the delivery in smoking is faster than snorting
    but not faster than injection.
    about the only people that make a distinction are the piggies
    crack is more harshly punished than powder,
    but not because it is somehow worse-
    it's because powder is favored by white people
    while crack is favored by blacks.
    that's a generalization, of course, there are exceptions.
    nevertheless up in hollywood hills
    they snort their powdered cocaine on silver mirrors
    and face much less time in prison
    than the poor down in the ghettos
    hitting their crack pipes do.
    Hey hippie I thought the main reason that you got a heavier charge is because you've taken an already illegal substance and maufactured it, in that you've made it more pure by cooking the cut out of it. But you are right cocaine is cocaine any way you look at it
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    Old 12-17-06, 23:26   #63 (permalink)
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    Hey hippie I thought the main reason that you got a heavier charge is because you've taken an already illegal substance and maufactured it, in that you've made it more pure by cooking the cut out of it. But you are right cocaine is cocaine any way you look at it

    Nope, if anything, crack would have more cutting agents in it, being as you need some extraneous base to make a solid "rock". The exact formula is somewhere on erowid, and if I remember correctly, you need some kind of ether in the cooking process to solidify it. It's entirely logical to assume 'cooking' means burning up the cut, but it isn't really the case. Purity is more detirmined by the independant dealer than by the prep process. That's why a gram of crack is so much less, $$-wise, than a gram of any kind of snow, pure or not. That's just my two cents though, and I'm not quite worth my salt when it comes to this kind of info.
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    Old 02-03-07, 23:51   #64 (permalink)
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    im sure most who have fallen to the disgraceful pits of addiction caried on my drugs such as heroin and crack have said they would never try it b. I said it, and ive gone on a heroin binge only a month or two ago. I freaked myself out and havnt touched it since, but the point is although u may have voted for a certsain drug in this poll, you never really know wat you'll end up doing. I think this is an exetremely interesting flaw (or watever the fuck u wanna call it) in the fucked up mentality and personality of human beings as we know it. And fuck xanax too, thats a fucking life eater. in fact, fuck all drugs that dont make u hallucinate. ide sit in isolation, with 36 tabs in my mouth before i ever touch these stupid drugs. and by the way, to whoever is interested in heroin or coke or anything like that, its overrated and u never leave off on a good note. stick to the good shit.
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    Old 02-04-07, 01:00   #65 (permalink)
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    Datura.

    Salvia is cool, but i don't know why it takes about 1 hour to come down with me. Including visuals, sedation and a strange dreamstate. And about 3 hours to the sedation stops and brain back to normal life.

    Also, if i eat 3g of mushrooms i forget who the hell am i.

    Also, i have intense closed eye visuals with cannabis.

    Am I weird?
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    Old 02-04-07, 01:03   #66 (permalink)
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    well i didnt vote cuz ive tried them all !

    adrenalchrome sounds pretty scary to me but ive never known anyone to have it !
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    Old 02-04-07, 02:50   #67 (permalink)
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    Datura.

    Salvia is cool, but i don't know why it takes about 1 hour to come down with me. Including visuals, sedation and a strange dreamstate. And about 3 hours to the sedation stops and brain back to normal life.

    Also, if i eat 3g of mushrooms i forget who the hell am i.

    Also, i have intense closed eye visuals with cannabis.

    Am I weird?

    Not weird, lucky . I voted I would never try crack on this poll, but I now have, I smoked some coco puffs, twice, and I must say, never touching the shit again. First 30 minutes was fun, last 3 hours was horrible. Don't touch crack kids.
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    Old 02-04-07, 15:51   #68 (permalink)
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    how do u do the clean up lefty? im in the middle of nowhere so everything is cut to high hell.
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    Old 02-05-07, 18:11   #69 (permalink)
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    nevermind, i done figgered it out. pretty simple, almost the same as with poor quality yayo.
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    Old 02-05-07, 20:19   #70 (permalink)
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    hmmm wonder why no one said mushrooms

    where can i get some viagra at??

    i hate cocaine, fucking hate it, mainly because i have to deal with friends that do it. and we can't go eat or go do anything because they dont have the money.. except for cocaine

    i hate opiates too. (they didnt give me enough morphine when i was in the hospital with a broke arm, and i could have done without til i got the anesthetic) I disagree with people that abuse them when they aren't in pain

    these two seem to be the most annoying
    of those listed
    and i voted for meth, because ive tried all the other ones
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    Wow, good poll man. This has elicited some very strong feelings (way stronger than I would have imagined).

    Personally, I can't put heroin in my arm, 'cause I can't control myself in terms of doing more. I like snorting it (though I prefer oxycontin or roxycodone).

    I have no insane hatred or strong feelings about damning it as a substance, though. Heroin is a damned good high - too good for most people, in fact. But I've known a couple of folks over the years who had no trouble whatsoever banging 2 or 3 days in a row and then dropping it stone cold for a couple weeks.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: there are no bad trips, only bad trippers. Drugs are neither good nor evil. They are only substances and as such don't have the inherent capacity for goodness or badness.

    And I'll tell you straight out, I LIKE PCP. Done it at least a hundred times. Never killed anybody, never freaked out and ended up in a dust ward - though I have an acquaintance from HS who has no feeling from the neck down because he ate way too much and dove into a 1/2 empty pool in December.

    But hey, he was an idiot to begin with. Natural selection was bound to cull him sooner or later. Truth is, I'm kind of glad it happened before he spawned another generation of mouth breathers.

    It is really weird to hear people on a drug related board dissing certain drugs while praising others. Humans are weirder than shit.

    I like it. Please continue.

    Oh, and ether isn't required to make crack. All you need is some cocaine, water, baking soda, a spoon and a candle.
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    Old 02-07-07, 13:37   #72 (permalink)
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    I really want to try some Ketamine and some "2c" drugs.
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    Old 02-12-07, 12:41   #73 (permalink)
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    Meth seems more spooky then herion

    And dident crack come from coke? i know there related in some way i think
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    Old 02-12-07, 13:42   #74 (permalink)
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    lol.....I don't wanna say that Meth is good for ya,But I have used it for aboud 15 years now,and I'm still very healthy...it's just how you use it (that counts for every drug) !
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    Old 02-12-07, 19:25   #75 (permalink)
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    wow cake. u know a good chef or something? i remember meeting some tweekers in montana and they kept talking about "peanut butter meth" and saying it was the shit... some kinda goopy brown shit i think. that cannot be, in any sense of the word, pure. i like small doses of amphetamines while partying, but since i was forced to take massive doses of ritalin, adderral, and other psychostimulants for my ADD as a child i am disincline to enjoy a good speed buzz. as many have said before it's not the drug, it's the user. guns don't kill people, people kill people. I happen to be the guy who can blow opiates for a week or two then not touch it fer months. i dunno if i could shoot because i already like it too much, plus needles for me seems to tie in with a self mutilation kick... at least judging from some of the junkies i know. it is really interesting what people get down on and what they hate. media portrayals, insufficient info/experience, and the like have turned even relatively concious drug users against certain drugs. although, i would say that more meth, crack/coke, and heroin abusers land themselves in jail due to a greater physical/psychologial need for the drug, coupled with race/poverty. hrm. actually, i just found some good base in my neck of the woods so im off to have a merry old time. just me and my crackpipe. woo hoo. its been too long, stemmie. flick flick woosh. on a side not i just learned how to say smoke crack in sign language. maybe ill make a video.
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    Old 02-21-07, 21:43   #76 (permalink)
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    ether. there are others i dont plan on trying, like crack. but ive said i would never try quite a few drugs, and my mind has drastically changed over the years. but ether is one thing i pretty much an sure i would not try. that and other inhalants like cleaners, gasoline, etc.
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    It is really weird to hear people on a drug related board dissing certain drugs while praising others. Humans are weirder than shit.
    haha, you crack me up man!

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    Oh, and ether isn't required to make crack. All you need is some cocaine, water, baking soda, a spoon and a candle.
    I have a cousin that can't cook food worth a shit. I mean, he'd make soup tough. But give him a spoon, cocaine, little moisture, a flame, and he swears he's a five star master chef ...
    lol
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    none of it is true. its all bullshit put out by the us dea. before anyone disagrees with me, be prepared to cite at least one single scientific study or peer reviewed study. to my knowledge they dont exist. BTW "X" dosnt cause brain damage or parkinsons either. nor does LSD cause chromosome damage. all bullshit.

    " The drug Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA, or "ecstasy") stimulates the release of dopamine at low doses. At higher doses it also stimulates serotonin synapses, producing halucinogenic effects similar to those of lsd. Unfortunatly MDMA not only stimulates axons that release dopamine and serotonin, it also destroys them (McCann, Lowe & Ricaurte, 1997)"

    Thats my citation, which I can come up with more, but being that I am pulling them out of text books, I have to type it all out. I wish I could get my scanner working, so I could show you what a brain looks like after having recreational doses of MDMA repeated in lab studies. Serotonin receptors are the biggest give away of neurological damage.

    I personally don't advocate any recreational drugs. They are not only dangerous to a very sensitive nervous system, but the craving of a drug to make you feel good only shows that there is a subconscious "need" to self-medicate, and therefore people can deny being sick because the sickness is not apparent. Most people don't know they are sick, but if they stopped taking recreational drugs, and cut off other external sources of pleasure, (tv, fast food, one night stands, various hobbies to keep the mind preoccupied with external stimulation to distract one from the contents of thier everyday mind) thier mental illness would come to the surface. The problem there is that people then blame enviormental circumstances (a self defense mechanism of the ego) to justify returning to the indulging lifestyle.

    After having to do a paper on Joseph Campbell for a world religions class, I have seen how we are moving from humanity to idiocracy. Our ancestors would be initiated into manhood through insanity. This type of intitiation is very important to a developing mind. Without it, we may never actually reach manhood. Now that we are living in the comfort zone, we get initiated into manhood through hedonistic rituals such as sex and booze. Without the mind being challenged by reality through self initiated psychosis, multiple parts of the mind atrophy and we get stuck with middle aged men that never develope the ability to cope with stressful situations (panic attacks) that manifest from time to time in thier life.


    I only use Mushrooms and Marijuana for the most part. Not because they make me feel good (because they deffinitly don't) but because they challenge my mind, and anything else would be dull and pointless.

    I stand by these bold claims and generalizations due to common sense and an overwhelming amount of literature on this topic.
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