What is God? - Page 3

~Hippie3 · 03-27-07, 16:09

good weed is a gift from god.

fahtster · 03-28-07, 13:46

I am god and we/me are in "heaven" right now as I see it... even writing this post is redundant and unnecessary. the greatest idea ever thought up need not even be spoken. not in heaven you say? your heaven consists of your bias towards feeling good. my heaven incorporates ALL... good, bad, evil, love, hate, sad, bad, torchure, ecstasy, patience, contempt and so on and so on... wasn't it david byrne that said "nothing ever happens in heaven." And the sad part is, that place that everyone calls "heaven" where all good things happen and you always get what you want exists here in this world and it goes unused by so many... we go there everytime we sleep. anything you could ever want exists there.... Lucid dreaming should be taught in all schools as soon as possible and should be common knowledge.... can you imagine if everyone was able to get what they wanted everyday? you would wake up needing nor wanting very little = happiness. all I see and feel and hear and touch are extensions of myself, light as it may be... we live in the belly of "god" living out every possibility we can come up with. I've always been here and will never leave and I'm very happy about that. You are ME. I am you and will always treat you as such. ultimately I, as well as you, know exactly what I'm doing here... I just don't let the part of me that doesn't want to know, know. simply put.. it would bore me. the key to existence is "not knowing" which is as stated an illusion. I am the earth.. the endless sky is but a reflection of my endless possibilities. What if our job on this rock was to bring all the carbon back to the surface of the earth so it can start again? it seems ridiculous, I know... most will say, but what about all the suffering? does it matter in the end? no. I will suffer and have and will accept it. suffering is but another thread in the perfect blanket... and does it even matter if I'm not the one suffering? no. Life is not cruel and pain doesn't transfer... it's all just light and god only has two eyes... mine. theres only one story and I'm the storyteller. that all may sound cold and self-centered and you're damn right it is... BUT remember, " You are ME. I am YOU and will always treat you as such"

it may sound like I think I know it all and you're right I do... everything in this world that we/I and everything else creates are but mimics of our own bodily functions and thought. we cannot produce something that we don't already know. learning and enlightenment are interchangeable. whats more fun, watching a movie for the first time or already knowing whats going to happen? the problem of free will is easily solved by simply placing an equals sign.... god = Me... god will IS my will.

faht

Sunstar · 03-28-07, 22:45

Wow thats deep Fhat. I think the Beatles stated it perfectly when they said " I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_IjETAddhs

TVCasualty · 03-29-07, 10:17

I've also thought of God as the "=" sign in E=mc^2.

"Heaven is just like where you are right now except much, much better."
-Laurie Anderson

livewire420 · 11-11-07, 12:25

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Originally Posted by siam_jim

i might get wrath on this one. i do not believe in any gods. thinking back to when was the god(s) came to be is very interesting. during the caveman era there weren't no gods. gods to me was invented from fear,hope and the desire to explain the unexplainable. from giant storms to sudden death. i see people talking to gods but after 2000+ years wouldn't you think the gods would at lease make 1 appearence? NO.
also i see people use gods to keep others in line in knowing what is right from wrong. like i don't know. and i wonder why is it the good die young and the bad seems to live longer and at time better? just my thoughts.

siam

im with what he said

Ras Asad · 11-11-07, 12:41

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Sunstar:
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together"

what a statment eh.

You are god, I am god, this cannabis flower in front of me is god, the tree I sit against when I feel like shit is god, the mushrroms that grow under it after it rains is god, the stars you see when you look up at night are god, etc..... lol
I find it funny when people say "He" will make bad things happen, or "He" wont be happy if you do that, or "He" is always watching you.... I say hogwash. Shit happens to good people, shit happens to bad people, good people die early, the bad ones seem to live longest..... where is "He" for those fawks.
shit .
GAIA is GOD~~~~~~~ we are simply just god.

We seem to do a good job at destroying and killing each other and everything else thats been given life............ why do we need 'god' when it seems that our favorite thing to do is play god ourselves.
Ras

Sunstar · 11-11-07, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Ras Asad

good people die early,
Ras

So the big question is what happens then.

Ras Asad · 11-11-07, 13:58

The answer is I dunno.......

but it seems more times than not, (possibly just in my head) that its usually the best ones who die early...... and not to say the others who dont die young are bad.. but it seems the most influential, most helpful, most powerful, most benevolent people .. are the ones who are with us a short time and then perish........

I had a thought one day... that the phrase "hell on earth" made me think of..... that maybe they (who die young) are being rewarded maybe??? Like theyve done so much for people, in one way or another, that they get to 'leave' early... they dont get so old that their bodily functions shut down and they cant do anything for themselves......... they have no more pain, witness no more killing, hate, war, poverty, etc.........
I feel that maybe , they did what they were meant to , whatever that may be..and got to leave class early for good behavior...........

and onto whatever it is thats next...........

Jus an herb induced thought one day. lol
Bless

spacecake · 11-11-07, 14:13

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Originally Posted by Ras Asad

The answer is I dunno.......

but it seems more times than not, (possibly just in my head) that its usually the best ones who die early...... and not to say the others who dont die young are bad.. but it seems the most influential, most helpful, most powerful, most benevolent people .. are the ones who are with us a short time and then perish........

I had a thought one day... that the phrase "hell on earth" made me think of..... that maybe they (who die young) are being rewarded maybe??? Like theyve done so much for people, in one way or another, that they get to 'leave' early... they dont get so old that their bodily functions shut down and they cant do anything for themselves......... they have no more pain, witness no more killing, hate, war, poverty, etc.........
I feel that maybe , they did what they were meant to , whatever that may be..and got to leave class early for good behavior...........

and onto whatever it is thats next...........

Jus an herb induced thought one day. lol
Bless

What aboud there familie they leave behind,are they punished then ?
I think your wrong here...

rocketman · 11-11-07, 14:40

I dont think ive ever died, although i cannot prove to you or even myself i am not in a death state now. dead by definition no, but maybe status, which is actually another aspect of life.
Conception may be deeper than a sperm and an egg. Maybe its also a spiritual connection allowing us to die from our past and be reborn anew. Dying has such negative connotations, when it could be the best thing that ever happens to us. Not trying to make light of how our families would feel without us, because that is real pain.
Nobody knows about god. We just know about life, and not to any great extent mind you. you know, all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be. We could very well be a thought god had. A flashing energy to be and then dissipate into the nothingness. We could be a thought by god that is eternal, as we are all part of god, making us god in a way.
If you say you know, you dont. I know that much about life. Not much else. but really i dont.
I do know its nice to help others. I do know it causes me joy to ease suffering. I would be lying if I say I havent received joy by causing someones pain. I have evolved past that, at least by the standards of how much I will take, and what it will take to get me to cause another true pain. Like someone hurting my family for example, or trying to hurt me physically.

This has all been mental masturbation. I talked about life death god and nothing at all. I just had a funny thought:

what if indeed we are god, at our mental capacities/evolutionary stage with complete control over anything and everything, not knowing how to use it all yet, or even an iotas worth. we are fucked, and in for a long long evolutionary ride.

Ras Asad · 11-11-07, 14:42

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What aboud there familie they leave behind,are they punished then ?
I think your wrong here...
__________________

I may be, most likely I am, Just sharing a thought.
But when you come down to it, your family is your family.....
I dont think family is something that should keep you here as long as they just because it would cause them grief.......If we are meant to go, then we go, regardless of what happens after, grief, sadness, pain...
tis part of life and death...

Ras Asad · 11-11-07, 14:45

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Originally Posted by rocketman

I dont think ive ever died, although i cannot prove to you or even myself i am not in a death state now. dead by definition no, but maybe status, which is actually another aspect of life.
Conception may be deeper than a sperm and an egg. Maybe its also a spiritual connection allowing us to die from our past and be reborn anew. Dying has such negative connotations, when it could be the best thing that ever happens to us. Not trying to make light of how our families would feel without us, because that is real pain.
Nobody knows about god. We just know about life, and not to any great extent mind you. you know, all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be. We could very well be a thought god had. A flashing energy to be and then dissipate into the nothingness. We could be a thought by god that is eternal, as we are all part of god, making us god in a way.
If you say you know, you dont. I know that much about life. Not much else. but really i dont.
I do know its nice to help others. I do know it causes me joy to ease suffering. I would be lying if I say I havent received joy by causing someones pain. I have evolved past that, at least by the standards of how much I will take, and what it will take to get me to cause another true pain. Like someone hurting my family for example, or trying to hurt me physically.

This has all been mental masturbation. I talked about life death god and nothing at all. I just had a funny thought:

what if indeed we are god, at our mental capacities/evolutionary stage with complete control over anything and everything, not knowing how to use it all yet, or even an iotas worth. we are fucked, and in for a long long evolutionary ride.

niiice bro

HepacatBioclass100 · 11-11-07, 15:05

I believe in God! Absolutely! No Doubts at all! I am convinced.Please don't get me started on, "Why".Peace.

Ras Asad · 11-11-07, 15:08

lol. No prob.

HepacatBioclass100 · 11-11-07, 15:41

The Universe is a big place and a God as Great as he was and still is, had many more adventures to tend to. I believe that the power of his DNA is yet to be witnessed here on planet Earth. I believe God is still making Gardens out there. Peace

moggggys · 11-11-07, 19:00

not met the fella yet , ask me when im dead

ello ras

Ras Asad · 11-11-07, 19:08

hello mogggys bro. How are ya??? Its good to see you man.

see ya around I hope mate. Bless

camo · 11-12-07, 22:26

god is much life...god..to me is above and below..the whole thing with the as above so below at the same kind of idea time.god being god. and the whole only the good die young thing..i dont really get you guys..pain and evil are here so we can stay intune with our souls..im shure there are a million good guys and galls that will die of old old age that you will never meet...but good try...ill live to a pretty old age..am i evil? nope. and the rest are they evil..prolly not..there just in tune with there body..and god..love to us all

Ras Asad · 11-12-07, 23:41

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..im shure there are a million good guys and galls that will die of old old age that you will never meet...but good try...ill live to a pretty old age..am i evil? nope.

hence why I said...

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and not to say the others who dont die young are bad..

the "good die young thing" was my comment no one elses bro...

I feel you.
Blessings

ShroomGuerilla · 11-14-07, 11:56

Science is my God.

Existence. From the dust floating around your room to trees, rocks, animals, germs, humans of all types - racists, rapists, lovers and saints. All of this is God.

Personally, if someone were to prove that the typical omnipotent Christian God exists, I would hate him. The god in the bible is a terrible judgmental prick, killing off populations of people, animals when he gets pissed. Killing firstborns, turning water into blood (not good for the fish i suppose), and a list of other heinous shit all because the Pharaoh was being a dick. As the all-powerful all-knowing being god would be he could make existence "heavenly" 24/7. Instead famine, starvation, rape, war, murder etc.. go on with no intervention. With the snap of his fingers "God" could eliminate all the bullshit of the world. Instead he sit over us, like we are in a snowglobe, watching his sick little experiment of "free will" take place. I dont want to be a lab rat, if hell exists - i rather go there. Maybe i will be in the darklords good graces for hating god.

Either way, being an atheist, i don't believe in that crap. Sorry for the rant....

But if for some strange reason Mr. Judgmental God exists....Fuck him.

Sorry for offending anyone, personal views aren't always candyland happy.

-SG

HedgeWitch · 09-15-08, 20:30

God is the thing that we cannot create in labs.
Life itself. The spark. God is my dog and god is what happens after it rains.
Yes I'm a hippie despite the fact that most "norms" assume I'm a Satanist
based on looks alone.
God is the life force. You're God.

Ras Asad · 09-16-08, 00:50

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Originally Posted by HedgeWitch

God is the thing that we cannot create in labs.
Life itself. The spark. God is my dog and god is what happens after it rains.
Yes I'm a hippie despite the fact that most "norms" assume I'm a Satanist
based on looks alone.
God is the life force. You're God.

Mario · 09-16-08, 11:33

God is patient, kind, he doesn't envy anyone, or boast about his awesome power, he isn't proud or rude, he doesn't seek to please himself but gives us the choice to please him if we so choose, he isn't easily angered, he dosn't keep a record of wrongdoing but loves it when you confess your wrongs, he's not amused by the worship of other deities, or materialism, or when people use his name with bad intentions. He wants you to take a day off every week from your daily routine. He wants children to obey their parents, no matter what. He wants you to liberate yourself from violence, lust, theft, lies, and wishes that you'd be happy with what you have, and not look covetously at the belongings of others.

Where two people, or more, are gathered together in celebration of these values, between them there is God.

The Beatles quote touches on this, however, the people making up God have to be one in the spirit of God.

You know you're one with the spirit if you portray these attributes, or "fruits" of the spirit.

The fruits of the spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control.

chrisandstepheny · 09-16-08, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Outer

nm ..NO comment, its wierd i dont believe but if i talk shit bout him i feel like something bad is gonna happen.

That's just normal paranoia, everyone in the universe has it.

steeq · 09-16-08, 17:05

God is everything that you want or need him/her/it to be. God is different to us all because we all have different wants and needs. He fills in the gaps of the image that we portay and who we truly are.

eatyualive · 09-17-08, 10:19

god is everything. we just call it that. god.

the universe is god!

xenosapience · 10-25-08, 16:42

god can't be talked about.

language & communication is but a part of god, and a part cannot encompass the whole.

trying to discuss it will only further veil the truth.

chimp · 10-25-08, 16:45

Language is embedded in consciousness. It's what we have. Talking and language are two distinct, separate things.

Jordan86 · 10-25-08, 18:24

I like to see god as the force that allows all of this to happen and what binds us all together as one. We are an aspect of this universe we are an aspect of this god. god is everything, and we are a part of this everything. There is no god as an individual, everything is god. god is just the force and the substance that is everything and holds everything into being and there is nothing that is separate or not god.

I don't see god as an individual entity that is somehow all outside of this and everything else is his creation that is separate from god. I don't god as being a separate thing that sits and judges his creation, his creation being something outside of god. I just don't see that at all. I don't see god as an individual separate thing that can be pleased or displeased by his individual separate creation that is considered somehow not a part of god.

Worshiping an "idol" is the same thing as worshiping Jesus because both the Idol and Jesus are equally god as well as the dirt on the ground and the ham sandwich in your mouth. All of it just being part of the all encompassing god. Nothing could be separate or not god.

KingKanibalKiller · 10-25-08, 20:22

Dude im God!

chimp · 10-25-08, 20:25

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Originally Posted by KingKanibalKiller

Dude im God!

Amen..hehe

bobdolerson · 10-25-08, 20:39

If God the being exists, there is no way for us to understand what/who/how/where/when he/she/it exists.

I don't know how time plays out, or what time even is, but in the way we perceive it, i've come to understand that we cannot know anything.

We can believe everything, but the things holding the universe together were here before us, and will be here after us, and the only reason we think anything happens as it does is because it has as long as we can remember.

You don't know when you drop a marble that it will hit the ground, you only think it will because your experiences as of yet have shown it to be likely, but you'll never know until it happens.

That being said, I will never know anything about God, and cannot even make inferences about his/hers/its character because i don't even have perceptual knowledge of God. Just my ideas.

I see no purpose in the search for God, as it will only end with you dying and still not knowing for sure. It shouldn't matter anyway. Live your life in such a way to make what you can perceive better for you and other people that experience it. On our death beds, all we'll have is what we've experienced, no knowledge.

My two cents.

xenosapience · 10-26-08, 00:55

don't think of god as a "being."

bobdolerson · 10-26-08, 01:02

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Originally Posted by xenosapience

don't think of god as a "being."

Lemme rephrase. If God exists....

kr0nah0lic · 11-06-08, 17:24

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I am god and we/me are in "heaven" right now as I see it... even writing this post is redundant and unnecessary. the greatest idea ever thought up need not even be spoken. not in heaven you say? your heaven consists of your bias towards feeling good. my heaven incorporates ALL... good, bad, evil, love, hate, sad, bad, torchure, ecstasy, patience, contempt and so on and so on... wasn't it david byrne that said "nothing ever happens in heaven." And the sad part is, that place that everyone calls "heaven" where all good things happen and you always get what you want exists here in this world and it goes unused by so many... we go there everytime we sleep. anything you could ever want exists there.... Lucid dreaming should be taught in all schools as soon as possible and should be common knowledge.... can you imagine if everyone was able to get what they wanted everyday? you would wake up needing nor wanting very little = happiness. all I see and feel and hear and touch are extensions of myself, light as it may be... we live in the belly of "god" living out every possibility we can come up with. I've always been here and will never leave and I'm very happy about that. You are ME. I am you and will always treat you as such. ultimately I, as well as you, know exactly what I'm doing here... I just don't let the part of me that doesn't want to know, know. simply put.. it would bore me. the key to existence is "not knowing" which is as stated an illusion. I am the earth.. the endless sky is but a reflection of my endless possibilities. What if our job on this rock was to bring all the carbon back to the surface of the earth so it can start again? it seems ridiculous, I know... most will say, but what about all the suffering? does it matter in the end? no. I will suffer and have and will accept it. suffering is but another thread in the perfect blanket... and does it even matter if I'm not the one suffering? no. Life is not cruel and pain doesn't transfer... it's all just light and god only has two eyes... mine. theres only one story and I'm the storyteller. that all may sound cold and self-centered and you're damn right it is... BUT remember, " You are ME. I am YOU and will always treat you as such"

it may sound like I think I know it all and you're right I do... everything in this world that we/I and everything else creates are but mimics of our own bodily functions and thought. we cannot produce something that we don't already know. learning and enlightenment are interchangeable. whats more fun, watching a movie for the first time or already knowing whats going to happen? the problem of free will is easily solved by simply placing an equals sign.... god = Me... god will IS my will.

faht

fahtster took the words right out of me. My will is gods will and gods will is mine. God is life and life is god. The good and the bad.

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"when the power of love overcomes the love of power, the earth will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Diego · 11-06-08, 19:26

If something cannot appear from nowhere.
Then from where did the universe came from?
A contradiction?

The universe is chaos and is not. It is whatever it is.
But to claim only human intelligence can come up with
things is not for me.

Even because we do not create, we just understand and
transform things that are already here for us.

kr0nah0lic · 11-07-08, 01:55

so we have been given the power of manipulation. to use in favor for or against ourselves and others, in our environment. we do not create something from nothing i agree but we have been given the ability to destroy. destroy that which was created... If we have been given the choice to destroy or embrace that in which we are apart of doesnt that make us creators? creators of our future.

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"when the power of love overcomes the love of power, the earth will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix

We dont create or control the cards we are dealt but the cards dont play themselves. The game cannot be played without the players and the players choose how to play. respectively there are rules to the game a player must play by.

i.p.freely · 11-07-08, 02:13

allot of humans may feel as if they are the most important beings on this planet. ok. well, what about the planet itself ??

do u not think this a logically thinking organism ?

if u do...what are it's goals ?

well...what are our natural goals?

to eat...

to drink from the earth...

to procreate...

to die...

some others...we all hold dear i'm sure...

well...what if the earth, itself; had the same goals...

what if one of those goals was to procreate...

what would it need to inpregnate a surrounding planet...

a rocket perhaps ???

Diego · 11-07-08, 08:26

Bad things are as necessary as good ones, if the earth was an eden and something really bad happened no one would have the guts to stop it.

The same applies to a tribal village, if they are too much good, the bad ones will always come and kill them. There must be balance. And the balance is here, so the world is very fine as it is right now.

dascylus · 12-09-08, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Hippie3

i am god so pretty hard not to believe.

I am a solipsistic bastard, I have to agree. Perception is reality. Just be scared... If I die I take you all with me.

My first post is about "god"........ Damn forums.

squizzlix · 12-09-08, 15:05

god is information.
thoughts,
beercans,
people,
dust mites,
appearance of time,
rain,
ballistic missiles,
martian landscape,
grocery bags,
sound of trees falling in forests with no one there to hear it,
etc...
all things received by our 6 senses,
including those senses are god.
or so i believe.

mycpooper · 12-10-08, 15:59

no one can say were from god or god made us because nobody has met god or talked to him. We perceive a god as someone above us that we have no control over and has control over us. here's something to ponder...... god=good and evil=devil. this debate was made up by man thousands of yrs ago to keep people from rebelling etc.

eatyualive · 12-15-08, 09:40

put simply ctmu.org.

every one of us is god looking through our eyes. every one of us is our own temple and god lies in every one of us. experiencing our lives through what we see. because we are all part of the same thing. we are all constructs of gods imagination. and as in god i don't mean in a religious sense. more in a creationary sense.

we are all space dust or stuff as stated by carl sagan.

weeeeeee · 12-15-08, 09:52

scientific theories like string theory lead me to believe in some creator something had to put us into motion or into existence and i believe that whatever that something is is my god

Rollaj · 12-15-08, 18:21

God created man,
Man returned the favor.

One light, many lamps.
One journey, many paths.

'nuff said

Shosh · 12-15-08, 19:10

There is only one God..That is what I believe and Hippie 3 isnt him! lol... He is the first & the last. He is the creator of everything!

good weed is a gift from god.

Hippie 3... I understand this is ur forum but shouldn't u also follow ur rules? U say not to offend and to be accepting of others yet u insult the one and ONLY God!! And have offended me and possibly many others as well as Jehovah. I am really disappointed about how negative you are being. I noticed u shut down one of my threads over something wayyyy less offensive and nasty than this. I dont get it! I have read ur threads that u used to be a preacher so shouldnt u know better? I hope u respect my opinion & not kick me off for this because it would be VERY wrong. I didnt even fisnih reading all your comments cuz they were just ugly! Hey man I'm just callin it as I see it!

sangraal · 12-15-08, 19:53

God is Everything. God is No-Thing.

My perception is that God is a limitless force, mused of by poets, praised by prophets and categorized as quantum particles by physicists. Yet all fail to comprehend it fully. Religionists fail because they put God inside of a box and define It by holy books and prejudices. Atheists fail because they cannot see the forest because of the trees. I believe that God is beyond good and evil because they are qualities that come from man, not a "devil", an anthropomorphic scapegoat to scare children into submission.

I do not believe that God is a noun. Humanized traits personify a God made by humans.
I think God is a verb, an action. An experience.

Of course, I could be wrong.

sangraal · 12-15-08, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Shosh

the one and ONLY God!! ....etc... Jehovah...

The reason why there's 1000 different religions is because no one group of people can agree with others on who is the "one and only God", if there is only one (or one at all), names and who this God chooses to be his/her/it's messengers. Thus, one can conclude that it is only your heartfelt opinion/conviction that there is only one, named Jehovah, and that this God is sensitive enough to be offended by human remarks made on an internet forum. In the end of it all, no one can be certain of all the details.

And, because (appropriately) this is my 666th post, I'll state that it could be possible that Satanists have had it right all along.

weeeeeee · 12-15-08, 23:13

hahahaha 666th post nice that could not have worked out better
not that those numbers hold any significance to me personally its just pretty damn ironic

MycoChondria · 12-15-08, 23:18

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Originally Posted by TVCasualty

Could God make his ass so big that He couldn't fit on His throne? ...

Only if g_d eats at McDonald's

Old joke:
Q: If you make it up to heaven, how will you recognize g_d?
A: look for the peep with a big "G" on their t-shirt

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03-28-07, 13:46	#102 (permalink)
fahtster Former Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,420	I am god and we/me are in "heaven" right now as I see it... even writing this post is redundant and unnecessary. the greatest idea ever thought up need not even be spoken. not in heaven you say? your heaven consists of your bias towards feeling good. my heaven incorporates ALL... good, bad, evil, love, hate, sad, bad, torchure, ecstasy, patience, contempt and so on and so on... wasn't it david byrne that said "nothing ever happens in heaven." And the sad part is, that place that everyone calls "heaven" where all good things happen and you always get what you want exists here in this world and it goes unused by so many... we go there everytime we sleep. anything you could ever want exists there.... Lucid dreaming should be taught in all schools as soon as possible and should be common knowledge.... can you imagine if everyone was able to get what they wanted everyday? you would wake up needing nor wanting very little = happiness. all I see and feel and hear and touch are extensions of myself, light as it may be... we live in the belly of "god" living out every possibility we can come up with. I've always been here and will never leave and I'm very happy about that. You are ME. I am you and will always treat you as such. ultimately I, as well as you, know exactly what I'm doing here... I just don't let the part of me that doesn't want to know, know. simply put.. it would bore me. the key to existence is "not knowing" which is as stated an illusion. I am the earth.. the endless sky is but a reflection of my endless possibilities. What if our job on this rock was to bring all the carbon back to the surface of the earth so it can start again? it seems ridiculous, I know... most will say, but what about all the suffering? does it matter in the end? no. I will suffer and have and will accept it. suffering is but another thread in the perfect blanket... and does it even matter if I'm not the one suffering? no. Life is not cruel and pain doesn't transfer... it's all just light and god only has two eyes... mine. theres only one story and I'm the storyteller. that all may sound cold and self-centered and you're damn right it is... BUT remember, " You are ME. I am YOU and will always treat you as such" it may sound like I think I know it all and you're right I do... everything in this world that we/I and everything else creates are but mimics of our own bodily functions and thought. we cannot produce something that we don't already know. learning and enlightenment are interchangeable. whats more fun, watching a movie for the first time or already knowing whats going to happen? the problem of free will is easily solved by simply placing an equals sign.... god = Me... god will IS my will. faht Last edited by fahtster; 03-28-07 at 23:37.

03-28-07, 22:45	#103 (permalink)
Sunstar Gazer of the innerself Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,095	Wow thats deep Fhat. I think the Beatles stated it perfectly when they said " I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_IjETAddhs __________________ I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round, how I love to watch them roll ~John Lennon~

11-11-07, 13:58	#108 (permalink)
Ras Asad Amor vincit omnia Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,684	The answer is I dunno....... but it seems more times than not, (possibly just in my head) that its usually the best ones who die early...... and not to say the others who dont die young are bad.. but it seems the most influential, most helpful, most powerful, most benevolent people .. are the ones who are with us a short time and then perish........ I had a thought one day... that the phrase "hell on earth" made me think of..... that maybe they (who die young) are being rewarded maybe??? Like theyve done so much for people, in one way or another, that they get to 'leave' early... they dont get so old that their bodily functions shut down and they cant do anything for themselves......... they have no more pain, witness no more killing, hate, war, poverty, etc......... I feel that maybe , they did what they were meant to , whatever that may be..and got to leave class early for good behavior........... and onto whatever it is thats next........... Jus an herb induced thought one day. lol Bless __________________

03-27-07, 16:09	#101 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,765	good weed is a gift from god.

03-29-07, 10:17	#104 (permalink)
TVCasualty Embrace Your Damage Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,379	I've also thought of God as the "=" sign in E=mc^2. "Heaven is just like where you are right now except much, much better." -Laurie Anderson

11-11-07, 14:40	#110 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 4,945	I dont think ive ever died, although i cannot prove to you or even myself i am not in a death state now. dead by definition no, but maybe status, which is actually another aspect of life. Conception may be deeper than a sperm and an egg. Maybe its also a spiritual connection allowing us to die from our past and be reborn anew. Dying has such negative connotations, when it could be the best thing that ever happens to us. Not trying to make light of how our families would feel without us, because that is real pain. Nobody knows about god. We just know about life, and not to any great extent mind you. you know, all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be. We could very well be a thought god had. A flashing energy to be and then dissipate into the nothingness. We could be a thought by god that is eternal, as we are all part of god, making us god in a way. If you say you know, you dont. I know that much about life. Not much else. but really i dont. I do know its nice to help others. I do know it causes me joy to ease suffering. I would be lying if I say I havent received joy by causing someones pain. I have evolved past that, at least by the standards of how much I will take, and what it will take to get me to cause another true pain. Like someone hurting my family for example, or trying to hurt me physically. This has all been mental masturbation. I talked about life death god and nothing at all. I just had a funny thought: what if indeed we are god, at our mental capacities/evolutionary stage with complete control over anything and everything, not knowing how to use it all yet, or even an iotas worth. we are fucked, and in for a long long evolutionary ride. __________________ "regret is the only way to lose the game." H3

11-11-07, 15:05	#113 (permalink)
HepacatBioclass100 By Hand Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 57	I believe in God! Absolutely! No Doubts at all! I am convinced.Please don't get me started on, "Why".Peace.

11-11-07, 15:08	#114 (permalink)
Ras Asad Amor vincit omnia Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,684	lol. No prob. __________________

11-11-07, 15:41	#115 (permalink)
HepacatBioclass100 By Hand Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 57	The Universe is a big place and a God as Great as he was and still is, had many more adventures to tend to. I believe that the power of his DNA is yet to be witnessed here on planet Earth. I believe God is still making Gardens out there. Peace

11-11-07, 19:00	#116 (permalink)
moggggys Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1	not met the fella yet , ask me when im dead ello ras

11-11-07, 19:08	#117 (permalink)
Ras Asad Amor vincit omnia Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,684	hello mogggys bro. How are ya??? Its good to see you man. see ya around I hope mate. Bless __________________

11-12-07, 22:26	#118 (permalink)
camo kombucha mushroom people Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 65	god is much life...god..to me is above and below..the whole thing with the as above so below at the same kind of idea time.god being god. and the whole only the good die young thing..i dont really get you guys..pain and evil are here so we can stay intune with our souls..im shure there are a million good guys and galls that will die of old old age that you will never meet...but good try...ill live to a pretty old age..am i evil? nope. and the rest are they evil..prolly not..there just in tune with there body..and god..love to us all

11-14-07, 11:56	#120 (permalink)
ShroomGuerilla Myco-Monkey Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,348	Science is my God. Existence. From the dust floating around your room to trees, rocks, animals, germs, humans of all types - racists, rapists, lovers and saints. All of this is God. Personally, if someone were to prove that the typical omnipotent Christian God exists, I would hate him. The god in the bible is a terrible judgmental prick, killing off populations of people, animals when he gets pissed. Killing firstborns, turning water into blood (not good for the fish i suppose), and a list of other heinous shit all because the Pharaoh was being a dick. As the all-powerful all-knowing being god would be he could make existence "heavenly" 24/7. Instead famine, starvation, rape, war, murder etc.. go on with no intervention. With the snap of his fingers "God" could eliminate all the bullshit of the world. Instead he sit over us, like we are in a snowglobe, watching his sick little experiment of "free will" take place. I dont want to be a lab rat, if hell exists - i rather go there. Maybe i will be in the darklords good graces for hating god. Either way, being an atheist, i don't believe in that crap. Sorry for the rant.... But if for some strange reason Mr. Judgmental God exists....Fuck him. Sorry for offending anyone, personal views aren't always candyland happy. -SG

09-15-08, 20:30	#121 (permalink)
HedgeWitch Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 55	God is the thing that we cannot create in labs. Life itself. The spark. God is my dog and god is what happens after it rains. Yes I'm a hippie despite the fact that most "norms" assume I'm a Satanist based on looks alone. God is the life force. You're God.

09-16-08, 11:33	#123 (permalink)
Mario Former Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 189	God is patient, kind, he doesn't envy anyone, or boast about his awesome power, he isn't proud or rude, he doesn't seek to please himself but gives us the choice to please him if we so choose, he isn't easily angered, he dosn't keep a record of wrongdoing but loves it when you confess your wrongs, he's not amused by the worship of other deities, or materialism, or when people use his name with bad intentions. He wants you to take a day off every week from your daily routine. He wants children to obey their parents, no matter what. He wants you to liberate yourself from violence, lust, theft, lies, and wishes that you'd be happy with what you have, and not look covetously at the belongings of others. Where two people, or more, are gathered together in celebration of these values, between them there is God. The Beatles quote touches on this, however, the people making up God have to be one in the spirit of God. You know you're one with the spirit if you portray these attributes, or "fruits" of the spirit. The fruits of the spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control.

09-16-08, 17:05	#125 (permalink)
steeq Searching.... Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,025	God is everything that you want or need him/her/it to be. God is different to us all because we all have different wants and needs. He fills in the gaps of the image that we portay and who we truly are. __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.

09-17-08, 10:19	#126 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,374	god is everything. we just call it that. god. the universe is god! __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

10-25-08, 16:42	#127 (permalink)
xenosapience wanderer Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10	god can't be talked about. language & communication is but a part of god, and a part cannot encompass the whole. trying to discuss it will only further veil the truth.

10-25-08, 16:45	#128 (permalink)
chimp Space Lord Modulator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,420	Language is embedded in consciousness. It's what we have. Talking and language are two distinct, separate things. __________________ Respond, Vibrate, Feedback, Resonate

10-25-08, 18:24	#129 (permalink)
Jordan86 Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 399	I like to see god as the force that allows all of this to happen and what binds us all together as one. We are an aspect of this universe we are an aspect of this god. god is everything, and we are a part of this everything. There is no god as an individual, everything is god. god is just the force and the substance that is everything and holds everything into being and there is nothing that is separate or not god. I don't see god as an individual entity that is somehow all outside of this and everything else is his creation that is separate from god. I don't god as being a separate thing that sits and judges his creation, his creation being something outside of god. I just don't see that at all. I don't see god as an individual separate thing that can be pleased or displeased by his individual separate creation that is considered somehow not a part of god. Worshiping an "idol" is the same thing as worshiping Jesus because both the Idol and Jesus are equally god as well as the dirt on the ground and the ham sandwich in your mouth. All of it just being part of the all encompassing god. Nothing could be separate or not god.

10-25-08, 20:22	#130 (permalink)
KingKanibalKiller Former Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 148	Dude im God!

10-25-08, 20:39	#132 (permalink)
bobdolerson Former Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 464	If God the being exists, there is no way for us to understand what/who/how/where/when he/she/it exists. I don't know how time plays out, or what time even is, but in the way we perceive it, i've come to understand that we cannot know anything. We can believe everything, but the things holding the universe together were here before us, and will be here after us, and the only reason we think anything happens as it does is because it has as long as we can remember. You don't know when you drop a marble that it will hit the ground, you only think it will because your experiences as of yet have shown it to be likely, but you'll never know until it happens. That being said, I will never know anything about God, and cannot even make inferences about his/hers/its character because i don't even have perceptual knowledge of God. Just my ideas. I see no purpose in the search for God, as it will only end with you dying and still not knowing for sure. It shouldn't matter anyway. Live your life in such a way to make what you can perceive better for you and other people that experience it. On our death beds, all we'll have is what we've experienced, no knowledge. My two cents.

10-26-08, 00:55	#133 (permalink)
xenosapience wanderer Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10	don't think of god as a "being."

11-06-08, 19:26	#136 (permalink)
Diego Mycophiliac Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 48	If something cannot appear from nowhere. Then from where did the universe came from? A contradiction? The universe is chaos and is not. It is whatever it is. But to claim only human intelligence can come up with things is not for me. Even because we do not create, we just understand and transform things that are already here for us.

11-07-08, 02:13	#138 (permalink)
i.p.freely Wordsmithartclown Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 948	what if we were the sperm of the earth... allot of humans may feel as if they are the most important beings on this planet. ok. well, what about the planet itself ?? do u not think this a logically thinking organism ? if u do...what are it's goals ? well...what are our natural goals? to eat... to drink from the earth... to procreate... to die... some others...we all hold dear i'm sure... well...what if the earth, itself; had the same goals... what if one of those goals was to procreate... what would it need to inpregnate a surrounding planet... a rocket perhaps ??? __________________ mr. p

11-07-08, 08:26	#139 (permalink)
Diego Mycophiliac Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 48	Bad things are as necessary as good ones, if the earth was an eden and something really bad happened no one would have the guts to stop it. The same applies to a tribal village, if they are too much good, the bad ones will always come and kill them. There must be balance. And the balance is here, so the world is very fine as it is right now.

12-09-08, 15:05	#141 (permalink)
squizzlix Mycophage Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 175	god is information. thoughts, beercans, people, dust mites, appearance of time, rain, ballistic missiles, martian landscape, grocery bags, sound of trees falling in forests with no one there to hear it, etc... all things received by our 6 senses, including those senses are god. or so i believe.

12-10-08, 15:59	#142 (permalink)
mycpooper Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 74	no one can say were from god or god made us because nobody has met god or talked to him. We perceive a god as someone above us that we have no control over and has control over us. here's something to ponder...... god=good and evil=devil. this debate was made up by man thousands of yrs ago to keep people from rebelling etc. __________________ You cannot change your past...but you can change your future to become your past.

12-15-08, 09:40	#143 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,374	put simply ctmu.org. every one of us is god looking through our eyes. every one of us is our own temple and god lies in every one of us. experiencing our lives through what we see. because we are all part of the same thing. we are all constructs of gods imagination. and as in god i don't mean in a religious sense. more in a creationary sense. we are all space dust or stuff as stated by carl sagan. __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

12-15-08, 09:52	#144 (permalink)
weeeeeee humanoid Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,855	scientific theories like string theory lead me to believe in some creator something had to put us into motion or into existence and i believe that whatever that something is is my god

12-15-08, 18:21	#145 (permalink)
Rollaj Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1	God created man, Man returned the favor. One light, many lamps. One journey, many paths. 'nuff said

12-15-08, 19:10	#146 (permalink)
Shosh Former Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 64	There is only one God..That is what I believe and Hippie 3 isnt him! lol... He is the first & the last. He is the creator of everything! good weed is a gift from god. Hippie 3... I understand this is ur forum but shouldn't u also follow ur rules? U say not to offend and to be accepting of others yet u insult the one and ONLY God!! And have offended me and possibly many others as well as Jehovah. I am really disappointed about how negative you are being. I noticed u shut down one of my threads over something wayyyy less offensive and nasty than this. I dont get it! I have read ur threads that u used to be a preacher so shouldnt u know better? I hope u respect my opinion & not kick me off for this because it would be VERY wrong. I didnt even fisnih reading all your comments cuz they were just ugly! Hey man I'm just callin it as I see it!

12-15-08, 19:53	#147 (permalink)
sangraal Gnowledge in Gnature Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,000	God is Everything. God is No-Thing. My perception is that God is a limitless force, mused of by poets, praised by prophets and categorized as quantum particles by physicists. Yet all fail to comprehend it fully. Religionists fail because they put God inside of a box and define It by holy books and prejudices. Atheists fail because they cannot see the forest because of the trees. I believe that God is beyond good and evil because they are qualities that come from man, not a "devil", an anthropomorphic scapegoat to scare children into submission. I do not believe that God is a noun. Humanized traits personify a God made by humans. I think God is a verb, an action. An experience. Of course, I could be wrong. __________________ The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the mind to correlate all it's contents.- HP Lovecraft