Mushroom-vomiting

[Bigjohnny91]

I have to spoke to a few people about this topic and surprisingly learned that they tend to puke shortly after ingesting mushies....

It just seems like a waste of some mushies when you vomit. They do still trip after they vomit but I wonder if their trip could be intensified by holding them down. Very curious what my fellow topiats think.

[Beastmaster]

http://forums.mycotopia.net/polls/46...mach-poll.html (Upset stomach poll)

[Dr_T]

Never happens to me- I don't know why.
I try to eat them on an empty stomach, that may help. I get butterflies during the comeup, but never any nausea or vomiting.

[camMyco]

Sometimes, but usually only if there is too much alchohol ingested first.

[TVCasualty]

I feel worse when eating mushrooms whose caps had already opened (they were sporulating). Eating bullets/aborts never causes me trouble, and my honey recipe also minimizes stomach problems for my friends and I. Everclear extracts or lemon juice presoaking also eliminates all body load for me, whether the caps had opened or not. I've only puked a few times, each of which were caused by me wanting the sick feeling gone and sticking my finger down my throat to get it over with. Once, it felt like I was giving birth to something while I was projectile-hurling, which was interesting. Felt great afterwards...

[Hippie3]

i've only vomited up my dose once-
hot 4th of july picnic
drinking all day
ate bar-b-que too
settled down to watch fireworks,
chomped down 2-3 dry-ish grams
puked within 5 minutes
briefly considered re-injesting
but decided
yuck.
got no effects.

[Dank Side Of The Shroom]

damn hip re ingesting lol. i puke just about every time i eat shrooms. dunno y but 45-hr after taking it it comes back up.

[weed4all]

i havent puked yet, although i do get that lingering taste of mushie in my mouth all day after i eat em'.

[coastalite]

<--- never pukes.

It stands to reason that if you purge them out of your system, then you aren't going to get off as much.

A friend of mine tries to tell me that when you puke, you're just excercising your demons and it's best to just get them out.

I must not have any demons to excercise. Either that, or I have control over my demons.

I tend to disagree with him. I don't want to purge any remaining magic out of my stomach.

There was one time when I felt close to vomitting. I overcame the urge to purge by using the power of the mind.

If you tell yourself you are going to puke, then you will puke. If your mind can convince your body that there's no way you're going to puke, you might be able to overcome it.

If you don't want to puke, then try using the power of your mind to overcome it. Your mind is a powerful tool. Mind over matter.

[Beastmaster]

exercising your demons just makes them stronger.

[Hippie3]

exorcise,
as in exorcism or the exorcist.

[wildburr]

have nver puked yet, I must have a strong stomach or something.

[Mermaidia]

i have puked once, and wished i could have another time.
I usually just let it ride. If the need of puking arises, i do so. I'm not one for trying to hold it back.

[carl]

Hardly ever feel the need to launch, or is that lunch? Anyway... I'm with Mermadia on this, If ya get the urge,PURGE !

[bugs]

I'm friendly with my demons.

I must have a cast iron stomach (damn thing weighs enough) but I've never had more than mild nausea after ingestion. 'Course i'm almost always stoned when I eat shrooms, that may help.

JINX! Most likely shouldn't have said that. I'll probably heave my guts next time.

[toadstooll]

I have prolly punked or wanted to reallll bad every time. Just the smell turns my belly now. I have a capsule machine now, and evrything is much better now.

[Doctor D]

Sometimes I gag while eating the mushrooms, but I assume the puking you refer to is after you've managed to get your mushrooms down.

I agree with the others who mention alcohol in conjunction with mushrooms as being a contributing factor to any nausea. I have never puked on mushrooms, but I usually experience queasiness whenever I drink alcohol before a trip. Never experience queasiness without alcohol, however.

[Dr_T]

Originally Posted by toadstooll

I have a capsule machine now, and evrything is much better now.

Capsules are cool.

[MeltingRealityDrone]

I have never vomited from shrooms.
I have 4 times on cid and once on dmt and after I felt better and it got extremely visual, like really crazy visual.

[PsychoDrogue]

I almost always puke, and when I don't i'm looking forward to it most my trip. I've finished trips with a purge 5 hours after ingestion. usually mostly liquid at that point of course. Its just part of it for me and i wouldn't trade it for anything. I feel so clean and pure afterwards, even if im covered in sweat and vomit when all is said and done. I prefer to get it out of the way towards the beginning of the trip but it comes when it comes.

I think i've made it threw 2 trips without puking and they were my worst two trips.

I puke on almost anything tho. spice and 5-me0-DMT get me pretty quick, but even a nasty hit out of a finished bowl (or a seed or stem) will set me off sometimes. Ayahuasca hits me the hardest of them all. I haven't ingested any cactus yet but the outcome is already obvious.

I still trip hard everytime tho. never feel like i'm wasting anything. many times an early purge gets your trip going hard and fast.

man hip, reingest? that gets my stomach going now, lol. i'd rather stuff down a fresh dose. I'd prolly drink my own piss for an intense amanita experience (which i haven't done) than eat my own puke again.

[feralronin]

Haven't ever puked my own mushies. Have gotten a cramped up stomach, but I think that it has more to do with what I eat first.

But before I got my own specimens I puked twice off ones I bought.

[krinec]

i once puked but i didn't want to, i still tripped tough but not as hard as normal...
my opinion is if you want to have a psilocybin poisoning do it the right way!

[CoyoteMesc]

I puked once, the dose with mixed in with orange juice.

I stared at the stuff for awhile. I couldnt believe how much
the orange juice looked like scrambled eggs before you put
them in the pan. YUK I can believe even thought about
taking that stuff back down...

[Lookin 2 Grow]

Ha, during onset nausea kicks in & my stomach usually turns & churns but I fight to keep it all in.. So I voted for 'I'd never waste' but 'my body doesn't like the poison still could be a count.

[P4ulada]

Never with cubies, I had nausea 2 times, but I never vomited.
Maybe with amanita muscaria vomiting is more common =/
Let´s see if pans cause nausea too (I don´t think so...)

[SilvrHairDevil]

I must have a stainless steel stomach. I haven't puked for any reason since 1970.

[ChimX]

I'll toss my two cents in here and then get ready to dodge the wave of shoes hurled in my direction. After all, is a post ever really complete til a lunatic chimes in?

But first and foremost, in case any new people are reading this, "Psilocybe Cubensis/Magic Mushrooms" do not contain poison. I realize that "My body don't like the poisen" was probably used for 'poll effect', but doing everything we can to rid the world of these old myths and misinformation is beneficial.

Now back to the lunacy at hand. To all those who heave buckets, think of yourself as special. To all those projectile chunk blowers, consider yourself blessed. According to Mazatec curandeiros, throwing up is an essential part of the mushroom ritual. Much like Ayahuasca (The Purge), it was thought that the mushroom enters the body collecting toxins and negative energy and then rids the patient of these through expulsion. Maria Sabina (Mazatec Curandeira) stated that if her patient failed to vomit during the session, she would even vomit for them.

After a couple of years of attending Ayahuasca ceremonies with my wife, I introduced her to P.Cubensis. After the journey I told her the only thing I missed was the 'cleansing'. She told me I was insane and hurled a shoe at me. Well we can't all agree...But I for one, will always be, a firm believer and big fan, of the ever sacred 'cookie toss'.

[pharmer]

over the course of twenty-ish mush trips never once did the idea enter my head. I love mushrooms of any kind, especially fresh.

[copelandiaKidd]

I dont really get sick.... thank goodness!!!! fingers Xed

[bbd2]

only puke with mushrooms was on the highest dose i ever took 160g freshies tea

the purge from that is what suggested to me that perhaps puking was not really a problem when it comes to psychedelics

[DR.DOOM]

i never puked yet but my stomach has gotten pretty rumblely

[Shamsu]

never bother my stomach or make me feel ill, guess that one way im lucky

[TVCasualty]

Originally Posted by ChimX

Now back to the lunacy at hand. To all those who heave buckets, think of yourself as special. To all those projectile chunk blowers, consider yourself blessed. According to Mazatec curandeiros, throwing up is an essential part of the mushroom ritual. Much like Ayahuasca (The Purge), it was thought that the mushroom enters the body collecting toxins and negative energy and then rids the patient of these through expulsion. Maria Sabina (Mazatec Curandeira) stated that if her patient failed to vomit during the session, she would even vomit for them.

After a couple of years of attending Ayahuasca ceremonies with my wife, I introduced her to P.Cubensis. After the journey I told her the only thing I missed was the 'cleansing'. She told me I was insane and hurled a shoe at me. Well we can't all agree...But I for one, will always be, a firm believer and big fan, of the ever sacred 'cookie toss'.

I've seen that side of it as well.

I puked once after holding it back a little too long during what was up until then a horrible trip (it was a very bad setting and the only time I've seen ghosts of dead people that simply would not go away for several hours). As I mentioned before in a previous post, the purge felt exactly like giving birth, or rather I intuitively 'knew' that that's how it felt. I think I started smiling even as I was still heaving. It was one of the more intense tripping moments I've ever had.

Apparently I'd decided to eat my dose on some land where a very bloody major Civil War battle had taken place (it was bloody even by Civil War standards) but I didn't know that at the time (private property, no big historical plaques around). I saw soldiers (apparently; they wore tattered uniforms) warming themselves by campfires on the very hill that one side had camped on during the battle, and they just sat there staring into their fires as clearly as I've ever seen anyone sit by a fire from 50 yards away (I did not go one step closer). It was the most 'noided out, tense, hair-raising, and downright unpleasant trip I'd had in years right up until I puked. After I did, the dead soldiers were gone and I sobered up about two hours later. Sometimes we have stuff stuck inside us that needs to be released in a startlingly physical way; water falling out of our eyes when we're overtaken by strong emotions is not exactly a rational response to a non-physical circumstance, but crying is undeniably therapeutic when we need it.

So, I can see that side of it but at the same time I've been out on the Rez and eaten Peyote in the traditional way, and the person in charge of preparing the medicine took great care to prep the buttons so as to minimize nausea. Puking in that context was also related to spiritual progress, but you only puked while you still had crap to purge; not puking was the ultimate goal because it meant that you'd purged all the crap. Dry heaving (whether literal or spiritual) is one step too far beyond healing and can end up causing harm, so be wary of purging for the sake of purging. A friend who has done numerous Ayahuasca sessions in Ecuador also reported that the puking is an aspect of it some shamans would prefer not to deal with at all, so when I survey the Big Picture it seems to me that different cultures and spiritual traditions (and even some individuals within a given tradition) deal with entheogens and purges differently.

Spiritual bulimia is a very real pitfall for those who get too caught up in the cleansing and don't bother to relax and enjoy the state of being cleansed. I've met some folks so obsessed with cleansing that they never have the time or opportunity to get dirty again because they're always 'cleansing' something (they do parasite cleanses, colon cleanses, chelation therapy, liver cleanses, etc etc all the time). All of those things are useful to us occasionally, but we're never gonna get perfectly clean so puke when there's something that needs to be expelled and cleanse when you're dirty but beware of devaluing a trip because you didn't manage to puke at some point.

I for one am very thankful that I can puke when I have to, but it's something I'd prefer to avoid if at all possible.

[whatchamacallit]

Even is SWIM is tripping decent, when he pukes, it seems to make him come down. He doesn't puke very often, and always tries to hold it in if he feels slight nausea. Usually with tea, though, he doesn't get any nausea.

[ChimX]

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

water falling out of our eyes when we're overtaken by strong emotions is not exactly a rational response to a non-physical circumstance, but crying is undeniably therapeutic when we need it.

I found this part really interesting. A lot of ceremonies I hit down here mention something similar. The cleansing most shamans here speak of take many different forms. Aside from the aforementioned regurgitation, also tears, urination, defecation, heavy sweating and even excessive yawning are all considered forms of the same. I'm further south now, but as far north as Southern Columbia and Northern Peru the same holds true.

Possibly due to many factors, but subsequent doses after the initial purge never come back up on me, which always fuels my supernatural speculation that it's not the drink causing the reaction but the conflict with toxins that were in me prior to those 1st doses. (Ducking shoes now...) I'm not sure if the same would be true for mushrooms, but I'd love to find out.

Coincidentally, I also hear a lot of reports of seeing the dead right before yacking. I really enjoyed that part of your post. I've had this happen once as well but perhaps it's better left for a trip report somewhere down the road...Anyway, great post TV, I really enjoyed that.

[Hatch_]

no not me.
but i often feel like im gonna when im coming up.