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| View Poll Results: How high of a dose for a first time | |||
| 1 Gram and work my way up if im comfortable | | 24 | 17.14% |
| 2 Grams Its safe | | 67 | 47.86% |
| 3 Grams PUSH IT PUSH IT!! | | 32 | 22.86% |
| 4 Is good for a first time who wants to see it all | | 17 | 12.14% |
| Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| | #1 (permalink) |
| quadraplegic squrille Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 488
![]() | First time dosing mushies Want info on how to dose, cause i want a high dose, but not where im going to fell like im Dieing, Its my first Time and ive gotten mixed results on what i should do for the first time... Thanks and Cheers
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| | #6 (permalink) |
| Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 235
![]() | no lethal dose...BUT!!!!!!!!!!! to enjoy this great fruit, start slow, look around, be in a very pleasant place, in your mind and geography wise, drink a beer or two and let it roll baby roll.....by the way, I think the best visuals are at night! |
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| Banned from marketplace Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 189
![]() | I agree. Do it at night. I actually haven't tripped during daylight. I split an 1/8th with my room mate the first time I did them. Took hours to come on and barely peaked for a half hour (so thats at about 1.7g's). I got some paranoia and very minor visuals. I was overall disapointed. Now unless I know I have a stronger than usual substrain, I always do at least 3 grams. I've even been dissapointed by a 7 gram trip though. It all depends on the mushies your eating. If your unsure, it would be safe to start around or just under 2 and work your way up after an hour or so has passed. one substrain i came across with cambos, taken dried chewed whole (as always), put me in the strongest and earliest trip i've ever had. Took about 25 minutes to peak. I only ate 2.5 grams. but it only lasted about an hour and a half and i was virtually baseline again. Wish I still had a culture of that one. It would be nice to keep around for the days you just have a few hours to blow rather than a whole evening. I'd love to experiment with higher doses. on the other hand, i've had trips take 2.5 hours to become pronounced, and last close to 10. so 2 is my vote, but don't stop there if your not getting what you want. eat more after an hour or 2. or sooner if your drinking tea. i've heard that comes on a lot faster, so you should be able to guage it better. |
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| Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 384
![]() | I've had very little experience with halucinogens. I'm new to cubies and recently had my first experience. I took the slow path, 1g it came on in about a half hour and built up over the next two the tapered off for another hour and a half It was a very strong body effect with feelings of awe, the only visuals were color enhancement. It was very enjoyable. Next time it's 2g and on and on ![]() |
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
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![]() | 10 years ago we told everyone to do 3-5 g's dry. experience has taught us that dose gives too many panic attacks to be considered 'safe' in all circumstances. now we say 2 g dry, only 1 or 2 in a 100 or so will have bad experience at that low dose, even in stressful situations.
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| | #11 (permalink) |
| Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 179
![]() | If you have access to decent potent specimens, try grinding them up. Mix .5-1.5 grams into some lemon juice, let sit for 15 or so mins and drink it. It is wonderful to chase with a nice oj ![]() Start low, you can always do more later, but if you do too much, you might not enjoy it at all!! Also, make sure you are in a nice calm happy state of mind before the ingestion. Don't do it just because you can, or because you made plans. (I know this is an old thread, but I still posted :-p) Give our fungal friend the respect he deserves, and he will respect and reward you too ![]() |
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 36,274
![]() | Quote:
the threads just get better with age...
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 36,274
![]() | you of all people should be glad we don't discriminate against the old. ![]()
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| Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5
![]() | Yeah I would go for the 2 grams in a very relaxed safe atmosphere. The more comfortable you can get the further increased in intensity of the hallucinogenic experience without the added anxiety potential of high doses. Increased comfort=increased visuals and other hallucinogenic effects. One gram in a sensory deprivation tank visuals =the visuals of a 7 gram dose in a social atmosphere for example. |
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| Masked Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,366
![]() ![]() | Honestly, when I was turned onto psychedelics a while ago it was done in a very frank fashion. I ate enough to be REALLY fucked up my first time for everything. I remember my first trips on everything very well and they were amazing because I had complete breakthroughs my first time and I feel like that is what psychedelics means to me. Not just riding the line of being crazy and wigging out, realizing that there is no line and seeing the order in the chaos of what is all around us.
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| Space Lord Modulator Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,054
![]() ![]() ![]() | Yeah 2 grams are good for the first time....I have a friend who's son ate 2 g dried, but very fresh with us the other night...(His Son is 20) He had a great experience he said..I would like to ad that he is a good kid with a good head on his shoulders and I wouldn't have let him eat 2 if I thought different. |
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| | #22 (permalink) |
| Mycophage Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 144
![]() | I've a friend who even after Several doses, 2 grams is often too strong. Camping one weekend we dosed 2 days in a row, and we all doubled out dose the second day from previous exp and advice on here. the rest of us we blissridden while my 1 gram girl was pushed to here limit with less than 3 grams. Months later she's still not ready to try again it was so intense. One theme I notice in unpleasant experiences is the strength of the dose, esp comparable to previous experience. If it's new to you, start small. There are plenty of joys to be found on the way up, and a mild trip or light body high beats never wanting to touch them again. Talk to them, they will tell you what to do.
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| Master Baiter Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 453
![]() | My first dose was about 4 grams and all i have to say is WOW FUCKING AMAZING. A moment i will never forget. Was very stupid though, i will not give specifics but i risked a good many lives... I would start off with 2 grams wait 90 minutes then take another gram every 90 minutes until you feel peachy. I would take special care to have a good set and setting and make sure you don't have car keys on ya ![]() |
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| | #26 (permalink) |
| Mycophiliac Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 21
![]() | The first time I did them they were in choc. candies, suspose to have 2 1/2 grms in each, i ate two and burnt a joint and was laying on the bed and in the b-room mirror, i looked flat laying on the bed, and felt and looked like i was in four segments, cooooollllll, then when i got sum more, i got eight choc. cndy's and ate five of them, needless to say i freeked, was pasing the room, getting hot and turning down the air, then cold and uping the heat, felt uncomfortable and went outside and the lilac bush was breathing like a baloon (bad spler here). after my first really successfull grow, i recently decided to ramp it up, though most of my last box's died, i came out with about 30 gm dried, so i made up a bowl of melted choc. with 19 grm dried in it, ate about 1/3 to start, the carped looked like worms growing upwards and things moving around the room, after about 4 hrs and things had setteled down a bit, i ate the rest of it and then started thinking "oh s%it, what the hell did i do. I have started enjoying mirror triping and things were starting to get really heavy, really quick ride up, and i sat down on the couch and looking at myself in the mirror saying to myself that nothing is real, everything is just an illusion, even the thoughts are cause no matter how bad things seem now its all in ones head and nothing is real and in the total recorded history of mankind since the first symbols or words were created in the complete history of all that has been recorded and known, shrooms have not "PERMENTLY" harmen or killed anybody. I was watching fresh prince of bellair and as more things started moving around the room, the charicters on the tv seemed to have clam shells on their heads and bodies, then they started to have like ghostly after images following behind them, the rest of the trip was wild, the tv was talking to me, and after about a half 20oz bottle fruit juice, it was like my mine opened up to the universe, there was times half my head was gone, missing jaw, no left eye, two heads on one sholder, a lot of other things. I know this is off topic, but the point is it is good to start slow and 2-3 gms for first few times out, but now for me, i have found peace in the thoughts of the illusions being nothing to fear, and that once fear is concured, and the true enemy defeated, the whole mind opens up to a reality and existance indecribable by any words or relations; one only has to know its all in your head, and how you feel in your thoughts is what you will see and experiance in reality; fear, worries, troubles are the things that brings a high dose to where, as mentioned in this thread eailier, "YOU NEVER WANT TO TOUCH THEM AGAIN", or the destruction of the fear, moving past the intinsified illusions of problems and worries, there are no real problems or worries that can not be solved or made better through time and effort to make things better and once these things are tamed and brought into the lime-light and they are pushed aside and the conchious and sub-conchious become one, the heavens open to a mind and body of universal proportions. ISUD "WHEN FEAR IS DEFEATED, NOTHING CAN STAND IN ONES WAY" |
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| Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 385
![]() | Quote:
Hmmm, there might be a bit of irony in that statement. ![]()
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| | #29 (permalink) |
| Shroomess Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 135
![]() | my first time it was around 1.8g ground up in a chocolate. at the time it was pretty overwhelming for me because the only other experience with hallucinogens i'd had was several years before that when i ate a bunch of morning glory seeds with a friend who was supposed to participate too but chickened out at the last minute, so i was running around yelling and freaking out about how i might be dying for six hours straight. the worst part was when everyone fell asleep and i was still wandering around convinced i would be dead soon and trying very hard to write a "goodbye cruel world" note to leave behind. the moral is: make sure you have someone experienced around to babysit and talk you down if you start freaking, and if there's no one like that to help, at least get another friend to do them with you. and if pot calms you down at all, smoke a lot of it to take the edge off any anxiety you may feel on the come up. maybe also try to have some kind of sleeping pills (even over the counter stuff if you can't get something prescription strength) and/or sedatives in case it really just gets to be too much. that safety net of knowing you can take something (like valium or xanax or something else fast-acting) and pass out can go a long ways toward calming your mind so you can relax and enjoy the trip as much as possible. and as always, make sure to do it where you feel safest and make sure your frame of mind is as ready as can be for that kind of intense inner exploration. breathing exercises and meditation are also good if you have any practice with them. "JUST BREATHE" has gotten me through so much in life, including much of the anxiety I've experienced while tripping. i've tripped on mushrooms around 7-8 times so far, so i'm no expert, but still just a tentative explorer, but these things have helped me out, so hopefully they can help you too. more experienced trippers, please correct anything i've said if you feel it's bad advice. i would hate to suggest anything that might make anyone else's trip less than the wonderful, mind-expanding experience it should be. edit: i didn't realize how old this thread was till after posting. i wonder how that first trip went? |
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| | #30 (permalink) |
| Psychonaut Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 531
![]() | Ppl have diferent sensitivity for mushies. Some drugs may cause stronger or lesser effects of psiloc(yb)in. Personality is extremely important. If you're introverted and sensitive person, take less. If you're more extroverted, you'll probably wanna have fun on mushies, rather than dig into your own consciousness, so there's a smaller chance of having a bad trip even on a higher dose. Set & setting are also crucial. You probably know what that is. Guide or some kind of keeper may be helpful. Do your homework, clean up your room, make sure everything's going fine in your life, and especially if you wanna focus on spirituality during the experience nothing bad can happen. Avoid anything that may become stressing under the trip. First time I took about 30 semilanceatas and I did it completely alone. The peak was pretty overwhelming and when I was coming down I couldn't stop repeating "Jesus fucking Christ". It was sooo unbelievable :P. Now I can eat over a 150 of them and just have fun with friends etc. Now I really feel that I've learned to control them, but it took me over 30 trips! :] Psychedelics can really affect one's personality. So use them wisely. If I don't have a chance to choose one's dosage, I say that between 1-2g is safe, although I think that the first time is the most important, therefore I gave a few ppl 3g for their 1st trip, but I was their guide - and that certainly was an important factor.
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