poppy tea experience, advice for improvement

[d3adly]

Ok so recently I purchased about 50 tennis ball sized pods online. They have no holes drilled in them and the seeds are still rattling inside, they appear fresh and I dont think they're coated (they dont have the plastic look about them) I started with 1 giant pod and used a blender to grind it into fine powder with seeds and stems still in there. I then added scalding hot water (but not boiling) and continued to blend for 15 minutes (didnt have lemon juice to add) after straining the final product looked almost identical to milk and was a bit thicker than water. I drank approx 2 cups of the liquid and sat for 30 min. The liquid had a bitter taste and while certainly unpleasant was not near as bitter as other concoctions I have consumed including kratom tea. After 30 min my head began to get extremely heavy and my neck feels as though my circulation is being cut off when I hold my head up, I do feel somewhat relaxed, my pupils are noticeably dilated and I am suddenly hungry. I also have a euphoria but not near as intense as I had expected. AFter 1/2 hour after consuming the liquid I proceeded to consume the remaining poppy straw and seeds (from that one single pod), orally via the 'parachuting' route. The above effects were intensified over the course of the next hour or so and my mouth dried considerably.

Is there anything I did wrong here? Do these effects sound normal? Does anyone have any advice on improving this experience?

[rocketman]

Some suggestions, but the way you did it should have worked. If you have a tolerance you may want to use 2 pods and step up as needed. It takes me around 4 or 5 larges.

Grind the pod as fine as possible. More surface area=better extraction.

The seeds are likely viable. If you have no need for them keep on grinding them up. Most like to plant them in the late winter for a crop.

Do use a pot on the stove. Bring a cup or more of water to a boil and add the pods,stems etc. I continue to bring it to a low boil again for a couple of minutes, then let it sit for a half hour or so. I strain the pulp, but I am pretty sure if you drink it you will get stronger effects.
If you choose to strain the pulp, save it after straining you can use it again with your next batch with the strength being approx. 1/4 of pre boil.

[d3adly]

tried another extraction as I was unhappy with that one. This time I used lemon juice, more pods (two mammoths instead of one), more water, and spent an hour letting it soak as opposed to only 15-20 minutes, then I blended it for a few min. I used heated water (about as hot as you can get without boiling) but not boiling as heat can destroy the alkaloids. This time the tea was brown and much much much nastier tasting. Keeping it down has not been easy. I have finished 3/4 of the brew and right now I am getting a feel for it before taking more.

[suckerfree]

My method:

I pour water into a pot and get the flame going...
I grab the stem and make circles with it until it breaks from the pod, I pour out the seeds from the new hole into a ziplock for later planting. I crush the pod in my hands and put the mess into a coffee grinder. (i hear stems and seeds can ill your stomach, so like cannabis, i don't use them) whir whir whir
I pour the powder into a jar. When the water gets to simmer I pour into a measuring cup. One cup of water goes in the jar with the powder. I stir it with a spoon and let it sit. I have better results letting it sit for an hour to an hour and a half.
In a second jar, I drop a tea bag (they have those instant fruit flavored tea bags) and two teaspoons of sugar. I put a funnel on the jar. I put a square of cheesecloth over the funnel. I pour the liquid over the cheesecloth carefully holding it. Then I squeeze it good. After about ten min I squeeze out the tea bag. Stir it again...
then I drink HALF. and 45 minutes later IF i need it I drink the other half.

Good luck!

[oeisa]

the one time i made tea, i mixed it with hot chocolate, which covered the taste completely. dunno how great that would taste with the lemon juice, though.

[d3adly]

did you add extra water and the hot chocolate powder or just add the powder? Also the last batch totally knocked me off my ass and eventually put me to sleep. Nausea was bad though is there any way to reduce that without smoking pot or whatever. Basically if I moved at all I got the urge to vomit, though I did not get sick tho.

[rocketman]

Trust me, all that about hurting the alkaloids may be true in some lab somewhere, but in real life it just doesnt happen to a noticable degree. I have found it necessary for a nice slow boil for a couple of minutes to get a good strong tea. I am not the only one that feels this way either.

[suckerfree]

Originally Posted by d3adly

Nausea was bad though is there any way to reduce that without smoking pot or whatever. Basically if I moved at all I got the urge to vomit, though I did not get sick tho.

Lay down...to feel better. Having nausea is just part of it friend...

[chimp]

Originally Posted by rocketman

Trust me, all that about hurting the alkaloids may be true in some lab somewhere, but in real life it just doesnt happen to a noticable degree. I have found it necessary for a nice slow boil for a couple of minutes to get a good strong tea. I am not the only one that feels this way either.

I agree, I have found that a slowly rolling boil is best for me as well.

[d3adly]

Originally Posted by rocketman

Trust me, all that about hurting the alkaloids may be true in some lab somewhere, but in real life it just doesnt happen to a noticable degree. I have found it necessary for a nice slow boil for a couple of minutes to get a good strong tea. I am not the only one that feels this way either.

Damn I was fucking smashed as hell off of two pods and come to find out i missed out on some? lol, I ended up falling into the opiated sleep and it lasted most of the night. By the time I peaked I could barely keep my eyes open. I had heated the water in the microwave to the point where it was steaming and burned the hell out of my finger, when I added the water and lemon juice to the ground pods i put a lid on th blender and let it sit without blending and airtight so it dint cool down for awhile, I then blended the concoction for about 15 sec while holding the lid on and then let it sit for about 30 min without the lid, then I blended again after replacing the lid and let it sit some more. Seemed to work perfectly.

So no one knows of any way to reduce nausea? Someone mentioned not throwing in seeds and stems will make you less nauseous, is this true?

[Hippie3]

a little, maybe, but nausea is part of the opioid experience,
even pure pharma powder will make you hurl
if you take enough

[rocketman]

The stems are a bit rougher than the pods ime. Not much you can do about the nausea as hip said. Sounds like you need to find your dose and you will be okay.

[doobydoobydoo]

Man, my first time, nausea... OMG... was insane. THE ONLY thing that helped was laying on the ground. Standing, sitting in a chair, all did NOTHING. Very dizzy naseous for 2 days.

That was like 3 pods if I recall.

My method:

Boil the water. Break the stem off, crack open the pod, remove seeds. Crush the pod by hand, and if you want, the stem also. Sometimes I scissor helps. Sometimes no stem used. I just take this put it in a glass/cup. Pour the boiling water over it. Let it steep for 30-45 min, mixing it about. A lil lemon juice helps the taste and a few alkaloids, but not needed all the time. After that time, it's still slightly warm, strain it out. Leaves a nice darkish liquid. I noticed the longer it sits, the more "goods" come out. One gallon jug I left overnight b4 straining. Was shaking it about and whatnot. MAN, THAT SHIT WAS POTENT!!! Couple sips and I was out. hehe SO, after the strain, just drink.

A few sips at a time would keep me going. Drinking it all at once packs a hell of a punch to me. Rocketman, you're a nut bro lol, 3-4-5 pods. OMG. Tolerance


Few things I noticed. The poppy tea makes me horny, and yeah, sorta hungry. You can fuck for hours on this shit, if you don't do too much and get super numbed out.

Dizzyness happens and it can last for more than a day.

If you evap the tea down, do it at a low heat. The morphine breaks down right around the boiling point of water, so you want to evap it just below that. Then you get concentrated tar. Too much heat, it definately breaks some stuff down and you get tar still, but sorta bland with some effects, but not near what it should be. Low heat key. A short boil or something though, not bad at all. Helps get the stuff out.

I noticed also that once the shells and things soak up the water and hydrate, that's when the goods really start to ooze out. This happens around 30-45 min or so.


Good luck.. Not my fav thing, but cool none the less.

Som

[doobydoobydoo]

Originally Posted by d3adly

did you add extra water and the hot chocolate powder or just add the powder? Also the last batch totally knocked me off my ass and eventually put me to sleep. Nausea was bad though is there any way to reduce that without smoking pot or whatever. Basically if I moved at all I got the urge to vomit, though I did not get sick tho.

heh, pot helps, but not so much... that dizzy naseua feeling, it would only go away for me if I layed down. Not sit up, not stand, but lay flat down.

[d3adly]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

a little, maybe, but nausea is part of the opioid experience,
even pure pharma powder will make you hurl
if you take enough

Well yeah Ive taken high doses of opiates before that caused me to puke. In my experience you usually hurl once or twice and then its over with. Maybe this would have been the same, i dunno but the other day I overdose'd on a very concentrated kratom extract and was throwing up for over 12 hours and miserable. Anyone here ever od'd on kratom? Is simply vomiting from a high dose of pt majorly different or what? I mean the euphoria is amazing but being sick the whole time can definately ruin it and I dont much wanna experience that.

[oeisa]

Originally Posted by d3adly

did you add extra water and the hot chocolate powder or just add the powder? Also the last batch totally knocked me off my ass and eventually put me to sleep. Nausea was bad though is there any way to reduce that without smoking pot or whatever. Basically if I moved at all I got the urge to vomit, though I did not get sick tho.

I measured the proper amount of water beforehand so that I could make a cup of hot chocolate per cup of poppy tea. I ground up the pod with a coffee grinder, then boiled it for a little while and then let it sit for a few hours (mostly due to laziness rather than trying to extract any extra goodies), reheated it when I was ready to go, strained, and added the hot chocolate.

As for the nausea, the only thing that I've found that makes that go away (or at least eases it), is laying down, and having a prescription for an opiate-painkiller for the past few years so my body is used to dealing with some opiates. I made tea out of one of the large arizonaselect pods, and that kicked my ass way more than any of the pills I ever took. I could barely stand up for a few hours. I haven't tried it again since then because I'm not too interested in getting my ass kicked by any drugs anymore.

[d3adly]

SO what all varieties are good? I mean is one better than the other? For instance I have found a supplier of Tasmanian, Turkish and Gigantheum pods. I heard turkish pods might be a good choice...

[doobydoobydoo]

A friend and I made some tea the other night. I first made a glass of 3.5 grams of pod shells and drank that myself. Made a 2nd glass with 5 grams which I had a few sips of and my friend had the rest. He said he's used to vicodins and whatnot... Well, about 30-40 min later he was pacing around complaining about the worst stomach pain he has ever had. He said it was like someone had punched him in the stomach about 100 times really hard. He nearly went to the hospital from the pain. But, after about an hour, it subsided. I never heard of that b4... Anyone else have any similar experiences?

[suckerfree]

Walking around probably wasn't the best thing to do... laying flat on his back for a few minutes didn't help?
You said he takes other pills? My woman is allergic to codeine so she can't take pods, gives her an incredible pain in her stomach/chest... she was about ready to go to hospital too! never again she says...