opium poppy seeds from grocery store bought seeds

[*Quagmire*]

Now seeing as the net is and isn't the greatest place to search for opium grow logs information, harvesting methods etc. (if only there was an opium site out there like mycotopia) i find my self lost and uninformed properly, I Know that you can order opium poppy seeds online, and ive heard that poppy seeds for baking that you can get at the grocery store tho do produce opium when matured into pods, they produce much less than other papaver somniferum spiecies stating that any other poppy species seeds would be poisinous to bake with,... but I also read that the only poppy seeds that contain(When grown) opium, are the ones you bake with, now my question is are these seeds i have from the grocery store the same seeds they use in opium poppy fields grown for their morphine and codiene?

[grimblegrumble]

Have you ever been to http://www.poppies.org/ ?
From what I've read it can depend on the company brand of the seeds.
Some brands are good, others aren't.
This is all second hand to me.

[*Quagmire*]

yes ive read through alot of good resarch but it seems as if noone uses it anymore, ex. all the post are dated 2003

[grimblegrumble]

That's pretty much the way poppies go for alot of people.
They read about them, get excited, get some, get addicted, get alot more, grow some,get even more than that, grow some more, get even more and then, eventually, someday sometime run out and go through terrible withdrawls and get sick of being addicted and quit getting or doing any.

[*Quagmire*]

no i know what your saying but i wouldn tgo through withdrawl because i dose smart, my cousin had 80mg hydrocoidone pills monthly perscription for 2 years and she gave me half of them i was addicted for about a week and quickly took a break and am still taking them moderatly, but people smoke pot, and i did to but i find this is more of a social high, i really enjoy the buzz anytime of the day, especially working 6 days a week i can relax with these but you are right about it being very addictive but i was a ware of that before so i think trying opium im going to go into it with the same mindset, i just reallize these pills are going to run out, and i think i would like to go right to the source

when i started with poppies, the only seeds i had were from the grocery store. I just went to the local grocer and found a 150g bag in the spices section for about 2 dollars. I suspect they weren't the freshest seeds as the germination rate was pretty bad. but with 150g's how can you go wrong. and they were the right plant

[*Quagmire*]

thnaks I.M for your imput im starting too think that i might have the right seeds after all

Poppies.org is a pretty popular site and gives all you need on how to grow, then there is opiophile.org, much smaller.. Quagmire, I think you are already addicted, moderate use of an opiate is all it takes... I thought I wasn't addicted for a long time, like 8 months, but it progresses slowly and then you don't notice... I'm not saying don't use 'em, hell, I was addicted for 6+ years, and tried to quit many times... But realize, when you do have a lil trouble getting them, it's gonna be very difficult on you... It ruins your sex drive, and makes you numb to the world... You kinda lose yourself... SO bee careful is all I'm suggesting...

good point.
http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sac...3-31/cover.asp
theres a good example. you think it can't happen to you, then it does.

That dude is way hardcore... Sad but funny, I know the feelings well...

[grimblegrumble]

An interesting read for sure.
Very hardcore.
Thanks.

[Soliver1]

Originally Posted by *Quagmire*

no i know what your saying but i wouldn tgo through withdrawl because i dose smart, ... i really enjoy the buzz anytime of the day, especially working 6 days a week ... so i think trying opium ... i just reallize these pills are going to run out, and i think i would like to go right to the source

Take a peek at a condensed version of what you wrote and rethink your
"I dose smart" statement. Naturally, you have to make your own mistakes,
but you sound a lot like me 10 years ago. If you're taking hydro to get you
through a long work week, you're better off quitting work than starting an
opiate addiction. Poppy will change you, and not for the better.

Stick to mycotopia - you'll live longer and happer

I'm constantly wrangling with a drug addiction of some sort, and I don't even
count alcohol and pot as drugs. Kratom is the only thing I've found that
keeps me off opiates for extended periods of time, but then I have to deal with
kratom withdrawls. Kick if and while you can - drink heavily and smoke pot
all day it that's what it takes, cause the opiate route is a hard road my friend.

sol

Ain't that the truth...i've had problems with opiates for a long time. I had to move a 1000 miles away so I didn't know where to get any. Now when I find em I binge. I like em still but its best to stay away.

[wovotom]

personally i stay away from opiates, too life consuming & also you do see people gradually fade away almost, like shadows of their former selves!!!i used to smoke way too much pot & that really fuk'd up my head & my bank balance, & i always binge if i have coke.......havent done that for mon ths though...my advice is order yourself a pf kit, or follow the technique get yourself & spore pack & that'll be alot more fun on your day off

[sadsoul]

you guys are right , stay away of opiates , i was a heroin addict and now i'm clean thanks to methadone , i lost everthing , my wife , 2 kids its been like 5 years we separated and i have the kids ever week end but it stills hurts alot , ever day i think and sometimes crie, dont fuck with it , please its my advice, i had motorcycles , cars , 15 species of birds , jewerly , celular phone , money ect........... and its all gone.............................................. ....................
if you want to get high smoke weed , its organic and everbody does it .......

but i can say that the best fuck whas on heroin, in the first round you last like 1 1/2 hours easy and you fill ever move..................................thats how i started with this shit , i had a beautyful woman on the side and she use to do crazy shit , but it was fun ..........................

Sincerely ..................///////////////God bless you all ......................

[Hippie3]

opiates are for folks in pain,
at least that's the only good reason.