Poppy Tea Question

[Nunyabiz]

Swim bought 100 + dried poppy pods a while back.. Swim made a tea with a bunch of them.. bout 50.. He drank a cup of this and it did nothing.. Second try was 2 cups.. still nothing..

It was boiled at a very low temp for 20 minutes or so..

Other people have had the same pods and said they are good. Did swim do something wrong?

Swim read of a way to defat the extract with toluene.. Would that leave the goodies? Swim is also wondering if he makes a tea of the rest can the alkaloids be precipitated easily? He does have a small amount of lime.. Does anyone know how much it would take?

[Looky]

I thought tea had to brew for hours, but I am not the right person to ask. I thought that I read that though.

[prism]

I crush 2 Large pods up then bring water to slow boil then dump in poppies... Simmer on low for 30 min.

add honey to taste...

This gets me going all day... sometimes more... I use the "Dog" again for a 1/2 power dose, or I add it to my next 2 pods for a lil more kick.

Sounds like you either have nonactive pods, or you did not make tea correctly.

Be careful with pods... 50 all at once could prolly make you really sick/kill yo ass

Good luck

[Nunyabiz]

First try was 5 pods with no effect.. So 50 were brewed for a few doses.. Hmm.. Thats pretty crappy.. They cost over $70..

Swim recently tried kratom with much better results.. The effects were much powerful and much like a percoset.

[prism]

man.... that sux. I would try 3-5 pods and simmer longer..


Good luck!

[golly]

Try lowering the Ph of the brew for simmering [lemmon juice vitamin C ect]...
Kratom works on the same receptors -did you need a high dose to feel it's effects..?

[Nunyabiz]

Effects of the kratom were pretty enjoyable at 5 grams.. It was made into a tea.. Boil water, turn off heat, add kratom, simmer 10 min, strain, repeat, then the remaining liquid was squeezed off..

[golly]

Ok so it's proly not due to having a high tolerance..
Another alternative is to finely powder a pod or two and mix with yohgurt..That way u know your getting the full monty...

[rocketman]

Something is very wrong somewhere, either in you pods or in your methods.

ground pods added to boiling water and removed from the heat will give you potent tea in ten minutes. Where did you get those pods?


1. grind pods
2. heat about a cup of boiling water maybe a cup and a half to boiling
3. add ground pods
4. let ground pods sit for twenty minutes, you may reheat cuz for me its easier to drink hot tea than cold.
5. using a paper towel and some type of strainer pour tea with grounds into the paper towel/strainer that is positioned over a cup or mug.
6. after a couple of minutes squeeze the paper towel to get the rest of the liquid that gravity didnt pull.
7. add whatever you want for flavor.
8. drink

Its that easy. Either you did not grind your pods or you got bunk pods.

save the pulp as it can be used at about 1/4 strength again. I usually refridgerate my used grounds and make a glass of tea using only the semi spent grounds from 4 or 5 teas.

[cheech]

it's kinda hard to mess up poppy tea. all you're doing is a polar extraction. when i made tea i would pour boiling water over ground pods and let steep for 30 minutes, strain and serve. sounds like weak pods to me.
how did the tea taste? usually the more bitter the brew the more potent.

[Toecutter]

it does sound like you got rolled on the pods.
50 into how much water?

[CYNDILOU]

Never boil the tea. It kills alkaloids. Boil water, remove from heat, add ground pods, lemon juice cover & steep for about 15/20 minutes. Strain. Sweeten with honey.
Peace

[rocketman]

boiling wont hurt you, in fact i believe it necessary. i dont know the exact temp morphine begins to degrade, but from my experience it hasnt been anywhere near degraded even when i forget the tea and it boils for half an hour.

[Freaky]

Grinding to a powder and ingesting works quite well too, if trouble making tea. I've mixed the pod powder into pudding and was feeling great about 20 minutes later.

And I've had my tea boil before with no loss in potency as well. I microwave my teabags in coffee mugs and the water boils a bit during the waving.

Hope you have success soon!

[Oblivion]

Ive boiled and extracted cold. I notice no difference with smoking or ingesting.

[peacegrow]

I have the same problem. Luckily I only got two bags of 12.
It was from a vendor mentioned on here somewhere by a few people as being reputable.

I'm guessing that the vendor is inconsistent or has changed somehow.

I've tried making the tea many ways, but never noticed much of anything from the pods. I've tried eating some of the mush after making the tea, but still virtually nothing.

It's kind of turned me off of the whole thing. I'm reluctant to try another vendor, but if I knew of a sure thing I'd get it. I've never been into taking pills, so I've not done opiates much, but this seemed like a great way to try it.

It seems pretty crazy to start selling bunk pods if you have a clientèle built up...unless maybe they only sell the bunk to new customers.

[Oblivion]

peacegrow, how many pods did you grind up for tea? were they giant pods?

[peacegrow]

I think they were described as giant when I bought them...but not sure.

They seem to have about 1.5 to 1.8 inch diameters.

I started with just 2, but since then have had 4 at a time. One day 4 twice.

I grind them pretty finely in a coffee grinder. At first I just steeped like tea, but then tried simmering for up to an hour. Filtered through cheese cloth.

I have 4 left. I think I'll make them right not maybe. They may have a mild effect, but it's so mild that it's hard to distinguish from placebo.

(edit: yes, giant. checked the site and invoice. they say they average 2 inches on the site, which might be right.)

[Oblivion]

Ive bought them from alot of sources but if you got a bag of 12 I know where you got them from. If you want, PM me the supplier so we dont bash any of topia's advertisers. Anyway, if it's who I think it is, that is a good supplier although they arent an advertiser here. Try to drink your tea on an empty stomach. It could take up to an hour or even a little longer to take effect. If youre new to opium, 4 pods should have made you puke so be careful. Next time you get pods, consider extracting for accurate dosage. When making tea, youve done the hard part of simple extraction(which isnt hard at all). You only need to let the tea evaporate in a glass tray for your opium tar. Make sure the water is fully evaporated otherwise youll have a real sticky mess to deal with. It can be hastened in an oven with the door slightly cracked and the temp set to 180F. 2g of tar does the trick for me on a once a week usage. From 12 pods less seeds, you can get 8-12g of tar. This eliminates the guesswork and makes for a safer buzz.
Dont give up!

[Looky]

Originally Posted by Oblivion

When making tea, youve done the hard part of simple extraction(which isnt hard at all). You only need to let the tea evaporate in a glass tray for your opium tar. Make sure the water is fully evaporated otherwise youll have a real sticky mess to deal with. It can be hastened in an oven with the door slightly cracked and the temp set to 180F. 2g of tar does the trick for me on a once a week usage. From 12 pods less seeds, you can get 8-12g of tar.

So you can extract a smokeable tar from tea?

[jwmyspace2000]

are you on any medication even OTC? i did a little reserach and i think that the alks dont actually dissolve in the water to make a "tea" solution but its actually a suspension of opium that is sort of washed out of the pods. in this theory i believe a drip coffee maker would work better than just brewing in pot.

[Looky]

Yeah, why?

So if it were to go through a drip coffee pot and filter then that tea could be evaporated down to a smokeable substance?

[jwmyspace2000]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

Yeah, why?

was talking to OP becasue he said he had no effects

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

So if it were to go through a drip coffee pot and filter then that tea could be evaporated down to a smokeable substance?

smoking O is a waste and no you could'nt get a potent enough smokeable product, i was just sayin it would be better for tea to use a drip coffee maker.

[Looky]

Grind up poppy in a coffee grinder, seeds too, or empty the seeds first or it doesn't matter?

[rocketman]

makes no difference, although the seeds can be used to plant next year.

[Looky]

That's what I was thinking. There isn't really any goodies in the seeds from what I understand, so it would be better to save all my seeds instead. Also, is a coffee grinder necessary or is just crushing it up with your hand sufficient? I have a coffee grinder, so that isn't a problem if that would be better. Thanks

[EvilxInc]

Coffee grinder is best, the finer it is ground the more surface area there is, which will aid in the extraction. Get it as powdered as possible, wont hurt it at all just use it right away.

SWIM has done lots of experimenting with pods, goo, ice-o-lateing, fogles ladrum etc... he says nothing beats a good batch of tea or eating the whole pod(milkshakes are good or hippes yogart tek ummmm)

I do have to say fogles tek does make a nice specialty liqure for special ocasions though.

here is fogles ladrum tek if anyone was wondering what it was, sorry if i am not supose to link like this.
http://adh.2.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=305

[jwmyspace2000]

the size of grounds depends on how your going to be extracting it(tea,laudanum/laudrum,tar).

[Looky]

Well the tar that you'd extract form 2? pods, isn't smokeable right? Would it be better or more effective if you were to just drink the tea with the powder instead of straining it through a coffee filter? Is eating a pod in yogurt more effective than making a tea? Sorry for all the questions, I think that's all of them.

I don't mind the taste of the tea at all.

1 last question. I made tea from 2 pods..... What is a lethal dose, so that I know not to use that many? It seems like I could use quite a few.

[jwmyspace2000]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

Well the tar that you'd extract form 2? pods, isn't smokeable right? Would it be better or more effective if you were to just drink the tea with the powder instead of straining it through a coffee filter? Is eating a pod in yogurt more effective than making a tea? Sorry for all the questions, I think that's all of them.

I don't mind the taste of the tea at all.

1 last question. I made tea from 2 pods..... What is a lethal dose, so that I know not to use that many? It seems like I could use quite a few.

questions are good,i love answering and learning is always good,keep asking. most of the things you asked depends on tolerance.you might get enough to smoke from 2 pods if you extracted EVERYTHING and had a low tolerance,small amounts of alks are lost in the process, if your going for smokeable tar use alot of pods.it would definetly be better to just consume the pods,alot better.yogurt is just to mask the taste sorta like jell-o shots i dont see that it has any advantages over water. mixing it with water would help with absorbtion but could also make you urinate it out,its your call. you cant determine lethal dose by pod,dose varies greaty pod by pod, the thing to do is take ALL your pods and grind and blend them so you have an average dose and then experiement with doses.

[Looky]

Cool, thanks. I think I got a tolerance in just a couple of days. Pretty crazy. Maybe I just need to eat the shit. I'm thinking that maybe I would get more.?. out of vaporizing some smoke.?. I've only had tea 3 times, but it isn't coming close to the first time I had tea, and the first time was only 1 pod. I guess I will wait awhile and see if tolerance goes down. Would you know that you are approaching a lethal dose before you got there? I had 2 pods yesterday, but felt like I could have had at least 6 more. IDK

[jwmyspace2000]

Originally Posted by Lookyhere

Would you know that you are approaching a lethal dose before you got there?

i dont think you would know, you would just fall asleep and stop breathing.
there havent been many overdoses with just tea, there was a kid who overdosed on poppy see tea but he injested 2 liters worth and was found to have several other drugs,THC,xanax,bennedryll,hydrocodone.the signs of a coming overdose are, difficulty breathing, heart rate very slow or very fast, thats about it anymore effects than that and you cant really do anything about it.also if you have any conditions that cause you to have trouble breathing or heart problems you could easily overdose.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp_c#Death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Screw#Death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Moe
http://poppyseedtea.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_edema

[AndyLandy420]

i boil plenty, no effect on potency ime. add grounds to boiling water, let simmer for 5 minutes, i like to add cinnamin and sugar to make it taste less funky. filter with coarse strainer then coffee filter. 4 littles pods lays me out, 6 strait puts me to sleep, would never dream of exceeding 15.

[cheech]

Originally Posted by AndyLandy420

i boil plenty, no effect on potency ime. add grounds to boiling water, let simmer for 5 minutes, i like to add cinnamin and sugar to make it taste less funky. filter with coarse strainer then coffee filter. 4 littles pods lays me out, 6 strait puts me to sleep, would never dream of exceeding 15.

you one of the lucky ones andy. opies wire me up. stay awake, want to wash the garage and shit. ime those like me have a big addiction potential. those like you get off easier. i really wish that a need for opiates was treated like diabetics need for insulin. i do much better on them than off. work better, more energy, better attitude, deal with folks better. not too bad without, but shit it's medicine that improves the lifestyle (well if legal would be). there's a polarity here. some folks want to sleep, the others get active. there are funtional addicts, not all junkies are trash.
rant mode off

[twoguysupnorth]

well i got my first pods the other day and can say that i like them very much. one thing when talking about pods too is that the turkish that were sent in a sample were tiny compaired to the ovalies, so in no way could one pod of one equal one of the other. i enjoyed myself on 1 large pod or 2. and 1 pod eaten in yogurt surely lasted longer and stronger than the strained tea. i would have liked to expieriment farther but i was trying to find the right dose for pain since i cant always count on a dr for daily pain relief. i quit taking the 7.5 vicoprophens (2 a day) for both days of the pods and was relieved very well. good to know that there is something out there you dont need to go to the docs for. this was just my expierience though.

[Looky]

I just ground up 1 1/2 pods and put it into hot Tostitos queso...... Bad idea, that shit was horrible. I gagged twice and thought I was going to lose it on the last time. Anyway, don't do what I did. I don't have yogurt, so I figured that this would work well.... Well I was wrong.

Question: The stems that the poppy pods are on, keep em or toss em? Are they active at all?

[twoguysupnorth]

hey looky, i guess the straw/stem is almost as good as the rest. from reading different things, alot say they just mix it in.

[Looky]

Cool. I threw out my first 2, but I kept all the others. I'll try making a tea from the straw stems solely and see what I think.

[FDK]

Anyone with thoughts on this variety? Was thinking of getting a small patch going and trying a trick I read where they would top the plant before it went to seed which resulted in a cluster of pods forming



Says it's in the Papaver somniferum family??

[rocketman]

Looks like a run of the mill poppy, but 50 seeds for 3 bucks it isnt cheap. check out our vendors line of seeds. Jl hudson seeds are quite good, and much cheaper than your source.

[FDK]

Yea, I'm mainly considering this source as it's a "local" brick & mortar supplier & there were other things I was going to pick up (I really try to avoid shopping online or thru mail) Thou a google search linked to a couple other forums where they claimed the Hungarian Blue variety to have a decent pod-effect / alkaloid content.

Definatly going to browse the JL hudson site thou, pretty interesting.

[twoguysupnorth]

this is the first yr i have seen peony poppies for sale but you are right, they are in the right classification and should work. i am going to try them next yr. if you wanted to do trades and stuff or ask for some, the people who have seeds seem to have alot of them, myself included. they produce abundant seed from a single pod.

[FDK]

i am going to try them next yr. if you wanted to do trades and stuff

Sounds like a plan friend I'll let ya' know when I get results (Figure I'll try to grow a few indoors over winter to see how things go)

Also, a thought occoured to me. From everything I've read on the pod's it seems that the seeds themselves dont contain any great quantity of the alkaloid, in fact I've had some muffins which were quite loaded with seed and naturally felt nothing "special" from them, and yet if one eat's enough of these, they will piss dirty?!? So theres got to be some alkaloids present,,,

Could it be perhaps that there is something present in the seeds themselves which might cause a dampening-off of the effect? Mabey when crushing pods up it would be best to harvest the seed prior to making the powder and omitting them from the tea entirely? Just a thought.

[twoguysupnorth]

cool. i did read about someone taking a crap load of seeds and making tea from it but it was like more than a lb of seeds. i saved the seeds from mine because i wanted to plant them and honestly bake with them too. lemon poppyseed cake,mmm. i guess some people that dont want seeds just include them but i would just crack the stem off the bottom and empty them into a bag for whatever purposes. good luck with your witer grow. this yr i grew tazmanian, hens and chicks and ovalies. not too many but just to see how they would do. next yr i have to plan for a bigger area and different flavors,lol. they really are pretty. hit me up whenever you want some seeds.

[procell]

Originally Posted by FDK

Also, a thought occoured to me. From everything I've read on the pod's it seems that the seeds themselves dont contain any great quantity of the alkaloid, in fact I've had some muffins which were quite loaded with seed and naturally felt nothing "special" from them, and yet if one eat's enough of these, they will piss dirty?!? So theres got to be some alkaloids present,,,

For the last tea seed thread

Please read the whole post, unforseen dangers in this route.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanica...-seed-tea.html (crush the seeds for poppy seed tea?)

[FDK]

Thank you for the concern Sir

SWIM was however more considering omitting the seeds entirely and sticking with the hulls, starting with 1 pod and working his way up gradually,

Mabey when crushing pods up it would be best to harvest the seed prior to making the powder and omitting them from the tea entirely? Just a thought.