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Old 10-30-03, 15:06   #1 (permalink)
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Anybody have a link to some poppies info? Thanks for the help.
 
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Old 10-30-03, 15:10   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-30-03, 15:54   #3 (permalink)
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plenty info in the archives, too,
as well as the botanicals forum.
use the search function.
it's a bit late for this year in the northern hemisphere but early next spring
you should be good to go.
 
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Old 10-30-03, 16:29   #4 (permalink)
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If you want a steady supply of drieds, try

http://www.liyf.net/poppy/

Fresh poppies are either easy to grow or very difficult, it all depends upon your climate.

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Old 10-30-03, 16:30   #5 (permalink)
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Of course, the mother of all poppy sites:

http://www.poppies.org

Enjoy
 
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Old 10-30-03, 20:51   #6 (permalink)
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Wow thanks for all the links. I live in the midwest so it's rather cold right now. But in the summer and late spring I may be able to get something going.
 
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Old 10-30-03, 21:33   #7 (permalink)
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Sharkie, have fun growing your own pods - I don't want to discourage you one bit. But if you want convenience, the drieds are the real deal, straight from Turkey, India, etc, chock full of ethno yummies in large qty. Unlike Psilo, opiates in drieds are stable and can last decades.
 
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Old 10-30-03, 23:42   #8 (permalink)
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Does anyone know of any legal purcussions regarding this kind of thing? I would be interested but don't want some feds knocking on my door with me package.
 
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Old 10-31-03, 08:39   #9 (permalink)
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the feds rarely get involved,
you're far more likely to encounter local authorities.
poppies are a bit like your san pedro or spores legally.
they are legal to possess and grow,
but it is illegal to extract or consume the opium.
so while you need not worry about getting seeds or even planting a poppy patch in your flower beds,
just don't get seen 'milking' the pods and be sure to properly dispose of any 'evidence' of your harvesting the pods.
 
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Old 10-31-03, 16:13   #10 (permalink)
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Dried poppy pod tea is the most addictive substance
I've ever encountered. My only suggestion would
be to pace yourself CAREFULLY...

I know it sounds lame and ridiculous, but keep in
mind that those pods have all the alkaloids that
are in morphine, codiene, herion, etc. Several hundred in any given pod.

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Old 10-31-03, 17:15   #11 (permalink)
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Can you explain the dried pods thing to me? I really don't know much about this subject. How do you get drieds? Are they illegal?Thanks for any info.
 
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Old 10-31-03, 18:09   #12 (permalink)
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Sharkie, I PM'ed you. And this post isn't necessarily directed at you but at any Mycotopian interested.

Soliver speaks the truth. Dried pod T is an organic (as nature intended) mix of primarily morphine, codeine, thebaine, papaverine, and many others in decreasing percentages. It delivers a deep body glow that lasts a LONG time, as the alkaloids metabolize at different rates, and the overall effect of them combined is different from synthetic opies like Hydro. It is also incredibly insidious, and Mother O will make you her bitch before you realize it.

I don't mean to be preachy. We're all adults here who can make a decision. The drieds are readily available, potent, and easy to get. Check the first link I posted in the thread. Then read the "addiction and recovery" forum at poppies.org. Be armed with knowledge.

Drieds are legal... for dried flower arrangements. I have never had a shipment siezed. All you're doing is making a dried floral arrangement, right?

The pods are opened, deseeded, ground in a coffee blade grinder to powder and added to 1.5 pint boiling water + 3 tbs realemon. Remove pot from heat; steep for 1/2 hour. Strain and drink. The taste is hideous... it helps to have fruit like an apple on hand (munch between and during gulps) to mask the taste. 40 minutes and you'll feel it in your belly. 2 hours in = peak. Fine body glow for 6 to 10 hours. Dosage may be adjusted anywhere from mild opie buzz to a deep nod to death.

For the opiate naieve (no tolerance), drink 1/3 of your T, AND WAIT NO LESS THAN 1.5 HOURS. If you aren't where you want to be, drink the next third, etc.

It takes a strong-willed person to chip successfully for any length of time. If you do two a month, you will probably not get a monkey. More than that, and you will likely begin to rationalize and do more.

Again, sorry to sound so preachy. Take care all.

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Old 11-01-03, 15:51   #13 (permalink)
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Hey Thidwick I sent you a PM thanks.
 
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Old 11-04-03, 17:17   #14 (permalink)
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you can buy poppies on ebay.then you can make poppy straw concentrate.basicly morphine..stronger than tea..look it up on google!
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Old 11-04-03, 19:09   #15 (permalink)
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Been on the Morphine/Opiate ride before, lets just say I'd rather walk. One of my famous quotes
"Death never felt so good".

That’s just me but hey, we are all different and adults here and capable of making or own decisions.

Just learn all you can before hand.







 
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Old 11-05-03, 14:03   #16 (permalink)
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Wil Tasmanian poppies do the "trick"?
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Old 11-05-03, 14:26   #17 (permalink)
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and then some,please read all that you can and be careful.as jinzo said, been on that ride before and death never felt so good he nailed it completely!!
 
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Old 11-05-03, 14:57   #18 (permalink)
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I've had black tar opium and I loved it. I am really interested...but I have no place outdoors to grow and I live in an Apt. Can someone let me know if its hard to grow indoors...and if it takes a lot of poppies for a little O?
 
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Old 11-05-03, 20:42   #19 (permalink)
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Great post Moose -

Poppy T. will indeed make you a slave sooner than
you think - many over at poppies.org learned
(the hard way) not to indulge more than once every two months . . . twice a month is pushing your luck, IMO, unless you want to mess with an
ugly habit.

The habit is easy to maintain - sickeningly easy.
It's the stopping that becomes the problem.
Withdrawls from PT are horrible - worse than the
worst flu you ever had, and the only cure (besides time) is
more tea.

Starts with a slight habit, a glass a week...
then you get feeling a touch of a cold . . .
PT will kill that, right?
Then it's a glass every two days,
then you're fucked, running around to local florists,
junky style, dying because your shipment from the
pod warehouse got stuck in Atlanta . . .

Again, not to preach, but shrooms are WAY safer and
a lot more fun... hell, I used shrooms to kick the
PT habit - I was directed here from poppies.org
originally, over a year ago.

Have fun and do your thing, but be safe -
that silly little glass of tea can fuck you up
big time if you're not really careful.

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Old 11-05-03, 20:57   #20 (permalink)
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I am me: Yes it takes quite a few pods to get any smokable amount of opium. Come harvest time you'd be surprised at how small of an amount each pod yields. Course I've never had giant 4 foot plants with baseball sized pods either...
 
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Old 11-05-03, 22:22   #21 (permalink)
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Hrmmm does ordering dried pods and making tea have an effect close to opium?
 
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Old 11-06-03, 01:03   #22 (permalink)
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Yes, probably better because every bit of alkaloid is ingested.
 
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Old 11-06-03, 08:24   #23 (permalink)
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Just out of curiousity, as this sounds pretty scary, about what amount of ground seeds are used per pot of tea?
 
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Old 11-06-03, 18:37   #24 (permalink)
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Seeds aren't used, its the pods themselves that are ground up.
 
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Old 11-06-03, 18:50   #25 (permalink)
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And it depends on the size of the pods -
the first time I tried it, the recipie I got
online said to boil 12 pods to make enough tea for
three people.

I'm lucky I didn't kill myself - I drank 1/2 the dose,
cause' I'm a hardhead - had the best 6 hours of my
life then spent the next 12 in a feverish haze,
rolling around in bed scratching at my skin till
I bled in places...

The next afternoon I drank 1/2 the dose to help with
the pain . . . did I mention I'm an idiot?
The second dose really took, and there I went. PT can
also turn you into an asshole after a few weeks - hard to explain,
but it just changes you somehow, and not for the better.

But if you insist, start with 2-3 medium pods, drink
1/2 the dose.
If you have jumbo pods, start with one and drink 1/2 the dose.
You can reuse the grounds and extract roughly 1/2 the beginning
dose on the second run (i.e., boil the grounds and drink it all for the same dose)

good luck & don't say I didn't tell you so


Poppies are druugs . . .
Drugs are bad - M'kay?
Any questions hmm? M'kay?

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Old 11-06-03, 20:06   #26 (permalink)
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<font color="0000ff">Didn't know all that. Good advise guys.</font>
 
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Old 11-07-03, 00:35   #27 (permalink)
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Soliver, your avatar cracks me up!!! Just thought I'd share.


 
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Old 11-07-03, 08:47   #28 (permalink)
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on tasmanian poppies...
see http://opium.poppies.org/index.php?s=97b9b87910ef5 c4ce5d71e7829d769b2&amp;act=ST&amp;f=9&amp;t=5310& amp;st=0&amp;#entry5 1131
they work.
and you can make seed tea, too.
takes alot of seed, though.
 
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Old 11-07-03, 09:46   #29 (permalink)
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My understanding of seed use is that the O content you get from any seed decoction is based upon opium gum being deposited on the skins of the seeds from bruised or damaged pods, and the interior of the seeds themselves have little or no opiates.

In other words, if a few bugs start munching on a pod, besides getting really mellow, they'll cause the active sap from the damaged pod to flow internally, and coat some of the seeds. The O then remains as hardened gum on the skins of the seeds. The seeds are simply the vector for you to get the Opium gum coating into your system.

There are problems with the use of seeds. If the seed packer thoroughly washes the seeds, the O content will be very low. On the opposite end, there are reports of bulk asian and mid-eastern seeds which are unwashed and can send you to dreamland. Dosing with seeds is inconsistent, and with opies this can be a hazard.

 
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Old 11-07-03, 15:07   #30 (permalink)
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You are correct sir . . .

Seed tea is certainly inconsistent, unless you're using your own seeds

Thanks Jinzo - it's a pic of Salvador Dali - besides having a
cool name, he's a cool looking dude.

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