Poppy Tar extract

[M&M420]

While I must say that the tea does seem to be the best way of consuming in the sense of getting most of the actives without degradation at the same time.But the tar is good for travel and if you don't like the taste of poppy tea.This took me about a day and a half but I guess it could have been pushed to be done in one day.I started out with 10 large taz pods which had a beautiful bluish-purplish hue to them.I then proceeded to grind them in the coffee grinder to a dust resulting in around 50 grams.I would suggest letting it sit for about 10 minutes to let the dust settle.The powder was mixed in a quart jar with 2 cups of boiling water and let stand for 30 - 45 minutes.It was then strained through a piece of tshirt.This was repeated a total of 3 times.

This liquid was put into a 12'' pan and was set on just above low for 3 to 4 hours.I checked the temp with a meat thermometer and it read 125 F.I'm not so sure how accurate it was but this will give you a idea of what temp it was at.I noticed that if you don't stir every so often a skin will form on top that I'm guessing is bad so stir every 30 minutes.I was left with a very dark liquid that looked to have a little sediment in it.It was then transferred to a glass baking dish where the evaporation was aided by hot water baths at 170 F.The last little bit was allowed to evap with no heat.

I was left with 14 grams of very hard tar and 4 grams of small amber flakes from where the dish was not level but these can be compressed back into chunks of tar.I swallowed around 3 grams about 5 hours ago and am still feeling very good other than the non stop itching.But do keep in mind that even though my tolerance is low I would suggest starting much lower unless you like be scared to fall asleep.In the end it was a lot of leg work but a easy to work with product.I've done both the water and the alcohol extract and the water extract is much easier to handle IMO.It's actually pretty hard stuff and just seems to leave a oily feeling to your fingers.Sorry about the pics but my digital camera was broken and I was forced to used my phone.Anyway I hope you enjoy

[Rhyno]

Are you going to try to smoke any of this?

[dead_diver]

Yes, I'm wondering if a smokable extract could be made also.

[M&M420]

Well Yeah I did initially try to smoke the powder on some tinfoil with a straw but it isn't what you would think.I mean the taste ain't bad and it doesn't hurt your lungs but it just doesn't get you messed up as if you were to eat it.The most I felt was the really relaxed feeling and a head space but no itching or painkilling effects.Which that was only taking 5 or 6 hits.I was figuring that I should have a extremly smaller dose because of it hitting you a lot faster as opposed to the slow absortion of it in your stomach.I only tried smoking it once and I've already compressed the smaller flakes into balls but the next time I do this I will leave some to the side just for this.However I do remember reading somewhere on here about a method of making smokable extract by partially freezing the tea.I'll see if I can dig it up for you real fast

[Rhyno]

Thanks!

[M&M420]

Ain't no problem man.I manage to find this being referenced a few times but not actually found an account of someone trying it with successful results on this board.If memory serves me right this was originally posted on the the PORG where it was tried succesfully by several people.I think there was some debate on it wasting a substantial amount of product though.This method has been floating around for some time and is not very popular so there is got to be some reason why that is.

After some experimenting I have come up with a new method to obtain a smokeable product from tea. Or rather, how to extract opium from pods either fresh or dry.

1. Take pods, dried or fresh, and freeze them
2. Add 4 parts water for each 1 part pod material into a blender and grind it up good
3. Pour it over in a mug or similar, stirr it well for some minutes, then let it sit for about 1 hour in room temp.
4. strain it to discard the biggest chunks, use a strainer with fairly big holes.
5. Fill the upper brown and most clear layer over into a bottle, let the rest stay in the mug
6. Extract the goo and particles left in the mug with more water, like was done with the pods in step 2 and 3.
7. strain and pour this solution also over into the bottle
8. Shake bottle and put in a freezer (Dont cap the bottle, could explode if pressure expands it while freezing)
9. When half the solution in the bottle has frozen filtrate it with a cloth (t-shirts work fine) and discard the ice.
10. Put the solution back into bottle, shake it well, freeze it down again like in step 8 and 9.
11. Take this second filtrated solution and evaporate it in a pot placed in a larger pot with cooking water (warm bath)
12. The brown substance left in the smaller pot when evaporated, sometimes a bit like mexican tar, can be smoked.

This type of Morphine salt extracted with this method is highly soluble in cold water
No need for any acidic chemicals in the process, no ascorbic acid, lemon juice, etc. This makes it less soluble.
The morphine stays in the water, the junk in the ice that you discard.

[BeardedLadysLady]

I was just trying to think of new ways of ingesting poppy pods. We have been drinking the tea for a while now, which is okay, but I have to add a flavored tea and a bunch of sugar to get it down. I just tried grinding up the pods in to a powder and adding it to a smoothie. I tasted the smoothie and poured it out. I could not get that down.


I think this will be the next method I try. Thank you very much!

[lost_onabbey_rd]

i have tried this method and an iso extract with pods and so far have not found anything that is "smokeable"

[burrittomann]

what if you added your tar to basified water, then did xylene/toulene pulls, and evaporated it
wouldnt that leave you with a smokable product?