are you offended? because i am..

[vigilante]

ever been sarcastic to people, where you fucked around like you seemed to be hostile and they just like take you to being an asshole? yeah. that sucks... its like "chill man, i was just makin a joke" and what if it was just some asshole comment because uyou weren't particularly all there? and then not given the chance to apologize? yeah...

I guess my point is... why are people so quick to judge and be pissy? it takes too much energy to get mad and yeah. persicute without attempting to settle things... tottally unchill man.

[Hippie3]

because sarcastic humor is often just a mask for latent hostility,
allowing a person to insult yet deny
'i was joking'
doesn't take away the sting,
it just escapes the blame

[siam_jim]

as they say "the dye has cast" damage is done, joking is fine but there's a fine line on joking and offending. it does hurt, for example i had a friend and his father was always getting on him and calling names like you "little ****+++" then afterwards he would say " you know son i didn't mean that or i was just kidding" but i could see in his eyes he was still hurting. just my 2cents.


siam

[vigilante]

yeah thats true. but not all sarcasm is masked. you could say the same about everyday life. people pretend and fake being nice adn polite. but yueah i find myself rather sarcastic about everything. i guess that is why im never taken seriously heh.

[oibchip]

Sarcasim definetely has it's place and timing in dialouge. If one doesn't choose the appropraite situation and timing to insert sarcasim into converation it can be just plain obnoxious and a definite sign of the lack of intelligent ideas. Like you said, "no wonder noone takes me seriously".

[waylitjim]

Originally Posted by vigilante

people pretend and fake being nice adn polite. but yueah i find myself rather sarcastic about everything.

This is why your other acct here was banned recently. You have to make an effort to integrate into this community. Harsh comments and posts may get you quick attention, but not any kind of lasting respect.

[vigilante]

respect? isnt that like a fairy tale like chivalry? naw im just playin, but really there is no respect anymore anywhere. Well yeah she isnt gonna get respect posting her pix either. that just makes her more of a bastard. naw im not pvf ... im like her best friend though. we grew up together. we'll be going to the same college this year. thats gonna be sweet because i ahvnt seen her since like a few weeks ago but before that it was like years.

[waylitjim]

good try.

[LotRev]

I'm all about saying what needs to be said and what you want to say...but you better be ready to take the responses. I would have to say that sarcasm rarely has a place in the online community - people tend to not hear the inflection used or meant, but instead create their own inflection for you - in most cases, its not the correct inflection intended, which in turn can start conflict. I have said a couple things around here that I have been jumped on for, and I think its better to just avoid those things at all costs (I try to stick to the things I know and need to know now). One sarcastic joke isn't worth losing the mycotopia environment.

[siam_jim]

Originally Posted by vigilante

but really there is no respect anymore anywhere.

there are still respect. a lot depends on who you hang out with..sad but true. also when you can..... go traveling to another country. you'll be suprise respect is still alive//..

siam

[oibchip]

"but really there is no respect anymore anywhere."

I agree that the level of respect most people have for others has declined alot since I was a kid. But to say that there isn't any respect anywhere anymore only proves to me that you have very little or none for yourself.

[vigilante]

Originally Posted by LotRev

I would have to say that sarcasm rarely has a place in the online community - people tend to not hear the inflection used or meant, but instead create their own inflection for you - in most cases, its not the correct inflection intended, which in turn can start conflict. I have said a couple things around here that I have been jumped on for, and I think its better to just avoid those things at all costs (I try to stick to the things I know and need to know now). One sarcastic joke isn't worth losing the mycotopia environment.

definately. how can you observe a particular tone when communicating online? you cant because sarcasm is emitted vocally. so online, it is just an annoying impulsive remark usually in response to something irritating.

Impulsive behavior is in fact immature or rather disrespectful, or both. Being impulsibve you obviously don't think before you do so thus offending and disrespecting the general public happens and sometimes is done on purpose. but do those who disrespect or have no concern for the public, they dont deserve it back correct? or do they deserve it, they just need help to prove that the world is decent enough to respect stilll.

[SharkieJones]

Well I've gotten headaches from trying to decipher poor writing. Also exclamation points and angry ignorant content is easy to see.

[LotRev]

Should they get respect back? Well that's where the individual comes in. The question is not should THEY get respect, but the question is will I give them respect. That choice is each individuals and can reflect greatly or poorly on that person.

I try to keep a "do your thing, and let others do theirs" type of mentality. As with everyone, that doesn't always come out the way I would like, but I try anyway. Let's help eachother if we can, and if we can't...then don't bother me if I am causing no harm, and I will do the same for you.

[Hidra]

how can you observe a particular tone when communicating online?

after lots of years reading online boards, beleive me, you can...

[siam_jim]

"LotRrev" there's a concept...do on to others as you would like it done to you. i could write a book on this. very true...to get respect is to give, usually.

siam

[LotRev]

Originally Posted by siam_jim

very true...to get respect is to give, usually.

Not starting wildfires here, but I think this thread is a prime example of everything this thread is talking about...if you know what I mean.

[vigilante]

Respect - !. To feel or show diferential regard for; esteem. 2. To avoid violation of or interference with. E.I repsct the speed limit. 3. To relate or refer to; concern.



You know what is ironic? all these goth/emo kids bitch about how mean people are to them and how no one cares about them, when people who do care and try to show they do , they get rejected by the hurt ones. then tehy continue to bitch and then they exhibit no empathy for anyone else and treat them like crap, but yet expect people to care and make their life better. we should all just love one another. we should all be like abraham maslow ..

Hate is such a vicious cycle. I say lets break it eh?

[LotRev]

Originally Posted by vigilante

You know what is ironic? all these goth/emo kids bitch about how mean people are to them and how no one cares about them, when people who do care and try to show they do , they get rejected by the hurt ones. then tehy continue to bitch and then they exhibit no empathy for anyone else and treat them like crap, but yet expect people to care and make their life better. we should all just love one another. we should all be like abraham maslow ..

Hate is such a vicious cycle. I say lets break it eh?

If we are to break this cycle...we should first stop stereotyping goth/emo kids - and then stop stereotyping other people emotions - and then maybe show a little love instead of just talking about it.

And since inflection is so difficult online, I will clarify - What you are saying is starting the cycles, and not attempting to break them.

[siam_jim]

goto start somewhere at some point..it's not going to take 1 or few times to get across. can't build thing like that in a short time.

btw my son (20) is into goth and he has respect towards others. not saying this because i'm his father but from the mouths of people in town. and he gets respect in turn.

siam

[vigilante]

Originally Posted by LotRev

Not starting wildfires here, but I think this thread is a prime example of everything this thread is talking about...if you know what I mean.

now whats that supposed to mean? hmm... am i being sarcastic and offending? or we all offending each other on the concept of offending people through sarcasm? lol blasphemy.

[LotRev]

Originally Posted by vigilante

My friend, I've got nothing to prove to you, nor do I have any beef with you. I've got nothing more to say on this thread. We all dig our own graves.

[BuckarooBanzai]

Originally Posted by LotRev

We all dig our own graves.

Some simply choose to dig them with a bull dozer...

[Hippie3]

in this case
i'd say she went with
dynamite

[Lefty]

PVF, you should respect us w/spell check, which would also hide your unique typing flaws. Good luck wit yer head, kid. Think you are going to need it.

[siam_jim]

PVF Everyone wants respect; it’s not a giving right. You get what you put in, if you want to be thought-less to others you will get the same in return, give yourself another 10-20 years and your view of life will change and not being so rebel-ish. Going thru life feeling someone owes you a life will never get you anywhere.

Try not giving respect to the person that gives you your paycheck. You’d be amazed. it’s nothing complicated of what respect can do.

Siam

[tbonus]

I've got a headache thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssssss big and it has exedrin !written all over it!

[siam_jim]

G13 is better

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

because sarcastic humor is often just a mask for latent hostility,
allowing a person to insult yet deny
'i was joking'
doesn't take away the sting,
it just escapes the blame

Hippie3 shows us once again why he's the big dog on this porch.

Thanks for summing it up in a nutshell, Hip, it was something I needed to hear/read.

[Lefty]

I'm pretty adept at conveying emotions in script, but when I fuck up it's usually a large misunderstanding. I have made that mistake here, but almost always I mean exactly what I say (if not as brutal as it used to be, but you should have seen Hip in R&R not soo long ago).

[BuckarooBanzai]

Hippies, like fine wine and good scotch, mellow with age!

[PSyChOViXeNFaIrY616]

Hey buckaroobonzai, I was held by stephen King as a baby on a televised telethon :-P. My mother went to school with him as well. Just thought that was cool. and uh so you saying ill mellow w/ age?

[Hippie3]

only if you live that long...

[PSyChOViXeNFaIrY616]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

only if you live that long...

LOL you talking to me? Someone upstairs really wants me to live. he wont let me die. lol Ive had a handful of close calls within the last 2 years haha....

I think Ill make it to 40. Maybe. I dont wanna live past 70 anyways. Id rather not get old. Id have experienced enough of the world by then. and one thing that definately curbs my hatred and aggression is those peaceful mushrooms and a bag of bud.. seems to do the trick.