International War Criminal!!!!

[Lefty]

Check this out...Reuters has an article, which I can't seem to link to, that Rumsfeld may avoid Germany due to a 160 page indictment for war crimes! Also George Tenet & an ex-US commander are named. Amazing. Someone w/more computer knowledge/different browser find this please...

lol
germany voted itself 'universal jurisdiction'
and they have the gall to criticize us
as interventionists ?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=58 4&ncid=584&e=16&u=/nm/20050203/pl_nm/germany_usa_r umsfeld_dc

of course the complaint itself was filed by american traitors.

[Lefty]

But do they have the jurisdiction to hold a high US official, if he went into their country? Wasn't soo long ago Israel was kidnapping ex-nazis in a fashion that would have had them screaming in hordes at the U.N. if someone did it to one of their citizens.
Still think it's bullshit anyone of Jewish faith can flee a capital crime & be tried under Israeli law if they make it there. Wonder if anyone ever converted on the plane to Israel?
Traitors to some but human rights are just that...

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and they have the gall to criticize us
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Yes.
It's an awfully big step to go from enforcing international law when a wanted criminal is found on your soil, to launching a war half way around the world on false pretences.

Traitors?

So, I take it if the cops beat the shit out of you and your wife after a traffic stop, any lawyer or prosecutor who helped you obtain justice from the cops is a traitor. Interesting.

seeking a warrant in a foreign court instead of an american court ?
but it really comes as no great surprise
that y'all would approve.
still i'll wager 'tis to no avail.
it was not an official german indictement,
instead it's more like a civil suit
anyone can file frivoluous suits.
the german court won't dare to try to enforce it
or arrest anyone.
it's just more
theater of the absurd and frustrated
bet on that.

(Message edited by admin on February 05, 2005)

[Lefty]

Whoa, Hip. I pass no judgement here. If an indictment has been passed down by an INTERNATIONAL court it probably has some merit and in any case will be interesting to see how it plays out, even as a civil suit. If he's too chickenshit to face it, maybe he knows of his possible guilt.
The events in question took place outside of the U.S., I think jurisdiction is definitely at international level. Also, the highest executive officer is ultimately as responsible as his underlings.

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If an indictment has been passed down by an INTERNATIONAL court <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
but
that is NOT the case here,
if you read the article closely.
the complaint was filed by private citizens,
there was no indictment issued by any court.

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do they have the jurisdiction to hold a high US official, if he went into their country? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

the real question
in my mind
is
do they have the balls ?

and i don't believe that they do.

anyone of Jewish faith can flee a capital crime &amp; be tried under Israeli law if they make it there. Hey, how do I go about this "conversion" thing? Sounds like a sweet deal to me LOL

[Lefty]

Ask Madonna, she did it.

"of course the complaint itself was filed by american traitors."

No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country, we're patronizing a hero

Ask Madonna, she did it.

Ask her where she got that English accent from, too. I want one.

[Lefty]

Ask the N.Y. Knicks, she did most of them right before she cultivated that. Not even well, sounds ridiculous on her. Incorporated several different regional dialects, totally mangling it. As do most American fakers.

huh?

[Lefty]

The English accent Mr. Rabbit, she cultivated it during/right after she was bangin' most of the N.Y. pro basketball team. Tough to find a connection, but whatever.

btw
rummy did end up going to germany
after german prosecutors announced
that they were declining to act
on the complaint filed by those dissidents.
as i had predicted,
so it did occur.

[Lefty]

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the highest executive officer is ultimately as responsible as his underlings.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

and here we see the ultimate target,
bush himself.
it'll never happen.

[Lefty]

Someone may very well take it upon themselves as he is rather hated. I got $50 that says someone takes a crack at his ass before he's out of office. Feel free to double it...

he's more loved than hated,
plz see election results.

[Lefty]

Voting for one evil over another does not prove love. I feel national homophobia killed Kerry, but just my opinion.
Look at the protests, media attacks, thousands of Bush hating websites, and general international attitude toward the U.S. now. Bask in the love, can ya feel it?

[Lefty]

Oh, don't forget the fatwa on his head.

i'd be very careful even joking about such things.
don't wanna end up at gitmo do ya ?

[Lefty]

Well, Iran still has one on Salman Rushdie.
Yeah, Gitmo, a proud Republican accomplishment there. Wonder how many citizens are enjoying such accomadations. Atleast it's not in the U.S. Now U.S. navy ships in international waters, guess they enjoy the same legal blindspot with less cameras. Oh what a world we live in.

gitmo predates this administration
by several decades.
at least, the base itself
if not the prison camps.

[Lefty]

Yes, but camp X-ray &amp; Gitmo never made CNN soo often w/sordid tales. Maybe they should just stop letting people out. I heard today on CNN Bin Laden has a 65% approval rating in Pakistan. Thats better than Bush did in the elections.

cnn has bias,
witness the recent firing/resignation of
high level cnn exec e. preston
for lying blatantly at a conference
in europe
where he claimed american troops were targeting journalists.

[Lefty]

CNN didn't do the survey. But hey man, just lost my spirit right now. Not all of myself. Real heavy shit going on, don't know what to say & for me thats rare. Probably lurk for awhile, just seriously down. I'm sure well meet again bro, just might be a minute.

[Hippie3]

sorry to hear
hope you feel better soonest