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    Old 07-07-07, 03:23   #1 (permalink)
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    People worry too much, I think.

    I honestly think that most people worry needlessly. Worry can’t/doesn’t change things. Worry is a nonproductive response (IMHO).

    I believe that things are going to be all right. The time between today and when we reach “all right” as a group is long and damned bumpy (comparatively), but I stand by the core statement.

    Things are going to be all right.

    I could go a thousand different directions, I could argue points raised by a thousand philosophers far more eloquent than myself…but, instead, I choose to argue from an easily agreed upon (and most easily debated) direction: the lesson of human history.

    Human history has gotten us this far…what value in ignoring it?

    The common be all/end all “summation” of the different ages of humanity is simply expressed as, “time passed and things changed.”

    Aloha, Shalom, Namaste and Banzai.

    There is no need to worry, because it is going to be all right and worry only delays things.

    One way or the other, things are going to be all right, as they always have been.

    Life will find a way.

    I love you all. Peace to you and to those that dwell in your house.

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    Old 07-07-07, 03:46   #2 (permalink)
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    peace be with you too my brother.

    when i first read your post i wanted to argue about so many things, but the more i thought about it. the more i realize that i agree with you. things do have a way of working out over time.

    interesting post buck
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    Old 07-07-07, 06:18   #3 (permalink)
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    Old 07-07-07, 13:05   #4 (permalink)
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    Nice thing to read while waken baken into the new day, itd be nice to know less worry, just knowing it seems to pickle some things. Not puttin down the pickle or nuthin, but we should be dancing in the streets by now.


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    Old 07-07-07, 13:53   #5 (permalink)
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    You're absolutely right, Buck. The buddhists would say that worry is needless suffering. Plenty of real suffering in the world to feel, why add even more?

    We all do it, though.
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    Old 07-07-07, 20:27   #6 (permalink)
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    Go with the flow.

    Thats all I can say.
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    Old 07-07-07, 20:55   #7 (permalink)
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    true

    i'm with ya brother er sister...whatever you are...fellow human...

    people who worry tend to create things to worry about, thus tossing them into a seemingly endless loop of negativity...

    every single thing that happens is natural.
    and who should want to argue with nature?...not i....

    life seems to be about discovering who you are, and accepting everyone else for who they are...even if they are an empirical dictator with nuke fever and a heart filled with rage and rivers of blood...
    a beast like that is just another character in this freaking amazing real time picture show we call life...

    this is a great movie...can't wait to see how it ends.

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    Old 07-08-07, 14:57   #8 (permalink)
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    i too agree there is way too much worrying, but im gonna have to step in here and add a disagreement..

    i think seeing life as a movie is to be way too passive. a movie is something you sit back and watch and have no control over. if your like me and believe this is the only chance you get on earth, then heck im gonna go out there and make things happen the way i want to see them happen. i refuse to sit back and watch life go by and see history written by everyone but me. sure if everything happened as i wished but for 99.99% of humanity its not the case. but this doesnt mean i worry. say you werent going with the flow, that doesnt at all mean youre a worrier. so i just felt this was something important that shouldnt be forgotten.
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    Old 07-08-07, 15:13   #9 (permalink)
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    it's not a movie-
    it's a play
    and we are not just passive viewers
    but dramatic tragic actors,
    thrust into life's spotlight.
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    Old 07-08-07, 16:44   #10 (permalink)
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    Sometimes I find myself a helpless victim of worry. I find it ties itself to many emotions and life occurrences for me.

    I also found, when I let it go, after recognizing it, I can move freely about my life, feeling as though I get to guide my experience here in a small abstract way. My life is what I make of it, no sense worrying about what ifs and maybes.

    Much love to you Buckaroo! Peace to you and yours always!
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    Old 07-08-07, 17:39   #11 (permalink)
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    Im going to concure here a little bit

    Worrying can sometimes lead to insights or answers that might otherwise not come up. (Worrying about a jar's health, for example, can help push some one into reading more, or experimenting more to help manicure the procedure, and can lead to a fuller understanding)

    Fruitless worrying on things that can't be changed, now thats a shame.
    Even so, fruitless worrying can be conquered, and help a person become stronger for the conquering.

    Also, there is the concern of worrying too little.
    "I just dont care."
    Im sure alot of people have been murdered because the other person wasnt worried about it

    Is there a difference between caution and worry?
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    Old 07-08-07, 17:57   #12 (permalink)
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    I believe that things are going to be all right. The time between today and when we reach “all right” as a group is long and damned bumpy (comparatively), but I stand by the core statement.
    i have to say that the umbrella term of 'worry' includes different types.

    i believe one of the main factors pushing us as a society and species down the road towards 'all right' is worry. providing for future generations, desires for world peace, even simply not wanting to go hungry tomorrow...these can be seen as worrying our children wont survive, worrying we will destroy ourselves, and worrying we will starve.

    i think worry falls in the same boat as fear. clearly fear has its place, keeping us out of harms way. but it can also get out of hand.

    there is a difference between fears and phobias.

    while worry may detract from today, it also helps ensure there will be a tomorrow (for ourselves anyways)

    all in all i think its best to use the positive side of the coin as motivation...

    dont worry...be happy!
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    Old 07-08-07, 22:13   #13 (permalink)
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    This place is frequented by such amazing people.

    I appreciate all your words individually.

    I think the best post I can do, though is just kinda try to restate the original thought as best I can remember, but to be more specific about what I meant when I said "worry too much." I think that is the point I want to address from the posts above.

    First, the word WORRY. dictionary.com sez:

    –verb (used without object)
    1.
    to torment oneself with or suffer from disturbing thoughts; fret.


    2.
    to move with effort: an old car worrying uphill.

    –verb (used with object)
    3.
    to torment with cares, anxieties, etc.; trouble; plague.


    4.
    to seize, esp. by the throat, with the teeth and shake or mangle, as one animal does another.


    5.
    to harass by repeated biting, snapping, etc.

    –noun
    6.
    a worried condition or feeling; uneasiness or anxiety.


    7.
    a cause of uneasiness or anxiety; trouble.


    8.
    act of worrying.



    The first two are what I'm talking about, but the others seemed too neat not to add. I would be willing to bet that some of you have never seen a Jack Russel terrier (or other dog) "worry" a squirrel free of it’s mortal coil, but worry is a word with very violent origins and connotations.

    But the two verbs are what I'm talking about. I was talking about people worrying. So, the verbs:

    1.
    to torment oneself with or suffer from disturbing thoughts; fret.

    I say people do that too much because life is basically geared to take care of that for you. Life makes ya fret – YOU make ya chill. When you have an option about it, get high and have a good time - for tomorrow, you may die. Somebody WAY smarter than me said that.

    2.
    to move with effort: an old car worrying uphill.

    The process of movement itself is an exercise of will. To move with effort, to be the "old" car moving "uphill," to add WORRY to the exercise, just makes it harder! When your body gets older, it starts to make a lot more sense that just a little attitude goes a long way in moving with less conscious effort.

    –verb (used with object)
    3.
    to torment with cares, anxieties, etc.; trouble; plague

    Heck, that definition has the whole point I'm trying to make right there in it.

    So, again, people worry too much. But there was a because in there with that original statement. The because is the human factor, and I’ll try to express it more clearly. I said:

    “There is no need to worry, because it is going to be all right and worry only delays things. One way or the other, things are going to be all right, as they always have been.”

    Existence creates plenty of opportunities and reasons to worry.

    As we play our parts within existence, WE create little opportunities to escape worry/concern/fear and try to experience bliss/nirvana/Self/stonedness. Existence creates the need and opportunity to worry.

    Life makes lemons, we make lemonade (when not worrying that the lemon crop is going to suck this year).

    I stand by the original statement, with the definitions clarified as above it echoes a tad differently, but I still stand by it:

    “I honestly think that most people worry needlessly. Worry can’t/doesn’t change things. Worry is a nonproductive response (IMHO).”

    The pic of Alfred E. Newman says it so much better than all these silly words of mine, though. Actuallly, though, even Alfred had some words often tacked on that made him just a tad better:

    "Suitable for framing or wrapping fish."
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    Old 07-09-07, 00:31   #14 (permalink)
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    never said we are only watching the movie...we are the movie, or play or novel...
    our choices are very real...and so are our lives.
    but people have interaction with the future and distant past quite frequently.
    deja vu, prophecy, and any thing concerning the prediction of future events leads myself to believe that these people simply skipped ahead further into the story...a story already written.
    besides , agressive needs passive...duality is the common theme in this world,good evil light dark yin yang, dudes and dudettes........
    i know that thinking this way seems passive and i'm cool with that...
    i simply feel that life is happening, why question it...have fun and learn a little before the next round.
    i don't expect anyone else to feel this way...unless it works for them.
    i love everyone and everything and respect ALL.

    "leave everything better than you found it"

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    Life is a game but what are the stakes? And are you playing to win?
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