Colt 45...the new gateway drug? LOL

[Invader Zim]

Malt Liquor Linked To Marijuana Use Among Young Adults

ScienceDaily: Malt Liquor Linked To Marijuana Use Among Young Adults

"These results suggest that regular consumption of malt liquor, beyond that associated with typical alcohol use, may place young adults at increased risk for substance abuse problems,"

hahaha....rofl...

SHIT! now i gotta start drinkin good german beer so i dont become a pot head!!
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kinda reminds me of the old propaganda from the 40's "if you use marijuana, you will become a heroin addict!!"

[Caljet666]

Bwahahaha.

And the dope fiend has semen stains on his trousers from constantly jacking off after not being able to find a rape victim.

Just to stay on the safe side, I'll throw out my malt liquor before I turn to pot and ruin my trousers.

[joecoolatc]

[mycot]

Chocolate does it for me in terms of increased risk for substance abuse problems.

[aumbrellaforainydays]

aspirin, coffee and cigarettes are some people's gateway drugs. then it was nicotine to adderal, and from adderal to ecstasy. then ecstasy to cocaine. then cocaine to meth. after meth i became narcoleptic and had to have all of them combined, minus the ecstacy (at least not on weekdays). AHHH! just kiddin', but imagine, this world is full of people on legal gateway drugs and they dont even know it... but of course colt 45 always makes me want to roll up a joint with my crew on the porch and whistle at the honeys passin', what better gateway drug than ole Colt 45.

[roc]

The doc that spanked my little ass and made me breath when I was born is the one to blame!

[anarchOi]

gateway drugs are for people that i call "sheep"

i smoked pot long before i started downing colt 45's in my heavy drinking phase

[bugs]

"Baby's First Buzz," spinning around and around 'til you're dizzy. That was my first mind-altering experience, and I've been chasing buzzes ever since. Parents, watch out for this aberrant behavior!

I think the desire for altered states is a perfectly normal characteristic. Being alive is the gateway.

[Dipole]

"Gateway drug" is a bullshit term cops use to justify fucking with a pot user.

[bugs]

Even da gummint reports say that the 'gateway effect' is because of other stuff being availble where pot is sold. They just don't publish that part. Agreed, there's no such thing as a gateway drug.

These guys aren't stupid, just evil and self-serving. They're good at creating self-fulfilling prophecies and using them as 'proof.' And at twisting and misrepresenting data to keep the trusting souls in fear.

I always told my kids that DARE was a bunch of lies, and now they're passing it on to their kids. Any shithead that says pot is the same as cocaine should be castrated with a dull clamshell.

[Dipole]

DARE is all fine and dandy for the kids. It should be more truthful though. Eventually the kids grow up and start to realize pot isn't as bad for you crack is, or alcohol for that matter. So if the teacher and the school sight cop was not teaching the truth, what else is not true?

[bugs]

Precisely. That's why we tried to tell our kids the truth. To paraphrase, Truth is the AntiDangerousDrug. Decisions shouldn't be based on propaganda.

[mycot]

Originally Posted by anarchOi

gateway drugs are for people that i call "sheep"

i smoked pot long before i started downing colt 45's in my heavy drinking phase

I like this, skip the gateways (whatever they are).
Just go for the real thing.

[the jesus]

I don't know if I would be so quick to throw aside the "gateway" theory. When I am shit-faced I am much more likely to blow a bunch of money on some blow for instance. I have run many scientific expirements.

I am much more open to the untimely use of drugs when drunk.

[mycot]

Yeah it figures, alchohol being a gateway to screwing up.

[Cowcharmer]

im so sick of this.. "gateway drug" bullshit saying..
Every drug is differen't and people do differen't drugs for differen't effects.
Then in breaks into category's and becomes about how potent you like a certain feeling to be.

[roc]

Originally Posted by Cowcharmer

im so sick of this.. "gateway drug" bullshit saying..
Every drug is differen't and people do differen't drugs for differen't effects.
Then in breaks into category's and becomes about how potent you like a certain feeling to be.

Oh come on man I luv gateway drugs!

utter bs it is...

[mycot]

Yep, pharmacologically speaking the idea that taking one substance say bananas should induce a craving for another compleatly unrelated different substance say broccoli is madness. Utter bullshit madness.

[Theytellmethegootch]

I like alcohol and I love weed.

That doesn't mean I'm gonna jump for a chance to fart around with stuff I know would be bad for my health, both mental and physical.

You just gotta find what you can handle and stick with it. Use the power of instinct.

[mycot]

Some would say just cut to the chase. As Chong would say.

You wanna get high?

Doe's a bear shit in the woods?

[bluefungis182]

i thought the whole gateway drug theory was shot down for a while now

[mycot]

From a pharmacological point of veiw it was never even a theory.

[jimbojones]

Originally Posted by Dipole

"Gateway drug" is a bullshit term cops use to justify fucking with a pot user.

True, True.

However, every peak you climb leaves you looking for another summit. I started out a drinker and at one point in my life was shooting speed-ball and taking deadly ammounts of valium at the same time. I was so fucked I did not know what I was doing. I think the idea is when you start down the ole' rabbit hole it can get pretty deep before you know it.
We just like to label the entrance "Marijuana" or "Booze" it's all the same. People just can't control themselves, or perhaps they have not been given the chance.

[jimbojones]

Originally Posted by the jesus

I don't know if I would be so quick to throw aside the "gateway" theory. When I am shit-faced I am much more likely to blow a bunch of money on some blow for instance. I have run many scientific expirements.

I am much more open to the untimely use of drugs when drunk.

As am I, As am I.

[bluefungis182]

i am to drunk thats because you have lowered inhibitions

[TVCasualty]

The gateway drug is the one you try first, that's all.

I really like the "baby's first buzz" theory of spinning around for a headrush as being most people's "gateway."

Second to that, I'd say nitrous oxide or rubber cement... you know, whatever's accessible. My mother was shocked one Thanksgiving to find that all her whip cream cans had leaked all the gas out before she'd had a chance to serve the pie... (I suggested she return them for an exchange... seconds!)

Originally Posted by the jesus

I don't know if I would be so quick to throw aside the "gateway" theory. When I am shit-faced I am much more likely to blow a bunch of money on some blow for instance. I have run many scientific expirements.

I am much more open to the untimely use of drugs when drunk.

That would be the "revolving door" drug theory, would it not? Or is this a gate we can pass through repeatedly? Wow, if I could start my experimentation phase all over again...hmmm...

[mycot]

Like others have said "Gateway drug" is a bullshit term rather than a scientific theory. That said The Jesus and others may find the following interesting.
Courtesy of Tregar in another thread.

"Coca tea when mixed in wine back a long time ago was done to make Vin Mariani ( coca-ethylene was being formed in the liver discovered in the mid 1990s by researchers) , which potentiated the coca leaf alkaloids making them more orally potent.

When cocaine is consumed in the absence of alcohol, it is broken down into two metabolites, one called benzoylecgonine and one called ecgonine methyl ester. In 1990, separate groups of researchers, one in Barcelona and one in Miami, discovered that the combination of alcohol and cocaine produces a very unusual compound called cocaethylene--the stimulant effects are enhanced and prolonged--but much more toxic. That may explain why Vin Mariani, and the other cocaine-containing wines were so popular back in the late 1870's. The only requirement for the wine was that it contain 10 to 15% alcohol. One ounce of Mariani's tonic contained 6mg of cocaine. Two glasses of wine would have contained less than 50 mg of cocaine, equivalent to one 'line' of snorted cocaine. Even using today's sophisticated measuring techniques, 50mg of oral cocaine is barely enough to cause measurable effects in humans."

Personally I'd like to try this with coca leaves.

[jimbojones]

Ahhh sweat coca! That was my first real drug, even before weed Mexican guys at work were offering me bumps while I was in High School working meat packing in the summer. I bought an ounce my first time and thought I was pretty big shit. But now that I am older I cannot tolerate the speediness of snorted or smoked coke. I want something normal that is just the subtlness of the coca buzz. A nice coca tea might be just the thing with bit of booze in it.