Whats the solution for gas prices?

[Hippie3]

latin root words are very common in euro-languages,
thx to ye olde roman empire

[seamus]

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

Apparently, in the next 5 years construction will begin on 30 new nuclear power reactors here in the U.S.. This comes from a foaf who [Redacted due to reconsideration of explaining the source for this info]. Suffice to say that I was told this by someone who knows firsthand.

I wonder where they plan to put all those spent rods? Deep inside Gaia, no doubt. If only, if only. If only we would learn. But soon (really soon in the solar cycle) we won't have much choice but to shit or get off the pot, when it comes to living in harmony with our planet. I think Ed Dames was right in a sense... the surface is gonna fry.

This society is structured so that it is exceedingly hard to live the "pioneer" life, especially due to all the land "belonging" to someone or some state. Even if YOU "own" the land, the county can come and force you off it with guns if you refuse to pay their "land rent" (euphemized to "property tax").

I am currently researching land patent law, which, in short, insists that no patented piece of land can be used as collateral against a debt. That seems to include "land rent" debt. In other words, patents trump deeds and titles, which has interesting implications for "property tax".

I've been busy with my new job. I'm a printer. I actually enjoy it, to my surprise. I was thinking it was going to be drudgery, but it's not too bad. Just need to get my speed back up.

[seamus]

bullshit deleted

[seamus]

crap deleted

[Hippie3]

(they DO exist, a close friend of mine saw them first hand).

LOL

well i guess THAT proves it eh.
gimme a break
and keep that trash out of these forums
before i toss it and you out in the trash.

[aumbrellaforainydays]

we need a new executive administration that is really elected by the people. we need leaders that will really say what they believe in. none of this self-contradictory, dramatizing bullshit that makes the process of electing a leader akin to a reality TV show. I can see it now, watch "Survivor: Presidential Race United States" Democracy at stake, will Barak or John be voted out? find out tonight on ABC. I got to give it up to the long gone candidates Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, who walked their talk and weren't afraid to do it. oh shit, now i'm getting politcal, didnt mean to do that, but its related if you count how much the current administration has basically sent us backwards, in terms of energy self-sufficiency. all i've heard is more bio-fuels (less food for people), more coal plants (less livable environment for everything), and new nuclear plants (permanent radiation for our grand children). promoting this with wide grins and full pockets, while the nation goes to shit around us.

[seamus]

Mocking my trust in a friend's testimony...

Originally Posted by Hippie3

LOL

well i guess THAT proves it eh.
gimme a break
and keep that trash out of these forums
before i toss it and you out in the trash.

What's the problem? This IS the resist and rebel forum, no? What are we to resist, and what is there to rebel against, but the establishment? And who controls the ebb and flow of gas prices? I don't write this stuff to prove or convince, but to inform. Everyone has their own BS detector, so let them use it! If the very suggestion of unproven ideas bothers you so much that you would threaten to ban me for mentioning them, I'll just clam up. It is, after all, your site.

S

[Hippie3]

you call them
'unproven ideas'-
i call them
malicious lies
with a hidden agenda
and i don't want to be
used
by folks like you
to spread the bullshit far and wide.

go build your own site
and spout crackpot theories all you want,
see how many come to see.
because no one comes here for it.
i'm tired of all your bitterness, anger, deceit.
i'm tired of all the tearing down, the negativity
the nonsense.
the worst thing about the Internet
is that it gives equal opportunity
to both
the intelligent & informed
and
the liars & dullards who swallow their lies.

[roc]

Yep!
Either BS or the better part of you ran down your mothers leg!
Let us know when you start your own site so we can all move over there to talk bullshit.

Hum... I wonder if bullshit is better that cow shit for my next experiment???
Maybe since the bull don't piss in the shit like a cow and up the piss content so much that I'll be on to something better that horse shit. I don't know though I'm still liking the donkey shit and horse shit the best.
Oh well shit goes around eh gang?

[FDK]

I can see it now, watch "Survivor: Presidential Race United States" Democracy at stake, will Barak or John be voted out?

You forget, on Survivor the viewers votes actually count for something.

[Yale]

What does this have to do with Solution to gas prices .>>. Sorry, I've been clicking for a while hoping to see new stuff on what Mycoptopia thinks about gas prices and all I see is arguing .. Needs more love <3 . I wasn't sure if I should post this as I have no authority or any think to add to the gas discussion or the topic which is currently being discussed. But I figure, why not.. I'll be told if it's unwarranted soon enough. I think the word gasoline was used last three days ago.

[Hippie3]

lol

good point.
maybe that's because
about all we can do about it
is talk.

[roc]

Gasoline stop depending on it!

[FDK]

Hempanol, Use it!

Bug the piss out of your Congressmen, your Friends, your Family, your Neighbors, Total strangers you meet while shopping who start up convo's about the rising cost of things till they see the light.

1 Acre of Hemp = 300 Gallons per crop (3 months?, 1200 gallons a year from 1 acre)

Could be grown anywhere, i.e. in our cities using all the old large factories and other "abandoned" buisness structures as massive greenhouses, as part of a rotational crop in our Farmlands, along roadsides (Imagine highways lined with hemp plants, when the D.O.T. mowed the "grass", they could collect it for processing.)

Not to mention the plethora of other byproducts availabe from the plant,,,

Let's see Hydrogen or switchgrass pull that off.

According to a mini-documentary I saw on the Science channel, 1 Gallon would only run about $1.50 U.S.D. once processed.

[aumbrellaforainydays]

earlier, someone mentioned algae, which i think would surpass even hempanol. alganol! what we need is diversity of fuels and energy sources. theres no way just one source of energy can provide the amount that fossil fuels do. conserving and drilling more only helps to add another day to the decline in production and consumption of oil, gas and coal. coal on the other hand could be with us for a while longer. tarsands exist, but both will end up leaving us polluted in the air, land and water. also the energy conversion input to output of refining some of these "marginal" fossil fuel sources actually produce a deficit, until you can sell it when the market really has nothing else to turn to.

seems that hemp would still require water to grow "everywhere" thus restricting it to places that receive adequate rainfall. and then harvesting equipment will suck up lots of this fuel. same with pressing it and distilling it... unless under free trade we could just force those countries south of us to do for us... but wait brazil is already doing it, sugar cane ethanol.

with algae, we could grow it in our water treatment plants, we could grow it on feedlots, in "Living Machine" home systems, in rivers, in deltas, lakes (some watersheds already have massive algae blooms). if we could just utilize the crap that lives off our crap.

[Hippie3]

electricity powers everything,
can do cars too.
all we need for ten thousand years' worth
is nuclear power for all.
start by using up all that plutonium
in nuclear weapons stockpiles
as fuel instead of WMD.
win-win.
nuclear fuel cycle emits no greenhouse gases,
nor any other pollutants-
uses no corn nor other edible crops,
depletes no vital resources.
we already have all the whole world would need
for many centuries to come
sitting refined and ready to use
in missile silos, cruise missiles, subs, etc.
add in the russian and chinese, etc. stockpiles.
beat swords into plows, as they say.
turn missiles into light and heat for our cities.
building 100 new reactors
would be a huge stimulus to the economy
and attract engineers, scientists and other skilled trades
long term, as it takes a decade to go from farmland to reactor.

[Lazlo]

The problem with algae is that it would take a lot of secure space in order to make it worthy of messing with. Nuclear, geothermal or hydroelectric is definitely the way to go when it comes to getting the ball rolling now.

[aumbrellaforainydays]

the problem of nuclear still rests in the spent rods that must be kept sealed in an underground cellar for over 100,000 years!

and I am still not satisfied that nuclear reactors are fail-safe. if a reactor just leaks a bit, or the train transporting the raw material happens to crash, or if a natural disaster (earthquake, hurricane, tornado) just happens to hit square on a reactor, or some refined material just happens to disappear into the wrong hands due to political instabilities, or even in the hazards of mining this shit out of the earth, with its tailings having to dealt with in a similar manner or else we could end up eating, breathing and drinking doses of radioactive goodies!.. well i guess it could be good thing, it could help us evolve and mutate into a race entirely immune to the effects of radiation on ground in space, hell it may give us Superman powers! but until there is proof of this effecting us postively (ie. not giving us cancer) then i say no.

[Hippie3]

the refined plutonium is already here,
at the same risks you pointed to-
not any different
if it's in a missile silo
or in a reactor core-
it's already here.
the genie is out of the bottle.

at least
in a reactor
it's generating useful power
instead of threatening the lives of millions.

[Oblivion]

I would be more concerned about some other country selling the nuclear fuel than the US. We need to worry about ourselves first. We have lots of nuclear plants already. No deaths yet. One close call if you want to call it that. The tech is proven and already exists. We should use it until we find something better. If people expect to have an electric car be as effective as gasoline, then were going to have to start somewhere. Think of the power drain if everyone switched to electric within the next 20 years or so. Where will the power come from?

[Psilly_Engineer]

How to get around high gas prices:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxPOju00YRQ

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by seamus

...
I am currently researching land patent law, which, in short, insists that no patented piece of land can be used as collateral against a debt. That seems to include "land rent" debt. In other words, patents trump deeds and titles, which has interesting implications for "property tax"....

not exactly correct-

The patent does not constitute title
but is mere evidence of right to title

so a land patent is only proof that the land can
be legally titled, as it is claimed by the government
as part of its' territory.

it doe not 'trump' a title as you claim.

you in essence claim that no one can legally
use their home/land as collateral for a loan
but that is exactly what a mortgage is.

your 'understanding' of the law flies in the face
of how it really works,
better hit the books again.
land patent

[catdaddy]

Since this thread was titled "What's the solution for gas prices" I thought I'd start this here, although the subject has been broached elsewhere...

I just finished my first class on supplemental hydrogen as a means of increasing fuel economy. Frankly, I wondered if I would learn anything, as I have been in R&D on this for quite a while.

Here it is in a nutshell, friends- you CAN EASILY build a device to increase your fuel economy- perhaps very significantly- for not a lot of bucks. A kid could do it....how deep you want to get depends on you.

I won't, in this post, get into WHY or HOW, just say that it WORKS, and YOU can do it- NOW.

If you like, and hip is OK with it, I'll start another thread? with details and updates.

Catdaddy

Screwin' around in his shop for a greener future,,,blah, blah, blah.

[Lazlo]

Wow, crude is up nearly $25 a barrel today alone. Get ready for the 140's once again, or maybe 150's with this weakening dollar and lousy interest rates.

[Hippie3]

i have found my personal solution-

[helloinsomnia]

I have not read through this thread yet - so I apologize if this has been mentioned but how about compressed air?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_car

I remember watching a film on a prototype French car that runs off compressed air and actually cleans the air as it drives.

[Lazlo]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

i have found my personal solution-

Same here. Somebody else's gas.

[akoutdoors]

We need.
1. PLUG IN CARS?TRUCKS/SEMIS that go @ least 50miles per overnight(4-8hr) Charge using no more than 4-8 KWH.
2. Cheap Nuclear power using large and small plants to provide the power for Industry growth and said Cars.
3. A culture of Conservation to not be so Damn wastefull and make recycling the norm.

[jmtx]

theres gonna be a car soon called the chevy volt in 2010,
Chevy Volt is designed to move more than 75 percent of America's daily commuters without a single drop of gas.(1) That means for someone who drives less than 40 miles a day, Chevy Volt will use zero gasoline and produce zero emissions.(2)
Unlike traditional electric cars, Chevy Volt has a revolutionary propulsion system that takes you beyond the power of the battery. It will use a lithium-ion battery with a variety of range-extending onboard power sources, including gas and, in some vehicles, E85 ethanol(3) to recharge the battery while you drive beyond the 40-mile battery range. And when it comes to being plugged in, Chevy Volt will be designed to use a common household plug. The Volt will qualify for $7,500 tax credit, and when u use up the battery it has a very small 4 cylinder engine, that can go 300+ miles

you can get options like a solar panel roof

sorry if someone already metioned this!