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    Old 02-04-04, 16:06   #1 (permalink)
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    lifestyles Archive through July 14, 2004

    Here's a few poems I wrote a few years back. I just found them on my old hard drive, and I figured I'd share. They have a little darker undertones, since I was going through high school and adolescence. Let me know what you guys think!


    Feel free to post your own (poems or any form of writing)!


    Familiar

    All too familiar,
    Everyday, the same-old, same-old,
    Faceless figures, hurrying nowhere,
    Never Stopping,
    Trying to find their nameless goal,
    Busily, part of the hive,
    Void of emotion, Void of Feeling,
    One of many, a piece of the picture,
    But for who are we toiling for?
    That is the question that I ask,
    When I wake in the morning,
    As I hurry aimlessly,
    When I rest during the night,
    Why, and Who are we doing this for?
    I have no answer,
    As no one else does either,
    Until we discover it,
    We will all continue with the same-old familiar

    Loneliness

    The of silence,
    Slowly eating away at my soul,
    The deafening silence,
    Is like the pounding of a jackhammer,
    Slowly chipping away at the concrete of my consciousness,
    There are people,
    But only their superficial outwards are present,
    Like a machine yearning for oil,
    They squeak meaninglessly, only to hear their own noises,
    Constantly bickering,
    To make a point that will never be recognized,
    Their perpetual droning fades away, thankfully,
    And I am alone

    Reality

    How would it be to live in a permanent reality?
    Never feeling the wonderful,
    Never grasping your hopes,
    Only attempting the guaranteed,
    Afraid to defy logic and real-life,
    You are a slave of time,
    Constantly sinking deeper into the quicksand of tedious doings,
    Forgetting your life, living for the chore,
    No hope for the past or the future,
    Knowing the latter will be the former,
    What you want the most, you could never have,
    The dreams and the life you desire,
    You know you will never hold as your own


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    Old 02-04-04, 16:56   #2 (permalink)
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    reminds me of some pretty dark poetry I wrote when I was in Highschool. Highschool is a very dark place.


    We sit and stare in silence
    Awaiting our fate
    Caressing the dead ones softly
    knowing it's too late
    Their veins are coated with anesthetics
    Hail the anti-neuro god
    Sick with your diseases
    He's the cure you've been looking for
    Birds wings are caked in blood
    Too Weighed down to fly
    The idiot's been poisoned
    Now to sick to try
    Caked in agony
    sticky fingers of pain
    All open wounds bleeding
    My precious eyes now stained
    The dirty wound spreads disease
    Cut it off or it can spread
    Apply pressure to stop the bleeding
    Lie awake in your coma bed



    I'm sick and I need healing
    Tell me who I am
    Give me the solution
    for the pain you decided I had
    Drug me up and beat me
    I never loved you more
    Sustain my pain, defeat me
    I'll love you, I'm a whore



    A fallen star
    projected into space
    smoldering beauty
    extinguishing flames
    Saddening silence
    Abscence of peace
    Wounds tied tight
    Response negative
    Dieing hope
    Abundant pain
    Nothing to lose
    and Nothing to gain
    A wilted bloom
    A hard worn face
    A seeking soul
    Without a place
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    Old 02-04-04, 18:23   #3 (permalink)
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    i cant do poems well i can more freestyling.. you see im in a band i sing and play trumpet ( ska-punk ) so i just come up with nonesense , Wish i had the ability to write music...
     
    Old 02-04-04, 21:05   #4 (permalink)
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    I wrote this on the back cover of my magazine while commuting on the train.

    when no little heads
    are left
    in the corner of the screen
    it means
    you have zero lives left
    and if
    you die this time
    before you collect more
    your
    game will be over


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    Old 02-05-04, 10:36   #5 (permalink)
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    hickory
    dickory
    dock.
    any andrew dice clay fans here ?
     
    Old 02-05-04, 11:10   #6 (permalink)
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    i thought my hills were too steep
    problems persist and i can't sleep
    everytime i push on
    i tell myself it won't last long
    even when troubles are caked on
    sometimes it's hard to be strong
    so here i sit with my back to the wall
    it ain't always easy to stand tall
    heaven forbid
    even angels fall.
    i stare at the mirror of my reflection
    the stranger looks back again
    shows i'm in need of direction.
    i hear the words you say
    but somehow they get lost along the way.
    stand, fall, stand, crawl.
     
    Old 02-05-04, 14:47   #7 (permalink)
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    a more upbeat haiku

    Did not want to wake
    You asleep so peacefully
    Dishes in silence
     
    Old 02-07-04, 22:48   #8 (permalink)
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    Hehe

    Flaming wings above

    is it Icarus I see

    laughing his wax off




     
    Old 02-08-04, 01:46   #9 (permalink)
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    I can definitely relate to anyone's negative high school experience. Unfortunately it wasn't until I was out for a few years before I realized there were other alternatives to "Constantly sinking deeper into the quicksand of tedious doings" (well put, Red). I've never been one to write much poetry, but I did write this short piece after a well-dosed Ozzy concert last year:

    Such an outpour of energy, emotion, positivity.
    Then, you rise above it all,
    Connect with all who are embracing.
    Eyes are wide open, hands are waving,
    Heads are aggressively nodding yes, YES!
    Non-believers are left in awe,
    envy, and disbelief!
    We are all gods tonight! OZZY!

    "Rising above" refers to my crowd-surfing experiences. Maybe it was just because they were having a great time, too, but all the other crowd-surfers had enormous pupils, and I was sure they had all injested as well! The non-believers are the assholes who get general admission tickets but just want to stand there holding their ground the whole show and not let skids like me get back up to the pit...they just don't get it.

    Good string, Red. Hope to hear more writings from everyone.
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    Old 02-08-04, 04:27   #10 (permalink)
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    i wrote this in 11th grade english, the only calss i ever liked, a good sixteen years ago.
    too much has changed since even then.



    never-ending work is done
    such tasks they do complete
    no choice one way nor other
    machines they are.

    they create to such design
    all that is needed, depended
    and relied upon by their maker
    they are hard wired.

    and without such drones
    society should collapse
    for not much can be done
    without them.

    and so if one machine
    should malfunction as such
    and not perform one's task
    as set by another,

    one thing is certain
    they should be discarded

    replaced by one other

    what a shame that man is the machine
    run by the society he himself created.
     
    Old 02-08-04, 12:14   #11 (permalink)
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    I'm glad to see some good poems. We've even drug out some that may have gathered dust. Keep posting, folks, Ilove reading this stuff!
     
    Old 02-11-04, 13:26   #12 (permalink)
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    I absolutely love writing, whether it is an assigned paper for class or just me rabmbling on about whatever.

    I also pride myself on my writing, and have been told by many folks that my writing ability is very special. I have started three or four books, and usually have no problem cranking out ten or so pages per day when I really work at it. The problem is that after 50-60 pages, I just kind of lose the motivation to continue.

    I don't know whether I just not interested in the topics I'm writing about or what. I've written all sorts of stuff, from Fantasy to Crime Drama, but they all kind of fizzle out. It's kind of frustrating, b/c I believe the writing I initially do is very good. Maybe it's b/c I am still young, and I haven't reached my prime yet, but I still believe that I should be able to complete a novel, even if it isn't tip-top quality.

    Maybe I should just stick to short stories, but it's like my life goal to get a least one novel published, even if it doesn't make me big bucks. I probably sound like a little, whiney brat, but this is really bugging me.

    Could someone attempt to give me some advice?

    Thank you guys a million times over!

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    Old 02-11-04, 13:42   #13 (permalink)
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    Right short stories that all have a coomn them and pick up where the last one left off. When you have a few done you have created a novel of short stories.
    A series of small steps can allways leed you to your final goal..
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    Thanks for the advice. I have no problems writing short stories at all, but eventually I want a cohesive singular novel. Maybe I should write a book of short stories first, just to keep myself from getting rusty instead of just complaining.
     
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    One thing that you could do is to take certain characters....and write a couple of different short story type situations with them that you can later connect with a story in the middle. That would maybe help just breakthrough the problems of having a story get stale....and then after you get one or two things you were happy with it might help you in writing a continuous novel from start to finish.
     
    Old 02-11-04, 20:01   #16 (permalink)
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    Shrooms always give me ideas to write down. In fact if I start writing on shrooms, I can't stop for hours. Ever seen fear and loathing in Las Vegas? Hunter S. Thomson goes out into the world to experience his novels. It's not a bad idea to try to write about your experiences and become the main character of a story. There are also formats for writing that others have come up with, like fiction genres. Trying to write in a new genre can inspire you to write different and more interesting things. Also I believe that reading really good books can inspire you and show you new ways to write.
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    Old 02-11-04, 20:07   #17 (permalink)
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    If you want to read a good fiction but based loosley on the life of the author book read 100 years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. That book is amazing and inspired me to think and live life a little differently. Its a great book.
     
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    Banjojo - I may just try the mushroom thing. I just got a nice leatherbound journal for X-Mas that remains blank, and I also just by chance have some homegrwn Creepers. Maybe I'll give it a go. It's true about reading books helping you in your writing. I worked at a library for 2 1/2 years, so I had my fair share of good books.

    Thanks for the advice!
     
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    Just be careful. Taking mushrooms for artistic inspiration can give you more than you bargained for. But I believe that there is no great art without great pain and struggle.
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    Redstorm -
    It is funny you mention this b/c I am looking for a good screen writer for short stories. I enjoy film making as a side project and feel that I have everything in order except the most important aspect: a great script.
    I don't require novel length stories b/c of my limited time and budget for projects. I really need just a 20 minute short story written in screenplay format. If you have never written a screenplay then you will be surprised at how simple the format is.
    I personally enjoy, crime, drama, suspense, action, and comedy. I invest so much of my time into acting/directing/producing that I find little time or spark to create a good story.
    You should PM or email me if you are interested in collaborating on something. I would like to read your stuff.
     
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    Old 02-11-04, 22:22   #22 (permalink)
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    It's quite rare to find a competent novelist
    under the age of 30.
    Writers are like cheese, wine, blah blah -
    mature w/ age.... stick to the short stuff.
    Screenplays run at 20 pages, so that's a good length.

    good luck!

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    Yeah, I know it's kind of impatient, but I know I can do stuff w/ my talent. The more literature I absorb, the better my style and choice of words becomes. I don't mean to sound cocky, it's just that I have high expectations for myself.

    I'm going home from school on the weekend of the twentieth, and I have a crime-drama (probably my favorite writing so far) that would be perfect for a screenplay.

     
    Old 02-12-04, 03:40   #24 (permalink)
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    Don't set out with the intention to fill a novel length story. Get an rough idea for a story and try writing it to see how far it goes. If it ends up just being a short story then that's all it should be, don't try to force it to be more. Keep this up and you will eventually come up with something that keeps going and will turn into a novel if you can stick to it. Try not to have to specific an outline/plot when you start. That way you can just write and see what happens. By not setting limits on the story you'll be able to get more out of it.

    Also, don't be discouraged by stories that only end up being short stories. Try getting them published in anything. You're sure to get lots of rejection slips but don't be discouraged, it's normal. If you aren't getting lots of rejection slips, you probably aren't trying hard enough. But if you are persistant and don't quit, you could get something published. If you do, it's sure to give you that boost of confidence that will help you write that novel.

    Also, don't forget about your short stories. Keep them in mind. You might think of things to expand on and your short story might end up being just piece of your novel. As I said, don't try to force a short story to be more than it is. But if more comes out naturally go with it, see what happens.

    Good luck. If you have anything you could post I'm sure you'll get lots of critiques here. It's nice to have folks like us review them because, as I'm sure you've found out, it's hard to get any real advise or criticism out of your friends or family. All they will usually say is, "Wow, great!" or "Perfect!"
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    Also, while were on this topic, if you literature buffs want to read something kind of interesting, check out the introduction to the Bachman books entitled "Why I was Bachman." The Bachman books are, of course, the five novels written by Stephen King under the name Richard Bachman. The books in the collection are Rage, The Long Walk, Roadwork and The Running Man (which is shockingly unlike the movie). Thinner was also written under the name Bachman but it's not in the collection. Misery was going to be by Bachman but the world found out Bachman was really King before it was published.
    The gist of the introduction is that Stephen King had become really popular, so much so that everything he wrote was automatically a #1 bestseller. He wanted to find out if he had real talent or if he just got lucky. So what he did is publish some of his books under a fake name. At the time nobody but he and his publisher knew the truth. He wanted to see if he could start from the bottom and reach the top again. Bachman started to get popular on his own but somebody figured it out before he really hit big so we'll never really know how far he would have made. I guess they started to suspect it was really King and went snooping amd found his name on a copyright form at the library of Congress. One pretty cool thing is that in all the Bachman stories he mentions famous writers who published stuff under fake names, kind of to drop hints.

    This Bachman fiassco was the inspiration for his book (written under the name King) The Dark Half. Which, like almost every Stephen King book, starts out with a really great idea for a story but just can't end as intriguing as it starts.
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    Dostoyevski wrote by installments, basically magazine serials. He just kept writing 2,000 words at a time. Wodehouse and Vonnegut did the same thing - 500 words a day - but not for serials. And work from an outline.
     
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    Jim Brown: The Bachman books are excellent! I'm reading Roadwork right now. If you get a chance you shoud read "Desperation" and "Regulators". Once was written under Bachman, and the other under King. They kind of parallel each other, since they each have the same characters (rather, names).
     
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    Redstorm,

    A good short story is actualy harder to write than a good novel. I would try to master the short story first, then move on to the novel.
     
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    Thank you guys for all the advice! I am going to start writing a screenplay very soon, and will let you see the outcome.

     
    Old 02-12-04, 18:57   #30 (permalink)
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    Red, how do you like Roadwork? It's actually the only one I haven't read. I really liked The Running Man. The long walk was pretty cool too. I didn't care too much for Rage, though. Both of them were great ideas (plot-wise, not actually doing what they do). It seems to me that the King books that don't usually fall apart near the end (and also that make the best movies) are the non-horror ones like Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption, The Body (Stand By Me), The Green Mile and some others I can't think of now.

    Which of those two you listed was written under Bachman? I thought he only did those five I mentioned earlier under the name Bachman.

    Hey while were on the subject of Stephen King, there's two things I'd like to mention. First is, has anyone read The Eyes of the Dragon? It's a really good book, one of the most under-rated of King's works. Also, did you notice in the movie Stand by Me, when the Corey says to the dork who forgot the food; "Oh great! What am I supposed to do, eat my foot!?" Did any of you King fans catch the reference there to one of his greatest short stories? If you did it's pretty funny. Actually funny might not be the right word.

    Also, I just saw Dreamcatcher recently. The book's pretty good but certainly not one of his best. The movie, however, I think is the closet adaption to the book of any of his books that have been turned into a movie (which is almost everyone of them).

    One last thing; do you think Stephen King is the best-selling author of all time and/or the highest grossing? If he's not, who would be?
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    Oh yeah, can anybody here identify the reference that the Corey made in Stand by Me that I mentioned above?
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    i would definatly work from an ouline composed of several short stories based on the back ground of your main characters , then go from there with an idea and you have got the groundwork for your novel. or possibly a novella. stay focused. i may make an enemy here but here goes, king is not that good of a "storyteller" in the sense of twain or hemmingway. not to say he is not one of the most talented authors in literature is a farce also but take an author like stuart woods who in my opinion is one of the most wonderful storytellers out there today, this guy can suck you in to the story and its hard to let go. but he writes crime drama that is a little smutty not quite the king level of intrcacy. checkout woods you'll see what i mean about the way he knows his craft. try the run or swimming to catalina.
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    Jim - I believe it was "Regulators" that was written by him. It was kind of a gimmick, as the cat was already out of the bag about the pseudonym. The two books are very good, especially how they somewhat mirror each other. They are one of the few King books that have a lesson entrenched in them. "Desperation" deals w/ religion, and "Regulators" deal with violence in television. I would definitely recommend you check them out of your local library, or even purchase them. I own both of them!
     
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    Cool, thanks Red. I have a huge used bookstore by my house that will probably have it.

    The in-joke from Stand by Me was in reference to King's short story "Survivor Type" from Skeleton Crew. There's a gruesome tale if ever there was one. I highly recommend you check it out if you haven't read it yet. Actually almost all the stories in Night Shift and Skeleton Crew are worth reading. I recently read Everything's Eventual which is Stephen King's latest collection of short stories. It wasn't bad but it wan't too great either. In fact, I can't remember hardly any of the stories of the top of my head.

    Hey Red, we seem to have at least some aspects of similar taste. One of my few talents is giving honest and useful criticisms to peoples creative work. I'm happy to help if you want to post anything.
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    Thats cool Jim. I own almost every Stepehen King book (the ones in paperback), but I've only read about half of them. I bought his book "On Writing", which is actually pretty interesting. It is like half-and-half an autobiography and a how-to book. It was really quite interesting reading about how he became a bestseller, and his take on his horrible accident.

    Roadwork is pretty good, but it's starting pretty slow. Hopefully it gets moving. Definitely give those two books a try, they'r well worth reading.
     
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    Last time I wrote something, I storyboarded it, the whole idea. Then I wrote the story to fill t in, and it came out the length it was. I did not start with a blank page and start writing, when I do that I get about a page and a half.

    As for Stephen King, I liked The Stand.
     
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    Red, I wouldn't get your hopes up too high about Roadwork. In the introduction to the Bachman books, King says that he felt it was the worst of the Bachman books because it tried to show that there is some good in the world. All the other Bachman books portrayed a world of the future that was dark and evil. They're still good books though.
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    Yeah, I read abotu 150 pages of it yesterday, and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Well, for my B-Day (today) I got Insomnia and another Stephen King book. Can't think of what the other one is though. Darn memory....
     
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    Hey, man, I'm a 3rd year writing/philosophy student, and I will tell you, if you're not writing books, don't sweat it. Write more short stories, poems, whatever, but don't get down on yourself because you can't pull off a novel. Go walk around a book store and see how many really grea