albino pr's

[shroomer51203]

let me start by saying i am new here but am not new to growing. at the moment i have 7 strains going but only 2 of them are fruting right now. pr, and burma are fruting and oI is ready to fruit and ks, cambodia,tc,and cr are all collanating, i use 10 gal mono bins to fruit and spawn brf/wormpoo/coffiewatter to cowpoo/straw/gypsum/yiest/verm/vegoil. i know thats a bit much but thats how i like it and the mycelim seems to also like it.Any way i have some pr's that had 3 flushes inside and then moved them to a outside patch and had a giant albino pr come out of the center of the cake i have a pic and will be uploading soon!!! just want to know if anybody has ever heard of a albino pr? thanks

[MLBjammer]

I have never heard of one. Are you sure it is cubensis, not some other species that likes your patch? I have seen that.

I look forward to the pic.

Welcome to Mycotopia, by the way.

Peace--Jammer.

[shroomer51203]

yes i'm for sure its a cube, it ended up being 6 grams dry and gave a hell of a trip! also when i split it open there was alot of bluing every were. as soon as i get to a computer i will upload the pic, i am curently using my phone to post.

[the_chosen_one]

welcome to topia!

i would love to see pics. did it have colored gills? any purple spores? it's not uncommon to get more luecistic fruits from outdoor grows.

man, a true albino PR would be awesome breeding material!

[shroomer51203]

no i belive the gills were white too, i did not take a print thoe, i realy wanted to make a clone but did not have the time and now i regret not!!! any way thanks

[MLBjammer]

At least you got a picture, anxious to see that. Wow!

[shroomer51203]

I finally uploaded my pictures, if you get a chance look at my gallery, i have some kickass pictures up there of some of my grows.

[mikeylikesit]

i never knew their were albino PR

[MLBjammer]

That is a bizarre looking fruit, Shroomer. Thank you for sharing.

I will certainly check out your gallery.

I am always saying in this hobby that hindsight is 20/20--as far as getting tissue samples or prints.

[shroomer51203]

I actually did take a tissue sample but it's been in my fridge for about 2 months i don't know if it is still good, i haven't checked yet.

[BuckarooBanzai]

That isn't a great picture, but that doesn't look like a cubie to me.

[weeeeeee]

Originally Posted by BuckarooBanzai

That isn't a great picture, but that doesn't look like a cubie to me.

thats what i was just about to say

crazy substrate and spawn mixes new to me fur show

[MLBjammer]

If it's dry, you could still use it. It just takes a little longer to get started.

[Lazlo]

That looks like Agaricus to me.

[warriorsoul]

Thats wild! Good luck with the clone.

[notallthere]

hate to sound like a broken record but i dont think thats a cube...i looks like shrooms i have seen in the woods and in yards that for a time i thought might be an aminta but turned out not to be

[shroomer51203]

well eitherway i know it was good my buddy ate it (made tea) and tripped hard, there was also alot of blueing when cut, does agaricus bruise blue? is it active???

[warriorsoul]

No, it doesn't.

[Lazlo]

"there was also alot of blueing when cut, does agaricus bruise blue?"

No harm intended, but i'd have to see a photo to believe that. That is not Psilocybe cubensis. I'm nearly 100% sure it's Agaricus.

[shroomer51203]

no harm intended, but when i cut it to take a sample it turned all blue were cut which to me is pscilocybin, also i realy dont care who does not belive me because i put pic up there to share and let people see something unusal, not to ask what the strain was. also in my expierience when u trip balls from a shroom it usually is active!!!!!!!

[BuckarooBanzai]

Originally Posted by shroomer51203

it ended up being 6 grams dry and gave a hell of a trip! also when i split it open there was alot of bluing every were.

This mushroom, the one sitting next to the mini Bic, was 6 grams dry?

[spacecake]

Do you have a picture where we can see this albino growing among the other shrooms ?

[Lazlo]

"I actually did take a tissue sample but it's been in my fridge for about 2 months i don't know if it is still good, i haven't checked yet. "

Well check it and take a picture. The bluing would definitely be on the sample still.

[shroomer51203]

first that is not a (MINI BIC) and yes it did weigh 6 dry, i have had smaller shrooms weigh 7g, secondly I do not have a pick of this growing because i placed the whole cake out side because i already had a few flushes from that cake, and i didn't expect any thing much from it and just went and checked on it while taking a walk. and thirdly if u want me to upload a pic of the sample i took i can but unfortuntly when checked on it is rotted. Now i realy wish i would of documented this better but was totaly unexpected, and more and likley this will never happen again. I know this does not look like a cube at all but there is no doubt in my mind and from experince with this growing strait out of my cake, extreme bluing when cut into,and higly active this would be the strain on which it was grown from (PR) despite the look of this shroom. sorry for lack of documentation, And thanks for looking.

[BuckarooBanzai]

Man, I'm tired of this and I'm calling total bullshit.

Even if you picture a full sized Bic, for that shroom to weigh 6gm dried, it means it weighed 60gm-65gm when wet/fresh.

The mushroom you picture did not weigh 60gm wet. No way, no how, no chance. You would need a piece of wood or metal that size to weigh 60 grams (even if that is a full sized Bic - which I don't believe).

Pictured below is a 65gm (wet) Psilocybe cubensis mushroom.



You will note, I'm sure, that this mushroom is just a tad bigger than a Bic lighter (even a full sized Bic).

Are you talking about cakes or spawned bulk substrates?

You seem to be vacilating on that. Your first post describes spawning bulk substrate (you even include a bulk recipe with numerous irrelevant ingredients). But now you are talking about cakes.

Are you growing bulk substrate cakes or just making this up as you go along?

You need to either back off and apologize or start from a new nym, man.

Yer bullshit skirt is showing and you are going to keep being called on it at this point.

[warriorsoul]

Wow, what reason would he have to lie?

If that mushroom is solid and not hollow it could have very well weighed what he says it did.

[BuckarooBanzai]

You really believe a cubensis pin the size of a Bic lighter weighed 6gm when dried? The mushroom I pictured above was way bigger than my hand - and it weighed just over six grams dried.

[weiliicoyote]

Yeah....im calling bullshit on this too. The mushroom pictured is not a cube and is definitely not 6g dry

[whatchamacallit]

I don't want to go against the grain, but SWIM has thrown casings, cakes, and tubs outside, and the mushrooms that sometimes would pop out would have almost bleached white caps with cracks and be very, very dense. They often didn't resemble any indoor cube, or even outdoor cubes that one would normally see, however they were cubensis. I am not 100% sure that this is the case with shroomer, but I wouldn't jump on his case about it, as I have seen weirder things.

Perhaps if we don't believe him, we could just leave it at that, without trying to degrade the guy. Perhaps he is mistaken, or perhaps he just had a weird mutation from the change in growing environments. It's really hard to prove it either way, and I find it hard to believe he is trying to pull one over on us, as I don't see what he would have to gain from it. Seems he posted it as a weird fluke that occurred, doesn't seem exceptionally worthy of praise, so I can't find any reasoning behind him lying.

Anyways, don't wanna stir up any trouble, it's just my 2 cents on the matter.

BTW, SWIM had a dried PE mushroom not much bigger than a bic that weighed 5 grams dried.

[BuckarooBanzai]

I just weighed 5 new (full sized) Bic lighters.

They weigh 22 grams a piece.

So the shroom pictured weighed well more than twice as much as the high density plastic and metal Bic it is pictured with.

I don't believe it.

I didn't weigh that shroom, so I could be wrong...but I don't believe it.

From a taxonomical perspective, nothing about that picture says cubensis mushroom to me. The cap is wrong. It's attachment to the stem is wrong. The coloration is wrong.

The dark base certainly doesn't say cake grown mushroom, regardless.

I stand by my call of bullshit.

[TVCasualty]

Every specimen I've ever harvested from cakes or trays I've thrown outside had a distinctly bluish tinge around the stem where it was held to remove it from the substrate. And the base of every mushroom I've harvested turns a very dark blue to nearly black very quickly.

I've seen a bunch of fungi popping up lately that from a distance look a good bit like cubensis, and some look identical to the pic posted above. Some are even fruiting from where I dumped my old grows from last year, so it may be a secondary decomposer (some fungi colonize old fungi).

shroomer51203: If you or someone else really did harvest and eat a mushroom that showed no overt characteristics of being psilocybian, you took your life in your hands or at least risked a long night of horrible stomach distress. And you also shouldn't be surprised to be asked for some photographic evidence of an extraordinary claim. It's nothing personal, but nobody really trusts pseudonymous claims posted in online forums without a bit more evidence than you provided.

Remember this bit of sage advice: "There are old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters."

[shroomer51203]

u know bukooroo or whatever ur name is its real easy for u to throw false claims at my post when ur were not here to see personaly, and are sitting on ur computer with nothing beter to do but it is what it is. And no it is not a fucking cake it is spawned to cow shit, i just have a habit of calling my trays cakes!!!!!! but i guess im not perfect! also i guarantee ur big shroom in ur pic has a hollow stem, and mine happend to be pure mass, so ofcoure u would need a much bigger shroom with a hollow stem! also u are half right i have had shrooms way bigger that did not come close to 6 dry or 60 or so wet, but no matter what this is not bullshit it was 6 dry and it was surely a cube!!!!!!

also bukroo, it is pretty screwed up ur going to give me a infraction when u dont have any evidence to back up ur theory of this being bull shit, now u think its bullshit but that is a whole other thing not evidence!!!!!!

[Embrace]

Guilty until (prooven) innocent.I guess.

What a hell of a way to be welcomed huh,Shroomer.

[mycochef]

children, children, children, why can't we all just get along.

[hyphaenation]

u know bukooroo or whatever ur name is

Buckaroo Banzai is a longtime member in very high standing.

[spacecake]

Originally Posted by shroomer51203

u know bukooroo or whatever ur name is its real easy for u to throw false claims at my post when ur were not here to see personaly, and are sitting on ur computer with nothing beter to do but it is what it is. And no it is not a fucking cake it is spawned to cow shit, i just have a habit of calling my trays cakes!!!!!! but i guess im not perfect! also i guarantee ur big shroom in ur pic has a hollow stem, and mine happend to be pure mass, so ofcoure u would need a much bigger shroom with a hollow stem! also u are half right i have had shrooms way bigger that did not come close to 6 dry or 60 or so wet, but no matter what this is not bullshit it was 6 dry and it was surely a cube!!!!!!

Why are you so sure...?
How many years of experiance do you have ?
Pure mass..the evidence that it was not a Cubie.
We just don't want any false information spreading around.

Chill out.

[TVCasualty]

Originally Posted by shroomer51203

u know bukooroo or whatever ur name is its real easy for u to throw false claims at my post when ur were not here to see personaly, and are sitting on ur computer with nothing beter to do but it is what it is.

Uhh, you just made his point for him. He wasn't there, you made quite a claim, and then you backed it up with a picture that looked like the mushroom equivalent of photos of the Loch Ness Monster. You know, those evocative shapes just out of focus enough to be suggestively ambiguous but clear enough to get on "In Search Of" with Leonard Nimoy.

And no it is not a fucking cake it is spawned to cow shit, i just have a habit of calling my trays cakes!!!!!!

Well, duh. I mean, in such a technically-oriented activity as growing mushrooms Mr. Banzai should've been able to figure out that you call outdoor bulk subs "cakes." It's kind of like how I tell people to give their trays a good blast from the hose if the casing looks too dry; I assume everyone understands that by "blast from the hose" I mean a gentle mist.

but no matter what this is not bullshit it was 6 dry and it was surely a cube!!!!!!

That's not the point. The point is that it cannot be determined to be psilocybian from that picture, and that picture is all we have to go on. Myself and others are not so willing to believe you just because you use lots of exclamation points, especially when part of our job as moderators is to prevent bad info from being spread. In this context, bad info can make someone miserably sick or even dead, so "close enough" doesn't cut it here, and in fact is dangerous. Besides, if you're so quick to engage in pouty outbursts of turd-slinging against long-time members who've earned every bit of their considerable reputations then my guess is you're also willing to open your mouth in other contexts (like taxonomy, perhaps) before you know what you're talking about.

[BuckarooBanzai]

Actually, the large mushroom I posted had a completely solid stem. I know this for a fact because after it dried, I broke it into 4 pieces and stored them in glass vials. I brought that tissue back on agar three years later to verify to myself that old/dry mushrooms could be re-animated and fruited successfully. So nope, no hollow stem.

The decision to give you an infraction didn't come from me, I just happen to be the one who pressed the button.

There are two things that can happen at this point. You can calm down and back off or I can press the button that bans you entirely.

Your choice.

And this thread is closed.