Warning: 2C-B-FLY death, tainted batch from RC vendor.

[EmmisonJ]

I know we don't talk about RC's here on Topia but this is one for harm reduction and certainly not promoting the use of RC's. If anything, it is showing just how dangerous dealing with RC's can be. Not only the fact that RC's are unclassified, often times unresearched compounds. But on top of that they often come from Chinese labs, so who knows what type of impurities are in there. They have melamine-contaminated milk for God's sake, just think of what they may put as filler in their RC's or how sloppy manufacture may be. Having said that, I know some of our members do engage in use of RC's and feel it is very important that we are all informed of this. This is also the reason why the vendor's name will be included in the information below as to provide as much info as possible for the sake of safety.

A brief overview is that a RC vendor (Haupt-RC, in Denmark I believe) has been selling a batch of some unknown lethal compound being marketed as 2C-B-FLY. On October 3rd the owner of Haupt-RC consumed 18mg of 2C-B-FLY from this batch and was pronounced dead 12 hours after ingestion. Unfortunately nobody knows just how much of this stuff has been sold prior to this because they started offering it in September. There are already more deaths being reported and this number may continue to climb higher as Haupt (or the actual manufacturer of this batch) may have sold this batch to other resellers, it is best to stay away from 2C-B-FLY altogether because nobody knows how many orders the owner filled prior to his death. Let's hope it isn't being resold on the street level, who knows what this stuff really is or really contains. It seems reasonable that what they synth'ed was not 2C-B-FLY but I have not yet read any conclusive lab results yet.

2C-B-Fly Warning
Tainted or mislabeled 2C-B-Fly may have contributed to two deaths in early October 2009. Additional hospitalizations have been reported but not yet confirmed. Because of the immediate nature of this issue, please be sure to pass this information to anyone who may come into contact with 2C-B-Fly.

One death occurred in Denmark the other in California. Both deaths followed use of purported 2C-B-Fly acquired from Haupt-RC. The death in Denmark was related to a batch labeled "b1" on the packaging but we do not yet know whether the same batch was involved in California.

Based on details about these deaths, especially dosage and duration, Erowid speculates that this material may be bromo-dragonfly which is more potent and has a longer duration. More information coming soon...

Death in California
On October 3, 2009, Brian Sullivan died in California after ingesting 9 mg of purported 2C-B-Fly. His brother John and John's girlfriend Lindsey were also present and also ingested the same material, John 10 mg and Linsey 4 mg. Brian was 18 years old and weighed 175 lbs. He was not on any medication that his family was aware of although he did have preexisting health problems. According to his brother,

"He had multiple major health problems, including a serious stomach ailment, heart murmur, chronic vomiting and really bad headaches/migraines (probably stress related), many ulcers, a connective tissue disease that can affect internal organs (he also had stopped taking his medication for this), and probable severe liver and possible kidney damage from a suicide attempt with Tylenol and Alieve, and he also may have had additional damage for those and or other organs from using what now appears to have been large amounts of recreational drugs and from whatever taints and cuts were present in them."

Brian begain having a difficult trip at two hours after ingestion. At three and a half hours after ingestion he began having what appeared to be seizures but could have been strokes or a heart attack, or a combination of of those. 911 was called and CPR was performed. He died approximately four hours after ingestion.

John, who had taken 10 mg, experienced "intense gastrointestinal disturbances" and was still experiencing effects at 30 hours after ingestion. He and Lindsey both reported extremely strong experiences and were both taken to the hospital in restraints after the paramedics/police arrived.

The material was ordered from Haupt-RC on October 1st and was received on October 3rd. It has not yet been determined what batch number was identified on the material.

This information has been provided to Erowid by another brother who was present during the event.

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Research Chemicals
People who choose to use 2C-B-Fly, or any research chemical, should be extremely careful and should have a sober sitter present. Please read the Research Chemical FAQ and be aware of the risks you are taking.

Have You Experienced Side-effects?
If you have experienced any side effects, health complications, or lasting effects from 2C-B-Fly use, please submit them to our Experience Vaults (while it is not required, including your email address permits Erowid to contact you privately with follow-up questions). If you have personal, verifiable knowledge of a related death or hospitalization, please consider emailing sage at erowid.org with details.

Links #

• If you have ordered 2C-B-Fly - Drugs-Forum, Oct 2009
• 2C-B-FLY Death? - Bluelight, Oct 2009
• Tainted 2C-B-FLY: a fatal trip in San Jose, Cali - Drugs-Forum, Oct 2009

<!-- end links --> Revision History #

• v1.0 - Oct 10, 2009 - Erowid - Brief placeholder warning, pending additional details.
• v1.1 - Oct 10, 2009 - Erowid - Added a few details about California death (dose, location).

^ taken from: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2cb_fly/2cb_fly_death1.shtml

i also recommend you read the links given above if you want to know more about this.

[Thre365ive]

I'd really like to know more about this as well. I've taken a couple RCs, and things like this scare the shit out of me. I'm just wondering if it isn't perhaps just a mislabeling. A lot of people have died from 5-MeO-AMT because they take AMT doses, which are way too high. This seems like something similar.

[apokalypse]

OK, now you guys are discussing RC's... abide by the rules!