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[scoobie_doobie]

holy poop!! i got two new ones last night!!!!!! i watered before i went to bed and the sprinkler system went on this morning, i got a nice decent one and a small one...

my italian greyhound broke her tail last night too so this was a nice surprise....

(Message edited by scoobie_doobie on July 16, 2004)

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can I clean off the old casing, dunk in the fridge for 24, and re-case?<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
yes.
see http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/141848. html?1076651779

if the casing is tighly held together
you can flip it up on it's side
and use a sharp knife to cut off the old casing layer.

cool,
does sound as if it was dry
and the 'rain' was just what it needed.

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have you tried dunking them yet ?<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Yeah, they've been dunked, bleach-dunked, redunked.
Moot point, now. Yesterday I scrapped the project as the mold problem became rampant. At the time of the first post I thought I still might be able to save them. I just have to re-double my cleanliness efforts.
Well, I've got 12 more jars in the incubator that are going OK w/ no sign of contams and the paltry amt. I got from the last cakes should last me until the new come in.
Think I might give the chronic tek a try.
Thanks all.

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I just have to re-double my cleanliness efforts. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
many more air exchanges are the key to beating green mold

thanks for that hip

I want a PC, but I've never had contam problems with steam: I can do jars, liquid culture, syringes, etc.

However, I have tried popcorn six times to date with almost no success. I got one quart to work on my second try. It sucks :-(

(Message edited by superunborn on July 16, 2004)

If you're buying from Paul's website anyway, I would suggest you just buy his pre-mixed agar. He has MEA in both normal and antibiotic mixes. All you do is add water and pc. I use the non antibiotic for germinating spores, then transfer to antibiotic before growing out to inoculate grain. Since you're starting from spores, there is no chance of developing an antibiotic resistant strain of bacteria. You can also buy a box of 500 petri dishes for under a hundred bucks. I only use the plastic disposables. I bought the glass ones first, but have since tossed them all out. Too much of a pain in the ass to clean and re-sterilize. The disposable ones cost under 20 cents each. I don't think you can clean and re-sterilize a glass one for 20 cents.

it's just my personal way of dealing with
living in an insane world.
what, me worry ?

[scoobie_doobie]

there is a third tiny one... its growing right out the bottom of the fence which has a space inbetween!! i m wondering if any are growin between the fence boards..

Thataway, hudson, I knew you could do it!

I like the shape of those cakes, or do you call them 'bars'?

www.sporelab.com

[mychael]

Thanks, Hippie.

You 'da man, as usual.

I just scored some straw and fresh horse dookie. I'm gonna try it outside. If it works, I'll throw the pics atcha.

[sushumna]

I'll be innoculating for the first time soon with a 20cc syringe and only have 12 wide mouth 1/2 pints, should I pick up another 1/2 dozen and stretch it to 18?

Hey guys, was wondering if ya could help me out with this? I have 2 casisngs going on right now. one of 12 qts, and one 6 qts. They have been colonizing for 4 days now, and i was wondering when i should go ahead and case them? I want to case badly because I never misted the casings after past. them, so they are a little dry. Anyway here is my first casing. It is the 6 qts one so here it is . .
And here is my 12 qt in the rubbermaid.

Now, what do you think i should case them with? and when do you think i shoiuld case them?

i'm just a bit confused,
you called them casings
but haven't cased yet
so what am i looking at exactly ?
what's already in there ?

i wouldn't.
20 cc should do a dozen quite nicely,
you could try to stretch it to 18
but you could wind up with a few
empty sectors.

First off I would like to say that I am new to growing shroomies. As of now I have 14 innoculated jars-7 Hawaiians, 7 Mazatapecs- that are germinating.

I have read very good things about the Voodoo, Chronic, Invitro, and Double-Casing teks but am not sure if these are all suitable for newbies. So if you could, help a brother out.

[sushumna]

So you think use a little more than .25cc per hole (4 per jar), or does that consider a little waste between needle flaming?

much is up to you,
as those all work in their own way.
invitro is by far the easiest and most reliable,
stealthy too.
chronic's useful for getting prints,
voodoo and double-end casing are
for cakes birthed into terrariums for fruiting.
do you have a terrarium set up ?

i don't consider it to be a waste if it saves me having to re-inoculate empty sectors later.
i often use 20-30 cc's for a dozen jars just to ensure a good fast strong start.

Good flush !!!
You're one lucky guy !

[sushumna]

Thanks, I agree. By the way this site is an enormous help.

I do not yet have a terrarium set up but I have room to experiment. So I was thinking of doing several teks to get a better understanding of the whole process.

[greenthumb]

i was wondering if you used a dry verm layer with those tupper/gladware containers. think i am going to walmart later try that out.

[greenthumb]

i am new too, and that was exactly the way i aproached it my first time out. i did everyting from casings, double end cased, to outdoor beds. try the Honey/karo tek(i did the microwave tek) and get some liquid and cloned culture.will save you a bundle. i think i screwed everything i tried up(but had a blast), but i have so much liquid culture i wouldnt have to order spores again for awhile.

in my opinion
it's better to master one tek before moving on to another.
trying to master several at once increases chance of failure and expenses.
that said, i'd leave several invitro for a guaranteed harvest then
build a terrarium for the rest,
and double-end case those after birth.

i think they are castings, am i correct? just missed the 'a' in the title... looks like castings anyway. but im pretty sure you want the entire substrate to colonize before you case it. it's also best to keep light out of your bins until you initiate pinning... or your could end up with premature pinning and make for an uneven pinset.

fahtster

Well, they are castings. Worm castings to be precise. I did what you told me to do Faht, with the worm+verm+coir mix, then putting in pot and so forth. Looks like it is working good to me.
Anyway, I asked if i should case because i remember Hippie saying that the castings won't FULLY colonize like PF cakes, only that they would show signs of myc stringing through the mix. I thought they were just growing ahead of schedual. I am doing Tapalapas, which seem to colonize and grow pretty damn fast if you ask me.

they do look pretty good
but hey a few more days can't hurt.

see http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/150272. html?1089997197#POST231271

Damn hippie, that was the fastest post/reply i have ever seen. You board junky you!!
So, do you think they are doing pretty well? Just give them 2 more days, then go ahead and case with say . .
1)60/40 coir/verm mix
2)50/50 coir/verm
3)100% verm
I only got Coir and verm, soo that's all i got to work with
OOOOO also one LAST thing, kinda off topic but, I took the leftover water from a worm poo dunk at 159-160F for 2 hours and put it all into a pitcher. Can i use this for watering some plants i have? I don't want to give them bad water

[alpiner]

heres a deal on a great pressure cooker thought it says its a from Wisconson foundry I bought one and its a All American 921 free shipping too
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000 04S88Z/qid=1090004285/sr=8-7/ref=pd_ka_7/102-62900 75-8258523?v=glance&amp;s=home-garden&amp;n=507846

Looking today, I see two of the stamps did get up. Thanks Mr. Hippie......slp/fmrc

Well, when my last post went up, bam, then I saw the other two stamps??? Now they are there. Nice huh?
Thanks Mr. Hippie, you da man.............slp/fmrc

Yeah you can water plants with it.

Ummm I'd go with 60/40 verm/coir. More verm that coir...but just a little coir to help with colonizing the casing layer.

Lookin good so far. I actually fruit my castings without a casing layer first flush....but thats just me. Good luck.

"Are all Reishi cultivatable, edible, medicinal?"
Yes, too tough to eat - make a tea, Yes....slp/fmrc

awww shit. look what appeared on one of them.
contam? piss? yesterday i noticed a little spot,
about 3mm in diameter, of this yellowish tissue.
i figured it was just a discolored spot, like what
is seen in jars sometimes. now it has spread in
somewhat of a line.





closeup:



ideas? =/

Greenthumb, unfortunately I do not have any spore solution left. So, from my understanding, I would have to make a spore solution before performing this tek. (please inform me if I am incorrect on this.)

Hippie, I believe that I will follow your advise and leave some invitro and double-end case the rest.

same here.

i've read that Vit. C will bring you down from a mushroom trip.. but I don't remember if someone here disproved that or not.. i remember seeing a post about it but not the outcome... read it in some 'handbook' my friend brought back from the cannibis cup from one of the smart shops in Amsterdam.. but not sure if thats correct info or not.

fahtster

[greenthumb]

i have to agree with hipp here i failed at everything i did try,except the outdoor beds they are still colonizing. will see how those work in next few weeks. i didnt do an invitro tek and have been kicking myself for it, as i didnt harvest enough to do much with. as for a liquid culture i took several. one from a nice cake, i took a cutting off a colized cake mixed with honey solution then added 1cc of peroxide. i did another culture from the first mushroom that i grew(glovebox taking a core stem sample. i did 3 more cultures but these where the two that performed best. also the cultures seem to grow faster in honey than karo. from these two cultures i have made several more, mainly because i have to much time on my hands.
hope this helps
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I keep seeing this concept of rectally dosing coming up, but no one has the guts to do it. At least it wasn't an enema, Kegluv...<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

ok this is disgusting but funny so here goes..

my buddy that went to MIT up in Boston said he used to go to the park to get weed and sometimes would have to wait around for a while.

so he would talk to this bum every once in awhile.

the bum told him once that this other HARDcore alcoholic bum-whenever he got some money- would attain a bottle of liqour and precede to put it up his ass and let it "soak in" that way b/c it got him fucked up faster.. so kegluv, you might think about trying that with the dunk water..lol

perhaps, to be safe, you should find a different
light source (...UV warning).

LOL... i just got a picture of how that would be done.. I mean liquid 'up' your ass.. you would need like a turkey baister or something.. or a 'butt buddy' so to speak. lol nasty

fahtster

awwwww...faht

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mean liquid 'up' your ass<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
You went too far man

a few of my cakes that have been toss'd recently started getting patches of white fuzz that had green underneat them, it didnt really look like good mycellium but more flat and smooth and when scrap'd away it was green underneat. any id's on this contam?

hehehe... hey i didn't say it first. cough:bdog:cough :P

fahstser

Erroid Vaults says it takes 2-4 days for Psilocybin to leave your body and not be dectected by drug tests. This was on ADM. Is this true? RubberBoa

RubberBoa: That's a take-off from what I published many years ago....3 days and all traces are gone. The same thing happens with Psilocybin when used in "Standard Cells" for Spectrochromatographs. The Cells only last up to 6 months, then the Psilocybin degrades. There is a compound used to halt this, and thus make the Cells effective for longer periods of time. I made note of it somewhere years ago and can't find the name of that compound right now. A Dr. Steinburg in New York was the guy who acutally did the work while working on FMRC's Research Team. The point I am leading up to here is that hair tests will probably not show this either. Hey, with all the concern I have seen over the past 14 years in chat sites about how to keep the magic for the longest period of time......I'm thinking I need to go back and find those notes. If the compound is not toxic, bam, its the answer. I posted this at ADM........slp/fmrc

Hi, i am new to growing mushrooms and i have a few quick questions.

I understand that you can get up to 4 flushes when using cakes then DUNK the cake for get more flushes.


But, how about with Casing? I want to start big, and i rather using Casing than Cakes.

1) How many flushes would a Case produce?

2) After the flushes, the Case should be thrown away?


Any Help would be greatly appreciated.

THANKS