blue candle cactus is not active

[cocoa krispy cakes]

don't know if you guys have ever heard of this.. ..Blue Candle - Myrtillocactus geometrizans it has mescaline and nothing else listed in it.. it's active when eaten raw!
ref. ... quoted to save time "
Myrtillocactus
M. geometrizans -
Native to the central Mexican plateau. A tree-like plant with distinct upward curving branches. Stems have 4 to 5 wide ribs, bearing slightely felted areoles set far apart. Has 5 small, reddish-brown radial spines. Each areole can have several short, greenish flowers. The edible fruit is bright blue and globular, reiniscent of a blueberry in appearance.
Contains: mescaline.".. from visionary cactus guide on erowid. also, listed in the back of Tihkal under mescaline.

[buteo]

hmm sounds promising u have any? lol

[prism]

Interesting... This might require some attention...

Thanks for sharing!!

[jay-pheno]

i really dont think it has any in it ,, allthough it is a great grafting stock plant

[badger1]

that is interesting.. anyone ever tried the blue myrtle??

[jay-pheno]

Myrtillocactus geometrizans
Full sun
15c +
Medium watering-right after substrate dries
Easy grafting
Fast growing, permanent stock
Advantages
1. Fast growth rate.
2. Tolerates some over watering.
3. Loves heat.
4. Accepts almost any scion specie.
Disadvantages
1. Doesn't like cool weather.
Notes: This is another very popular grafting stock. It is an all around good stock for most species of cacti. It can tolerate a fair amount of water when kept warm, but may rot if kept moist and cold. It does best in 20+ degrees. Grafts onto this specie tend to grow at a good rate and keep their form rather nice. They are also a little hardier when grafting scions too. They should not be kept as humid as long as other stocks such as Hylocereus or they may develop rot or other infections. From graft to outdoor sunshine we usually allow 3 weeks.
This is very similar in growth rate as Trichcereus pachanoi, but prefers warmer temps; where as T. pachanoi can tolerate cooler temps for longer periods. For warmer climates, this is a better choice. For cooler climates T. pachanoi is probably a wiser choice.

[pharmer]

it would be useful to know the percent of dry weight yield of mescaline is before we start boiling and extracting. if it's .0001 there's not much point to sacrificing them.

also: my pachanoi have grown two full inches since the weather turned cool here a month ago in Michigan. As near as I can tell they grow better in 40 F degrees than 80-90 degrrees with all they water and food they want.

[Frequency]

Originally Posted by cocoa krispy cakes

Blue Candle - Myrtillocactus geometrizans it has mescaline and nothing else listed in it.. it's active when eaten raw!

No they don't. No they're not. They're just great for use as grafting stock for peyote, and many other cacti as well. Do not eat or extract from this cactus.

[Burger]

Originally Posted by Frequency

No they don't. No they're not.

[cocoa krispy cakes]

Originally Posted by Frequency

No they don't. No they're not. They're just great for use as grafting stock for peyote, and many other cacti as well.

why would you say that? how can you be so sure?

Originally Posted by Frequency

Do not eat or extract from this cactus.

do you happen to know of something dangerous that lurkes inside the cactus? what gives?

Originally Posted by pharmer

it would be useful to know the percent of dry weight yield of mescaline is before we start boiling and extracting. if it's .0001 there's not much point to sacrificing them.

also: my pachanoi have grown two full inches since the weather turned cool here a month ago in Michigan. As near as I can tell they grow better in 40 F degrees than 80-90 degrrees with all they water and food they want.

don't start boiling and extracting! that's what i was saying before..i think that boiling and extracting would destroy the more delicate structures within..

did y'all check my references? aw, that is crap. why did you trash this? seriously can't imagine it could be true?

[Irishlion]

Originally Posted by cocoa krispy cakes

don't know if you guys have ever heard of this.. ..Blue Candle - Myrtillocactus geometrizans it has mescaline and nothing else listed in it.. it's active when eaten raw!

LOL gotta love erowid. Sometimes what they have as fact blows my mind.

PUMMANGURA et al. 1982 reported that mescaline did not transmigrate between grafted T. pachanoi and T. spachianus regardless of which was used as a stock and scion. Their conclusion was that mescaline was locally produced and noncirculating.
While it may or may not be true that transmigration of alkaloids does not occur, SINISCALCO 1983 reported that the normally mescaline-free Myrtillocactus geometrizans was found to contain 0.3% mescaline by dry weight after having previously been grafted with Lophophora williamsii.

The Above study is where this Myrtillocactus geometrizans is active came from. There is much debate about the tranmigration of alkaliods between stock and scion. This is a very interesting subject as in many cases there have been stock to have been found with alkaliods in them from the scion most times though there is no transmigration of alkaliods, perhaps this has to do with the certain type of cactus it is and how long the scion was on the stock. But, there is no rock solid proof.

Some interesting reads if you are up to it

http://www.mfaint.demon.co.uk/cactus...alkaloids.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14674859/T...macology-Vol35


http://psy.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...stract/9/3/145

[cocoa krispy cakes]

wow, you guys suck! your loss!