general Archive through April 21, 2004 - Page 6

04-09-04, 11:55

The above bottom red poppies witht he street in the image was taken int he University district of Seattle.

They have been there every year for the last 8.

mj

04-09-04, 12:06

Everyone at mycotopia,
Our special ends shortly (tonight). We will be having another special right after but most likely not as good as this one. after tonight we will only honor mail post marked today for that special...

swine · 04-09-04, 12:53

http://www.nicosphere3000.com/

04-09-04, 12:58

Lol - that's some funny shit!

sol

04-09-04, 16:15

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

A) pull out quickly. The result is that Irag becomes a radical islamic state like Iran.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
i don't think that's certain,
esp. if we poured money and arms to factions
that we like
such as the kurds
i think we could do the same that the militants are doing, i.e.
prevent them from forming a state
destabilize their areas
foment insurrection
and make them defend their bases
divide & balkanize the country into small fiefdoms
each too small to do much harm
like afghanistan

04-09-04, 17:20

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

There are good people here, and lots of cool pics to drool over!<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>*cough*hidra's lady*cough*

04-09-04, 18:40

you guys ever post pics/stats of the server? RC from overgrow did a few months ago and it blew my mind...

cleanjar · 04-09-04, 19:27

I'm eyeballing the begining and end shows, bonaroo & the altanta show...

The west coast dates set are looking nice too, but too far for my head...actually, wtf am i talking about, i should just get up and leave and follow the music again, hehehe,

I should follow all the music in the first leg, and then most of the second leg, skipping st louii and detroit though.

04-09-04, 20:09

Cleanjars response to another post got me thinkin' We have alot of good folks that have music as a really big part of their life. Not just as an aside (top 40 bullshit)

With money, work, and car out of the equation, who would you like to follow/tour with this summer?

I'd like to check out the North Mississippi Allstars.

chnop35 · 04-09-04, 21:13

Ahhh, I have a wireless Linksys with a switch but I don't think it has a place for a card. The card goes in my laptop. But will ask my bro this weekend, he can probably help. I have got firmware upgrades from Linksys before.
But, I'll ask the geek!

04-09-04, 21:16

Never heard of them. I'm gonna look them up.

Don't know who I would tour with nowadays. I haven't got time but for one or two shows a year.

I wish I was young again and had my summers completely free.

04-09-04, 21:19

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=51 9&ncid=519&e=1&u=/ap/20040409/ap_on_re_us/enron_sk illing

I hope he's really fucking paranoid. Asshole deserves to go to jail. Heh, to think the Feds have drove him to the point he thinks everybody's a cop. Now we just need for somebody to dose him and send him on a wild rampage through central park.

04-09-04, 21:45

Didn't Trafficanti the old Tampa mob boss pull the same gimick? He played senile I think and not paranoid, but it's the same gimick.

04-09-04, 22:43

Here is a little something to help pass the time while tripping out:

http://archives.obs-us.com/obs/english/books/holt/ books/maze/

04-09-04, 22:43

Hey folks its us again
due to requests of keeping special going through out the weekend thats what we are gona do. so upgrade will be going till sunday night midnight.
Thanks everyone.

jim · 04-09-04, 23:32

Hip, I don't know what happened with that picture. It was my first try at posting so I'm not to familiar with the workings of this stuff. I posted it in the test forum and it was there. When I checked it out it was huge, about a quarter of it fit on the screen. The link I posted there was a cut and paste from the browser. Anyrate, it's no big deal, when I figure this out I'll post smaller shots of my gardens.

What is a big deal is that I only have about one day to figure this out to post some other pictures here.

04-10-04, 00:35

You probably have the same setup as I... I'm looking for a specific model...

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

Linksys BEFCMUH4 Cable Modem/Router<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

04-10-04, 00:42

i would love to tour, i'm young, and my options are open... but shows these days are so fucking expensive it isnt even worth it.
$50 for a ticket to something and i still gotta pay for gas and party favors... it just isnt worth it.
i gotta leave touring to the trust fund hippies...
prep school hippie,
or hip school preppie,
i can't decide...}

04-10-04, 00:59

Phish...that said, I'm very excited about the All Good festival. The lineup is amazing. mmw, gba, soulive, keller williams...

http://www.walther-productions.com/8All_Good.htm

shroomzhilla · 04-10-04, 01:01

I seem to hit this site first and forget what I got on line for to begin with. then 'poof' out of time! so much good stuff here-just hate dial up though.

04-10-04, 01:21

Dude, the Dead until they're dead! You don't need a ticket or to even get in to enjoy the show, if ya know what I mean. Plus there are always miracles! I love touring and would leave in an instant, even if I am almost broke, but I'm insane.
PB

shroomzhilla · 04-10-04, 01:24

Different strokes for different folks they say, maybe saddam had the clear picture on the only way to rule a country of people with this kind of mentality. I wont say its humane or right to rule a country like he did but he was very effective in keeping the people in line over there.
I dont think there will be peace over there as long as there is any one able to pick up a stick or stone. there has never been peace in these regions through out history, I dont think there ever will be.
here's an entertaining thought: what if saddam gets a slick lawyer and by some miracle beats the charges against him? do ya think he'd get set free and given everything back? maybe he was just misunderstood afterall.<-joke part.
I dont know what I'd do over there as far as keeping troops or leaving it to go to hell in Iraq, but I do know that if I had to go or if my kids had to go I'd be calling for a swift door to door clean out. but thats the american way right?
why not build a shitload of prisons and start loading them up like we do here?

04-10-04, 01:59

I agree.

And if by some wild chance that saddam get off, he will surely be assinated by CIA/Iraqi Police. The United States will not lose face over that one. The whole reason for going was because he was supposedly an evil man. So there is no way in hell he will ever be free.

If I were him I would prefer to be in jail. Money bought his ass and money will kill his ass if need be. That's the way it goes.

Everybody will know we did it but will also understand why. Gotta save face ya know?

04-10-04, 02:05

Well I'm not sure which mob boss it was but he used to wonder around the streets in his bath robe. He was faking it. It's a little harder to pull off the paranoid thing though. Of course you are paranoid dude, your ass is under massive surveilance :P It won't get you far in court because it's a normal response to feel that way when you are guilty.... Now he still may try and get some kind of looney tunes thing going on though. I think he was just drunk, tired of the feds watching him and paranoid. Probally on pills and alcohol. Plus throw a shit load of arrogance into the mix and you get some asshole ripping the shirts off people looking for wires.

onediadem · 04-10-04, 02:48

If they dont want us to know, we aint gonna know. People dissapear everyday here in the good ol' us of a.

natura · 04-10-04, 06:12

Date: 8 avril 2004 17:47:11 GMT+02:00
Objet: MAPS: Al Hubbard's FBI File

Al Hubbard's FBI File

Click here for the file
(Acrobat format, 11 megs)
http://www.thememoryhole.org/hubbard/hubbard_fbi_f ile.htm

>>> For an introduction to the mysterious Al Hubbard - the "Johnny
Appleseed of LSD" - see Documents on Al Hubbard at
http://www.thememoryhole.org/hubbard/index.htm

At the link above is the FBI file for this pioneer of psychedelic drugs.
In response to a FOIA request from DC-area researcher Michael Ravnitzky, it
was recently released for the first time ever.

For such a pivotal character in recent history, Al Hubbard is remarkably little known. He is the unsung man who almost single-handedly introduced the world to LSD, as well as (to a lesser degree) mescaline and psilocybin. Albert Hoffman may have invented LSD, but Hubbard is the one who, in the very early years, gave it away like candy to some of the most influential people on the planet.

A true cipher, Hubbard was visionary, eccentric, friendly, and mysterious. At various times, he was an intelligence agent, an inventor, a millionaire, a clinical therapist, and more. There appear to be links between Hubbard and MKULTRA, the CIA program that researched behavior modification using LSD and other substances and techniques.

The definitive article on Hubbard is "The Original Captain Trips" by Todd Brendan Fahey, who also wrote a novel (Wisdom's Maw) that prominently features Hubbard. While researching Hubbard, Todd was given access to a cache of primary documents about the "acid messiah." This material has never been seen publicly until now. Todd has scanned these rare, one-of-a-kind documents and graciously sent them to us for posting.

Hubbard's FBI file
"The Original Captain Trips"
Mondo 2000 interview with Todd Brendan Fahey

04-10-04, 07:20

well i'm not sure which mob boss it was but he used to wander around the streets in his bath robe.he was faking it.that's was carmine the chin galante

04-10-04, 08:39

Paging Lana -
Paging Lana -
I can't get through with emails or phone calls and have some big orders to place.
PM or email me Lana, please.
Tyler
contact@triplehelixspores.com

04-10-04, 08:57

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

I certainly
wonder why Navy Seals were required to guard food and
aid, and why shipments of weapons, political targets, etc.,
never get shot up - it's always food and aid. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
that's a pretty unfair statement,
who would you have as guards,
girl scouts ?
plenty of military convoys getting hit
so to insinuate otherwise
is disingenous.

04-10-04, 09:02

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

Why are we still in Iraq? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
i agree.
that IS the important question.
even if we concede that saddam had to go,
i think it is unlikely
that the US can install a friendly government in iraq that can survive the US departure for long.
i think iraqi nationalist pride will require that they un-do whatever we impose
and create their own state.
so i think we are just shooting ourselves in the foot by over-staying our welcome.
i agree with bush on the june 30 deadline,
come hell or high water.
turn it over to them
and start heading for the exits.
if the iraqis want to fight among themselves,
no power on earth can stop them.
why should our boys die trying ?

04-10-04, 09:05

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

pissed off south and central americans or even columbians,now that scares me. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
indeed, we had better hope
that front stays quiet.

04-10-04, 09:09

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

the european states don't have control of the oil trade.

if they did the oil would be traded in euros,but it is still traded in dollars<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
that's arguable.
for one thing,
the euro is a very new currency
the pricing in dollars predates the introduction of the euro so it's hard to argue that proves europe doesn't control the oil trade as much as the US.

04-10-04, 09:12

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

to protest israel invading palestine<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
lol
now there's a bias if i ever saw one.
on what date did israel 'invade' palestine ?
last i heard
it was the other way around...
even the arabs have to admit that they attacked
israel, not vice versa as you imply.

04-10-04, 09:16

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

maybe saddam had the clear picture on the only way to rule a country of people with this kind of mentality<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
i think that is, in essence, a racist statement.
i see folks all the time talking like the arabs are somehow different than other races/nations,
incapable of acting civilized.
did you know they just held elections in algeria ?
real elections as witnessed by international observers.
but as was implied earlier,
israel is the thorn in their side.
until the israeli-palestinian issue is resolved
there can be no real peace in the middle east.

04-10-04, 09:20

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

I do know that if I had to go or if my kids had to go I'd be calling for a swift door to door clean out. but thats the american way right? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
if we start targeting innocent civilians
then we have become terrorists too.
carpet-bombing fallujah might be satisfying on a primal gut-level
but unless we are seriously prepared to incinerate a few hundred million muslims
then that's a method best avoided.
we must show a clear moral distinction
between our methods and those of the terrorists'
or else we will lose this war.

04-10-04, 09:23

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

So there is no way in hell he will ever be free. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
maybe since the militants want us gone so badly
and we can't leave the country in anarchy
we should just tell the iraqis
fine, we'll go,
then release saddam and his buddies and hand them back the keys to the kingdom.

04-10-04, 09:24

"that's a pretty unfair statement,
who would you have as guards,
girl scouts ?"

hehehehehehehehe! You're a trip!

04-10-04, 09:28

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:

Hip, I don't know what happened with that picture. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
me neither.
sorry

04-10-04, 09:43

O.K., I must have been G'd out and not made much sense.

What I meant was, money, work, and transportation were not an issue. So lets say you won the lottery, and had a fat-ass VW bus, what tour THIS SUMMER piques your interest.

Hell, I'd follow Panic 'til they called it quits, but since they are out of it this year, it'd be the Allstars.

sleestak · 04-10-04, 10:18

Air Supply all the way

cleanjar · 04-10-04, 10:24

Trey Anastasio, i would do a full trey-tour, that'd be sweet.. i'd also follow vida-blue (Page McConnells band).. i'd do those two in an instant.. 'the dead' is still one-seriously-out-ofcontrol band to follow, i couldn't do a dead tour, too intense, too much trouble for my blood anymore.. also, even though i used to live for 'phish'; those events are just too much trouble going on (and the ticket prices are too high for many to see them all, heck, touring is two or three times as expensive now as it was 10 years ago), too big for my blood.. if phish left the states and did europe or another country i'd definately do that again.. smaller venues, not so many people.. trey shows are kinda big now too.... another thing, phish doesn't seem to set their tours up like they used to, they don't bounce from state to state from night-to-night anymore, which is understandable considering the size of their stage and their fan-base, they've created a circus.. i still think phish is the greatest musical element on the planet today,

the size of their organization and their fan-base slightly frightens me, those guys never cease to entertain though. I'm waiting for phish to do a stadium tour (!~)

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04-09-04, 16:15	#255 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> A) pull out quickly. The result is that Irag becomes a radical islamic state like Iran.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> i don't think that's certain, esp. if we poured money and arms to factions that we like such as the kurds i think we could do the same that the militants are doing, i.e. prevent them from forming a state destabilize their areas foment insurrection and make them defend their bases divide & balkanize the country into small fiefdoms each too small to do much harm like afghanistan

04-09-04, 17:20	#256 (permalink)
~mushroom Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> There are good people here, and lots of cool pics to drool over!<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>coughhidra's ladycough

04-09-04, 21:13	#260 (permalink)
chnop35 Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 486	Ahhh, I have a wireless Linksys with a switch but I don't think it has a place for a card. The card goes in my laptop. But will ask my bro this weekend, he can probably help. I have got firmware upgrades from Linksys before. But, I'll ask the geek! __________________ ...keep your feet on the ground :)

04-10-04, 00:35	#267 (permalink)
~mushroom Guest Posts: n/a	You probably have the same setup as I... I'm looking for a specific model... <blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> Linksys BEFCMUH4 Cable Modem/Router<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

04-09-04, 11:55	#251 (permalink)
~mjshroomer Guest Posts: n/a	The above bottom red poppies witht he street in the image was taken int he University district of Seattle. They have been there every year for the last 8. mj

04-09-04, 12:06	#252 (permalink)
~spore Guest Posts: n/a	Everyone at mycotopia, Our special ends shortly (tonight). We will be having another special right after but most likely not as good as this one. after tonight we will only honor mail post marked today for that special...

04-09-04, 12:53	#253 (permalink)
swine Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 114	http://www.nicosphere3000.com/

04-09-04, 12:58	#254 (permalink)
~soliver Guest Posts: n/a	Lol - that's some funny shit! sol

04-09-04, 18:40	#257 (permalink)
~marvin Guest Posts: n/a	you guys ever post pics/stats of the server? RC from overgrow did a few months ago and it blew my mind...

04-09-04, 19:27	#258 (permalink)
cleanjar Mycotopiate Join Date: Sep 1971 Posts: 1,037	I'm eyeballing the begining and end shows, bonaroo & the altanta show... The west coast dates set are looking nice too, but too far for my head...actually, wtf am i talking about, i should just get up and leave and follow the music again, hehehe, I should follow all the music in the first leg, and then most of the second leg, skipping st louii and detroit though.

04-09-04, 20:09	#259 (permalink)
~disco Guest Posts: n/a	Cleanjars response to another post got me thinkin' We have alot of good folks that have music as a really big part of their life. Not just as an aside (top 40 bullshit) With money, work, and car out of the equation, who would you like to follow/tour with this summer? I'd like to check out the North Mississippi Allstars.

04-09-04, 21:16	#261 (permalink)
~gw Guest Posts: n/a	Never heard of them. I'm gonna look them up. Don't know who I would tour with nowadays. I haven't got time but for one or two shows a year. I wish I was young again and had my summers completely free.

04-09-04, 21:19	#262 (permalink)
~gw Guest Posts: n/a	http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=51 9&ncid=519&e=1&u=/ap/20040409/ap_on_re_us/enron_sk illing I hope he's really fucking paranoid. Asshole deserves to go to jail. Heh, to think the Feds have drove him to the point he thinks everybody's a cop. Now we just need for somebody to dose him and send him on a wild rampage through central park.

04-09-04, 21:45	#263 (permalink)
~dead Guest Posts: n/a	Didn't Trafficanti the old Tampa mob boss pull the same gimick? He played senile I think and not paranoid, but it's the same gimick.

04-09-04, 22:43	#264 (permalink)
~jesse Guest Posts: n/a	Here is a little something to help pass the time while tripping out: http://archives.obs-us.com/obs/english/books/holt/ books/maze/

04-09-04, 22:43	#265 (permalink)
~spore Guest Posts: n/a	Hey folks its us again due to requests of keeping special going through out the weekend thats what we are gona do. so upgrade will be going till sunday night midnight. Thanks everyone.

04-09-04, 23:32	#266 (permalink)
jim Mycophage Join Date: Oct 1971 Posts: 117	Hip, I don't know what happened with that picture. It was my first try at posting so I'm not to familiar with the workings of this stuff. I posted it in the test forum and it was there. When I checked it out it was huge, about a quarter of it fit on the screen. The link I posted there was a cut and paste from the browser. Anyrate, it's no big deal, when I figure this out I'll post smaller shots of my gardens. What is a big deal is that I only have about one day to figure this out to post some other pictures here.

04-10-04, 00:42	#268 (permalink)
~guitjolin Guest Posts: n/a	i would love to tour, i'm young, and my options are open... but shows these days are so fucking expensive it isnt even worth it. $50 for a ticket to something and i still gotta pay for gas and party favors... it just isnt worth it. i gotta leave touring to the trust fund hippies... prep school hippie, or hip school preppie, i can't decide...}

04-10-04, 00:59	#269 (permalink)
~al Guest Posts: n/a	Phish...that said, I'm very excited about the All Good festival. The lineup is amazing. mmw, gba, soulive, keller williams... http://www.walther-productions.com/8All_Good.htm

04-10-04, 01:01	#270 (permalink)
shroomzhilla Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1971 Posts: 232	I seem to hit this site first and forget what I got on line for to begin with. then 'poof' out of time! so much good stuff here-just hate dial up though. __________________ My inner child is a sick little fucker and I feed him soylent green

04-10-04, 01:21	#271 (permalink)
~pbeester Guest Posts: n/a	Dude, the Dead until they're dead! You don't need a ticket or to even get in to enjoy the show, if ya know what I mean. Plus there are always miracles! I love touring and would leave in an instant, even if I am almost broke, but I'm insane. PB

04-10-04, 01:24	#272 (permalink)
shroomzhilla Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1971 Posts: 232	Different strokes for different folks they say, maybe saddam had the clear picture on the only way to rule a country of people with this kind of mentality. I wont say its humane or right to rule a country like he did but he was very effective in keeping the people in line over there. I dont think there will be peace over there as long as there is any one able to pick up a stick or stone. there has never been peace in these regions through out history, I dont think there ever will be. here's an entertaining thought: what if saddam gets a slick lawyer and by some miracle beats the charges against him? do ya think he'd get set free and given everything back? maybe he was just misunderstood afterall.<-joke part. I dont know what I'd do over there as far as keeping troops or leaving it to go to hell in Iraq, but I do know that if I had to go or if my kids had to go I'd be calling for a swift door to door clean out. but thats the american way right? why not build a shitload of prisons and start loading them up like we do here? __________________ My inner child is a sick little fucker and I feed him soylent green

04-10-04, 01:59	#273 (permalink)
~gw Guest Posts: n/a	I agree. And if by some wild chance that saddam get off, he will surely be assinated by CIA/Iraqi Police. The United States will not lose face over that one. The whole reason for going was because he was supposedly an evil man. So there is no way in hell he will ever be free. If I were him I would prefer to be in jail. Money bought his ass and money will kill his ass if need be. That's the way it goes. Everybody will know we did it but will also understand why. Gotta save face ya know?

04-10-04, 02:05	#274 (permalink)
~gw Guest Posts: n/a	Well I'm not sure which mob boss it was but he used to wonder around the streets in his bath robe. He was faking it. It's a little harder to pull off the paranoid thing though. Of course you are paranoid dude, your ass is under massive surveilance :P It won't get you far in court because it's a normal response to feel that way when you are guilty.... Now he still may try and get some kind of looney tunes thing going on though. I think he was just drunk, tired of the feds watching him and paranoid. Probally on pills and alcohol. Plus throw a shit load of arrogance into the mix and you get some asshole ripping the shirts off people looking for wires.

04-10-04, 02:48	#275 (permalink)
onediadem Alpha Comae Berenices Join Date: Jan 1971 Posts: 621	<font color="aa00aa">If they dont want us to know, we aint gonna know. People dissapear everyday here in the good ol' us of a.</font> __________________ No confidant can ever betray, all the words you didn't say.

04-10-04, 06:12	#276 (permalink)
natura Mycophage Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 106	Date: 8 avril 2004 17:47:11 GMT+02:00 Objet: MAPS: Al Hubbard's FBI File Al Hubbard's FBI File Click here for the file (Acrobat format, 11 megs) http://www.thememoryhole.org/hubbard/hubbard_fbi_f ile.htm >>> For an introduction to the mysterious Al Hubbard - the "Johnny Appleseed of LSD" - see Documents on Al Hubbard at http://www.thememoryhole.org/hubbard/index.htm At the link above is the FBI file for this pioneer of psychedelic drugs. In response to a FOIA request from DC-area researcher Michael Ravnitzky, it was recently released for the first time ever. For such a pivotal character in recent history, Al Hubbard is remarkably little known. He is the unsung man who almost single-handedly introduced the world to LSD, as well as (to a lesser degree) mescaline and psilocybin. Albert Hoffman may have invented LSD, but Hubbard is the one who, in the very early years, gave it away like candy to some of the most influential people on the planet. A true cipher, Hubbard was visionary, eccentric, friendly, and mysterious. At various times, he was an intelligence agent, an inventor, a millionaire, a clinical therapist, and more. There appear to be links between Hubbard and MKULTRA, the CIA program that researched behavior modification using LSD and other substances and techniques. The definitive article on Hubbard is "The Original Captain Trips" by Todd Brendan Fahey, who also wrote a novel (Wisdom's Maw) that prominently features Hubbard. While researching Hubbard, Todd was given access to a cache of primary documents about the "acid messiah." This material has never been seen publicly until now. Todd has scanned these rare, one-of-a-kind documents and graciously sent them to us for posting. Hubbard's FBI file "The Original Captain Trips" Mondo 2000 interview with Todd Brendan Fahey

04-10-04, 07:20	#277 (permalink)
~harry Guest Posts: n/a	well i'm not sure which mob boss it was but he used to wander around the streets in his bath robe.he was faking it.that's was carmine the chin galante

04-10-04, 08:39	#278 (permalink)
~dat-jerk-from-triplehelix Guest Posts: n/a	Paging Lana - Paging Lana - I can't get through with emails or phone calls and have some big orders to place. PM or email me Lana, please. Tyler contact@triplehelixspores.com

04-10-04, 08:57	#279 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> I certainly wonder why Navy Seals were required to guard food and aid, and why shipments of weapons, political targets, etc., never get shot up - it's always food and aid. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> that's a pretty unfair statement, who would you have as guards, girl scouts ? plenty of military convoys getting hit so to insinuate otherwise is disingenous.

04-10-04, 09:02	#280 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> Why are we still in Iraq? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> i agree. that IS the important question. even if we concede that saddam had to go, i think it is unlikely that the US can install a friendly government in iraq that can survive the US departure for long. i think iraqi nationalist pride will require that they un-do whatever we impose and create their own state. so i think we are just shooting ourselves in the foot by over-staying our welcome. i agree with bush on the june 30 deadline, come hell or high water. turn it over to them and start heading for the exits. if the iraqis want to fight among themselves, no power on earth can stop them. why should our boys die trying ?

04-10-04, 09:05	#281 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> pissed off south and central americans or even columbians,now that scares me. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> indeed, we had better hope that front stays quiet.

04-10-04, 09:09	#282 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> the european states don't have control of the oil trade. if they did the oil would be traded in euros,but it is still traded in dollars<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> that's arguable. for one thing, the euro is a very new currency the pricing in dollars predates the introduction of the euro so it's hard to argue that proves europe doesn't control the oil trade as much as the US.

04-10-04, 09:12	#283 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> to protest israel invading palestine<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> lol now there's a bias if i ever saw one. on what date did israel 'invade' palestine ? last i heard it was the other way around... even the arabs have to admit that they attacked israel, not vice versa as you imply.

04-10-04, 09:16	#284 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font> maybe saddam had the clear picture on the only way to rule a country of people with this kind of mentality<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> i think that is, in essence, a racist statement. i see folks all the time talking like the arabs are somehow different than other races/nations, incapable of acting civilized. did you know they just held elections in algeria ? real elections as witnessed by international observers. but as was implied earlier, israel is the thorn in their side. until the israeli-palestinian issue is resolved there can be no real peace in the middle east.