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if someone ordered psilocybe spores and a mycobag in the same order, wouldn't that be grounds for intent to grow illegal mushrooms? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

i don't know exactly which site you're talking about but that's not possible here.
i sell no spores to anyone with any of my products.
what spores we do send out
don't go to customers
but random drawings in various contests
so there's no intent on our part,
no conspiracy.
if someone did tell me that they intended to use
my product in any illegal fashion
then i would not sell them or give them anything.

I read about this too.

very interesting

If anyone is still reading this post, you can get really good answers about E from dancesafe.com.

[cleanjar]

"illegal mushrooms"...

[maynardsdick]

i tripped on ecsatsy about 3-4 weeks ago and sometimes get a throbbing in the back on my neck which shoots up to my brain giving me an intense headache.

i ain't gonna try x for a while...but it was a goodamned trip. i actually hallucinated with 2 pills. goddamned, it was intense.

[human]

Hello there!
On a recommendation from a dear friend I registered here, Very much to read still.
Most of the posts I've read lead me to believe that you are a group of fabulous people.
Looking forward to chatting it up with you all!

Welcome!

Howdy

Welcome to Mycotopia, Human!

www.snarg.net is interesting, what is it all about?

[human]

Jesse, Snarg isn't really about anything it's mostly about (to me) discovering and the real meaningless of it all, Something I think we should all be concerned with.
You claim to be a Space Cowboy, so go wrangle some of that thar' space...


(Message edited by BillHicks'Fan on July 23, 2004)

welcome to myco!!

i can't help but to think WAY WAY in the future we might be able to use a black hole.

maybe as a garbage disposal/trashcan...
(and if we do, where's all that shit go?)
or as a power source, a new sun....

incredibly powerful, and mysterious....

(Message edited by suckerfree on July 23, 2004)

[shedthemonkey]

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Welcome to Mycotopia, Human!<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Hey! Watch who you're calling human! Some of us are monkeys!! Oh, new poster NAMED human! LOL! Welcome!!

[python]

(Message edited by python on July 23, 2004)

[mycojay]

welcome

[1dumbmyco]

I saw a show on this the other night and agree Hip about the string theory premise and adds some credence to the inflationary theory being repeated several times. It's way too deep to think about with a buzz. What will we actually "know" during our few tours around the sun fascinates me. On a side note, my dad died of ALS, with which Hawking is afflicted, in 1979. He only survived 5 years and Steve has been going many, many years with the help of technology but who really wants to be a cognitive vegetable?

i've never been in jail, thankfully, but some of my friends have frequented the unhappy place... From what i hear one can make a fairly good income by trading parts of there lunch, and eventually working there way up to trading other peoples lunches, special foods, cig's... etc. perhapps that's how they got the money... And think about it any ways 4 cases of beer it don't cost that much on the out side, but in jail it would be much more valuibile, perhapps that is why they came back, or mby they just wanted to sleep in there beds... I wounder why they where in there in the first place, any one know?

From http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr072204p.html

News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 22, 2004

DEA ANNOUNCES ARRESTS OF WEBSITE
OPERATORS SELLING ILLEGAL DESIGNER DRUGS

WASHINGTON, DC – DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy today announced the culmination of “Operation Web Tryp” that resulted in ten arrests and targeted five websites. Operation Web Tryp investigated Internet websites distributing highly dangerous designer drug analogues under the guise of “research chemicals” primarily shipped to the U.S. from China and India. These websites are known to have thousands of customers worldwide. One website operator is known to conduct estimated sales of $20,000 per week, while another is known to have been in business for more than five years. These websites sold substances that led to the fatal overdose of at least two individuals and 14 non-fatal overdoses.

“The Internet has become the street corner for many drug users and traffickers. Drug pushers who use the Internet will find themselves out of business and behind bars,” Administrator Tandy said. ‘These dealers now enter into the privacy of our own homes to entice and sell destruction to our children veiled under the illusion of being safe and legal. The formulation of analogues is like a drug dealer’s magic trick meant to fool law enforcement. They didn’t fool us and we must educate our children so they are not fooled either. Today’s action will help prevent future deaths and overdoses, and will serve as notice for those dealing in designer drugs and the illegal use of the Internet.”

ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS

This operation resulted in the following website operators arrests on July 21, 2004:

* WWW.RACRESEARCH.COM and WWW.DUNCANLABPRODUCTS.COM
April Curtis and Doug Thompson, website operators of WWW.RACRESEARCH.COM, were arrested yesterday, July 21, in Arizona and Georgia, respectively. The arrests are based on charges of conspiracy to distribute controlled substance analogues out of the Southern District of New York. WWW.RACRESEARCH.COM has so far been linked to non-fatal overdoses of two college students. This investigation by DEA New York and the New York Police Department also uncovered the illegal distribution of designer drugs on WWW.DUNCANLABPRODUCTS.COM . This site was operated by Raymond Duncan and supplied by April Curtis. Duncan was arrested yesterday, July 21, in California based on charges of conspiracy to distribute controlled substance analogues. Both websites were voluntarily terminated.

* WWW.PONDMAN.NU
David Linder, website operator of WWW.PONDMAN.NU was arrested yesterday. This investigation was conducted by DEA and the Naval Criminal Investigative Service in Norfolk, VA. The above site, which purportedly sold landscape supplies, also sold designer drugs. Linder supplied these drugs to U.S.-based Navy personnel who later held rave-style parties to facilitate further distribution. To date, an overdose death of an 18-year-old male and three non-fatal overdoses causing serious bodily injuries have been linked to WWW.PONDMAN.NU. Linder is charged with conspiracy to distribute controlled substance analogues out of the Eastern District of Virginia. This website will be voluntarily terminated.

* WWW.AMERICANCHEMICALSUPPLY.COM
DEA Baton Rouge, LA initiated this investigation that resulted in yesterday’s arrest of Michael Burton, operator of WWW.AMERICANCHEMICALSUPPLY.COM. Charges against Burton and an unidentified coconspirator include illegal distribution with enhanced penalties for causing death, aiding and abetting, and forfeiture out of the Middle District of Louisiana. A restraining order will be issued to prevent use of this website.

* WWW.OMEGAFINECHEMICALS.COM
DEA San Diego yesterday arrested Thomas Kasper, Joseph Kasper, Beth Badrak, and Elaine Villalobos, all California residents, on conspiracy charges to distribute controlled substance analogues, distribution of controlled substance analogues to individuals under the age of 21, and money laundering out of the Southern District of California. These four operated WWW.OMEGAFINECHEMICALS.COM. In addition to the arrests, DEA used warrants to search the Omega Business address, and the residence of Beth Badrak and Tom Kasper in Santa Barbara, CA. A seizure warrant will be served on the Omega website. Two bank accounts were also seized.

BACKGROUND ON DESIGNER DRUGS FROM OPERATION WEB TRYP

The products sold by the above mentioned websites are synthetic substances chemically identified as tryptamines, piperazines, and phenylethylamines. Some of these substances are specifically restricted under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) while others, when intended for human consumption, are controlled under the Controlled Substance Analogue Enforcement Act (CSAEA). Prior to the CSAEA, chemists would cause slight changes in the molecular structure of a controlled substance to circumvent the CSA. The CSAEA was enacted to arm law enforcement with the tools needed to stay one step ahead of the drug dealers’ innovations. On the street and in Internet chat rooms these substances go by innocuous names such as “Foxy Methoxy” and “DIPT.” Many young people are led to believe that these substances are a form of “legal” Ecstasy or LSD because they produce similar hallucinogenic effects. Adolescents and young adults are primary abusers of these chemicals. Many have the false impression that they are not as harmful or addictive as mainstream drugs such as heroin or cocaine. This is a highly dangerous emerging drug trend. Because the recommended dosages can vary by as little as a milligram, any slight miscalculation can cause fatal results.

OVERDOSE VICTIMS

In April 2002, an 18-year-old male in Hancock, New York died after consuming a chemical obtained from WWW.PONDMAN.NU. A 19-year-old male friend of the decedent later confirmed using similar chemicals obtained from WWW.PONDMAN.NU that resulted in him suffering from seizures, floating spots in his vision, memory lapses, uncontrollable teeth grinding and large lumps that would appear and disappear periodically on his face and neck.

In December 2003, police responded to a call of a college student found unconscious, unresponsive and turning blue on the kitchen floor of a residence in Fairhaven, Massachusetts. He had been lying on the floor for 45 minutes before a call for help was made. This student was suffering from the ingestion of a substance he obtained from WWW.RACRESEARCH.COM. This overdose victim now suffers from chronic, violent seizures.

In March 2004, a 22-year-old male resident of St. Francisville, Louisiana died after ingesting a substance he believed to be similar to Ecstasy. When found by his mother he asked to be driven to the hospital where he died three days later. His body temperature had reached an astounding 108 degrees. It was later found that the substance used was sent from WWW.AMERICANCHEMICALSUPPLY.COM, one of the targeted websites in this investigation.

These website operators attempted to give an appearance of legitimacy to their websites by presumably selling these chemicals to bona fide researchers; however, a review of customer lists revealed purchasers with e-mail addresses such as acidtripo420@; ecstasylight@; madtriper17@; moontripperdipt@; partys_with_glow_sticks@; professor@; psychedelic_stoner@; and ravergirlny@.

SPECIAL THANKS AND RECOGNITION

These enforcement actions demonstrate the DEA’s steadfast commitment to identifying and preventing any illegal drug distribution through the use of the Internet. The success of this operation could not have taken place without the cooperation and coordination of the following:

DEA and US Attorney’s Office, Albuquerque, NM
DEA and US Attorney’s Office, Baton Rouge, LA
DEA, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Ward County Narcotics Task Force, North Dakota Bureau of Criminal Investigations, and US Attorney’s Office, North Dakota
Food and Drug Administration and US Postal Inspection Service, Minnesota
DEA, New York Police Department and US Attorney’s Office, New York, NY
DEA, Naval Criminal Investigative Service, and US Attorney’s Office, Norfolk, VA
DEA, Food and Drug Administration, US Postal Inspection Service, Internal Revenue Service, and US Attorney’s Office, San Diego, CA
Federal Bureau of Investigation, Santa Maria, CA
US Forestry Service and Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office, Santa Barbara, CA
DEA, Las Vegas, NV
DEA, Riverside, CA
DEA, Phoenix, AZ
DEA, Macon, GA

Looks like my idle plans to research
stayed idle for too long =/

[life]

hawking does.. or he would choose not to be here.

I'm glad I never touched any of those. I'm fine with my illegal black market shit.

[pskovinsky]

OMG! TWO FATAL OD'S!!

And how many alcohol poisoning deaths were there in the last five years?


Such bullshit.

Screw you Tandy, and your DEA.

damn

[lothar187]

Lothar.

Don't incriminate yourself. Be sober when you post. Your post crossed the line. I'm no censor, but had to edit this one.
RR

(Message edited by skyypilot on July 23, 2004)

<font color="0000ff">Welcome! I got 'lost' on your site last night. A virtual media mouthful! <u>Very</u> cool.</font>

Welcome! I liked that page that sorta lets you build your own 3D molecule. My girlfriend probably thinks I'm trying to make anthrax or something

Follow up.....

07/22/2004 2:30 PM ET
Black-hole physicist pays up
By Brian Wilson / MLB.com

After 30 years of arguing that a black hole was basically a cosmic version of Brooks Robinson, Dr. Stephen Hawking has lost his bet, and the stakes were a baseball encyclopedia.
The Cambridge University physicist had to pay up on a 1997 bet with a California Institute of Technology physicist, when he admitted his original assertion, that anything "swallowed by a black hole is forever hidden and can never be revealed," was incorrect.

Dr. Hawking spoke Wednesday at the 17th International Conference of General Relativity and Gravitation in Dublin. His revision now states that eventually some of the information about the black hole can be determined from what it emits.

His original offer of a cricket encyclopedia was turned down in favor of "Total Baseball: The Ultimate Baseball Encyclopedia" -- from which the winning physicist, Dr. John Preskill, can recover information at will.

Preskill told the assembled media he'd always hoped there'd be witnesses when Hawking conceded, but "this really exceeds my expectations."

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who really wants to be a cognitive vegetable? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
i suppose that still
beats the alternative.

Two Guilty of Canine Cocaine Smuggling Bid

Thu Jul 22, 9:20 AM ET Add Oddly Enough - Reuters to My Yahoo!

LONDON (Reuters) - Two Britons were found guilty on Wednesday of an elaborate plot to smuggle cocaine into the country by surgically implanting packets of the drug inside two Labrador dogs.



Gregory Graham, 27, and Kaye Chapman, 20, plotted to smuggle 1.3 kilograms of cocaine into Britain hidden inside the stomachs of golden Labrador Rex and black Labrador Frispa.


But the scheme was foiled when officials at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport became suspicious at the behavior of Rex and Frispa when they arrived from Colombia en route to London's Stansted Airport.


Rex was lively but a drugs package had burst inside Frispa and she was lying apathetically.


Dutch vets operated on the dogs, removing 11 cylindrical objects from Rex and 10 from Frispa, who later died.


Altogether the packets contained a total of 1.3 kilograms of cocaine.


British police then swooped when two men and a woman arrived at Stansted to pick the dogs up, and arrested the owner of the house where the dogs were to be sent.


On Wednesday Gregory and Chapman were convicted at Norwich Crown Court of conspiracy to import drugs. Two other co-accused were cleared.


"This was an extremely callous method of drug importation that resulted in the death of Frispa and the needless suffering of Rex," said Detective Chief Inspector Andy McDonald afterwards.

source

I for one am glad they got burned for abusing these animals.
I am no PETA freak, but IMHO this is the worst kind of example of greed and cruelty.
Too bad greed gets the better of some.
"Instant Karma's gonna get you,
Smack you right in the face."
Joe

Beinvenidos bro...

[lothar187]

thanks and sorry....

[lothar187]

I prematurely blew my load, but now I am sober.

This action makes me cry deep down inside. I personally never touched any research chemicals, but I always had my eyes on a couple.

It's just the government taking away more of our rights.

This also just proves how much law enforcement watches the 'net.

This is a sad day...

[carpo4]

thanks for mentioning international signed for, demus.
according to the royal mail site, it does cover money sent.
problem sorted!
i may yet grow to love those cats

[lothar187]

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems /research_chems_info1.shtml

here is a link to the story on Erowid.

There are a couple of links on that page to articles on the same subject.

They all pretty much say the same thing so I won't put the articles here.

man this really burns me up....

[roc]

Agreed Joe... the animals had no choice in the matter and that makes it wrong in my books too!

[roc]

Kinda depends on what country the vendor and customer are in doesn't it?

[pupzfanny]

Yeah dood. I had a gram of acid. Then I took another gram. It was really the time of my life man.

well it seems that i've decided to not try anything till after i gewt out of colledge, im going next month, and then i will see about this crazy experement. but for now im going to stick with the mushrooms. and by the way a question on that, if you tripped the night before does that mean the next day you have to double the dose in order to tripp as hard again on shrooms?? i know it's true wiht acid not sure on shrooms yet

yeah.. my friend was over when we read about it
yesterday. After reading it, he literally
started shouting and punching stuff.

in the words of a young Child, " Damn it to Hell!"

What if I think I can get high off bug spray? and I inhale a large amount of this stuff and die, will they sew the company for selling a drug?

I hate the DEA, when I read that it made me want to do something, but you always know where that ends up, in jail...

Anyone, is there anything we can do?

Peace

Sorry Hip



(Message edited by tepin on July 23, 2004)

that, too.

[lothar187]

I wouldnt order if I was you...

just a word to the wise...

ordering research chemicals has always been a grey area, they just pounced on it recently cause of all the publicity it has been getting. All it took was time for the sites to be shut down.

anyone read the story about what happened to the guy running JLF?

pretty much the same thing happened to him about 2-3 years ago (i think)

He was selling 2-c-t-7 when it was legal, some kid died, the DEA came knockin at his door, froze all his accounts, and messed up his buisness. they even had a story about him in Rolling Stone Magazine after it happened.

man this situation sux bawls..

http://www.chemicalland21.com/arokorhi/industrialc hem/organic/DIETHYLAMINE.htm
it wasnt that hard to find...did you try google.

i think you shold look at some pictures of people with ergot poisoning. thatll keep you away from the shit.


(Message edited by triked on July 23, 2004)

I knew it was only a matter of time.

I just didn't know it would be this soon.

I saw two lines of the story going by on the Fox News crawler on the bottom of the screen yesterday, and thought, "Any minute now this will show up on Mycotopia".

"Operation Web Tryp"=Web Tryptamines.

Jeez.

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OMG! TWO FATAL OD'S!!

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Was thinkin' the same thing.

Does anyone who knows better than me think this might be a dangerous precedent for internet spore sales? ethnobotanical sales? mycotopia?

I do. A very, VERY dangerous precedent.

Especially because these analogues that they're now going after have not even been scheduled yet.

I expect the emergency scheduling of these things very soon, though.

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I love hem already, its just I'd perfer to spend the £4 on International Signed for at mushmush. I only have to spend itcos there are so many thieving posties (did you see that programme on the Royal Mail?)