Gearing up for trip in 6 weeks, seeking tips & toys

[morthos]

Good day noble Mycofolk!

I am planning a strong solo trip, and seeking items or ideas of interest. In particular I am curious about links for downloadable music to burn trip CDs with. Please read and advise...

At the end of February I have some time off booked and will have over a week available to myself at a family shack in BC in front of a lake. I have planned the timing to take advantage of the full moon on March 3, and maximize the amount of daylight Im to have given that I have to use up my vacation time before it expires. (sunlight to 5:30pm, avg temp 8C, lake likely not frozen)

I have a lot of old Tapalpans from the summer of 05, stored in 2 layers of freezer bags. Last time with these was July 06. I expect they are weaker, but no worries...Ill just eat a large dose.

What I have in mind is a trip in the day, perhaps with a second dose, which I have never done before, to make best use what has become for me a rare opportunity. I could do a light hike in the bush or stay in the shack, or both.

I will have or could bring: posters, a stereo with CD player, 13inch tv with DVD-VHS player, a PII-350 PC, incense, plenty of pot, bong & pipe, candles, VHS tapes stuffed with Robot Chicken and new South Park episodes, season 4 of Family Guy, lava lamps in green, white, red & blue, and most importantly, complete solitude.

The shack is very basic with frige, running water, ceiling fan & utilities, and good window size. The ceiling and walls are painted and unpainted plywood (lots of patterns & textures!) There is a canoe, but I think that too dangerous given the temp of the water to risk. I have the full range of outdoor gear.

I am seeking to get strong visuals, a sweet body stone, and a good laugh before getting philosophical later in the tripping.

By then I will have only smoked pot once a week (new years resolution slash break), so the pot will hit really hard. I will be building a 2 or 3 chamber ice&water bong for this event. I only go through .125 in 2-3 weeks, but ive got that sleep dependency going on right now you see...have to break it cold turkey over this weekend...done this plenty of times over my decade of smoking. Sidetrack!

Could anyone please post some links to some good tripping music, for: laughs, tribal beat, or just plain trippy (keyboard probs - no Q mark and missing a few other characters mysteriously). I have everything Pink Floyd put out, with highlights on Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother. Plus Colors by Ken Nordine (1966).

Any cool movies to rentQ. I dont get much out of Japanamation, but loved Finding Nimo under the effects. Something visual & funny would be ideal, or mellow and visual...you get the idea; lighthearted.

Finally, any ideas of any kind would be awesome. Ive tripped there twice before, once was great and the other was a bad one (though I should have known...I tripped even though I was stressed to the max, and did so as it was the only time I could, 5.5 yrs ago there).

Interesting flavor sensations would be neat too.

Im not intending to plan the trip of course, thats impossible and ill advised, im just trying to gather some neat things for sweet options.

Thanks a lot!

[siam_jim]

you're goin solo,,,great. however not saying anything could happen but does. how are you set up for emergency? other than that you have everything planned out great.


siam

[TVCasualty]

I used to prepare for trips in a similar fashion. I'd have lots of things I knew to be "trippy" and such gathered for the event, spread out in front of me like the controls of a spaceship, like the trip was something that happened outside of myself.

When the trip started, all that preparation flew out the window real quick. I only trip heavy one of two ways anymore, depending on what I'm after. I either eat a megadose (5-7 grams cubes for me) and immediately walk outside, letting the trip dictate what happens (it will anyway) OR I sit in total darkness indoors with no music/candles/TV/anything. Total sensory deprivation, in other words. That is how the hard-edged visions come for me (like the guy on the Harley who drove into my room and gave me a ride to the intersection of God and Truth once). In darkness/silence, all images and feelings come from within, so much so that inner space seems much larger than the wilderness outside. It can be a white-knuckle ride, but that's the intent.

If I trip indoors, at some point I usually must get up and go outside. By that time I'm over the peak and everything is quietly sublime. I don't even notice any trip toys that might be lying around; a spider in its web or some treebark beats the coolest shiny blinking gizmo by far.

So, my own perspective is that getting one's mind in a contemplative state and having a safe place to be is most important. Trip toys are fun because they remind us of tripping, not because they cause it. I say save yourselves the trouble of hauling gear around, all we need is inside our heads already, except for the bottle of water you should have handy.

And remember, you have to clean it all up at the end! Less is more!

wow...youre like a psychedelic boyscout! very prepared. good luck, i hope everything turns out great for you.

[morthos]

Thanks for the replies!

As for an emergency, there should be one or two houses a little further down the road (a few hundred metres) with year-round people in them. I have a cellphone that works fine in that area, and inlaws about 30K away. Id hardly want to call them unless I had to in that state, as Id be rather surprised if they had ever been hippies in their days...but I could if I had to. In a way the fact that I rode out a bad trip there once helps too...I have a good idea of what its like and how to deal with it.

On that trip I was fooloshly trying to reanact a great trip from months before and went canoeing on a hot cloudless day with far too many boats in the water. That and the stress id been under for the previous few months was too much and I retreated into the shack for hours, crying in the armchair. I eventually had enough of the seige mentality that had been created and dared my demons to come in the window and do their worst. When nothing happened, I realized all my stresses were self inflicted and was able to relax, and the rest of the trip was very nice. I returned to canoeing in the evening during sunset and it was quite beautiful. Long story, but you get the idea.

Ive found before that trip toys are often simply ignored during an event are youre caught up with other things or cant be bothered to play with them. Though I always am interested in visual trips, I sometimes cant be bothered to focus on that either, rather ponder imponderables for a few hours. What I try to do before a trip is set things up so they require little or no effort to do, as I find Im unable to make decisions on a heavy trip.

I expect that the plywood or other semi-natural items may end up to be the trippiest things. A spider web would be cool! I expect that I will go outside, and perhaps even go up a trail behind the shack to areas ive scouted out in previous visits. The shack will be my safe zone to start up and then return to. Treebark is excellent natural fractal material...why there are some nice ones just by the shack!

I would have the shack set up with the toys and such, as well as a backpack with what id need outdoors. Whether id use any of it is another thing, but water, clothes, flashlight, pipe etc would all be in there. Oh yes, and steel-toe winter rubber boots so Im not concerned about what I step in!

Any recommended links for some trippy music please Qmark

Thanks a bunch!

[MrMerlin]

TV pretty much layed out the bones. You seem TOO well prepared friend, rather travel light and embark on what previously eluded your daily experience, thats the only trippieness I dare recommend for such a well deserved adventure.

In the end its your mindflap, but few would argue that an instrument of some sort would gastronomize your musical pangs. Hell, start chanting gibberish to get in the groove, just rethink the toys man, unless they feminine...

[morthos]

Wise advice Mr.Merlin...though I cant help but gather. I do expect that once out of the shack the outdoors will be quite entertaining enough.

Then theres marbles...and Dr Seuss books...

[lyqwyd]

man, i doses yesterday and hiked up a mountain in my backyard, but i packed a backpack witha guitar a notbook sand some water, thinking i might want to have something to do with these items. NOPE. didn't touch any of them. the water froze within an hour too. I figger pack light and do as tv says. the only time i interact with things while im tripping is if they're right in front of me but i DIDN'T plan for them to be there. i also hate tripping shrooms inside. i dunno. to each his own. get a nice fuzzy blaket, its a good safe spot. take care and have fun holmes.

[Cthulhu's Tentacle]

for poster ideas, look for chinese art with fog/clouds and rivers flowing

for example

[Scroto Baggins]

For a good tripper toy I highly suggest you gt your hands on some Astrojax.

"Blues for Allah" by the Greatful Dead is a good one. Also check out this track. It is ambient sound that is tuned to the frequency of 8-12 Hz. This frequency is that of Alpha brainwaves, the brainwaves that you experience while in a relaxed state. (Also if you want to I recomend building a Dreamachine, they're quite the trip)

As for movies, looking at a screen while tripping is like hell in my opinion but if you must, I suggest "Rivers and Tides" by Andy Goldsworthy.

These are the Astrojax.

[MrMerlin]

Originally Posted by morthos

Then theres marbles...and Dr Seuss books...

We need to go on a trip together sir...

[TVCasualty]

I could see making an exception for marbles and astrojax, or silly putty. Hell, why not? They fit in your pocket, easier to haul around, tactile.

MrMerlin's comment also reminded me of the trippiest triptoy in the Universe- someone cute who's tripping too (and likes you a lot)! Words can't begin...

That Chinese art print needs to be on my wall. Very nice...

I also say leave the cellphone in the cabin and walk around without it. Too distracting, and God forbid someone calls you and you reflexively answer it! More likely though is you'll drop it somewhere...

[sobriquet]

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

... I sit in total darkness indoors with no music/candles/TV/anything. Total sensory deprivation, in other words. That is how the hard-edged visions come for me (like the guy on the Harley who drove into my room and gave me a ride to the intersection of God and Truth once). In darkness/silence, all images and feelings come from within, so much so that inner space seems much larger than the wilderness outside. It can be a white-knuckle ride, but that's the intent.

Nice.

Kind of like the isolation tank Lilly invented to use with various entheopharms including ketamine (not that the tank is necessary when you enter the K-hole).

I guess it's all personal but I think this is how I'd do it too. I am lucky enough to have a completely empty room in the house which is simply a contemplation area used for meditation and prayer.

But the ultimate experience in this vein would be a cave. To enter a cave during the dark hours and take a sizable dose would certainly be interesting.

Peace.

[papalion]

Whenever I plan a bunch of gear for a trip.. books, markers, paints, paper, music, etc... I always seem to wander off

I've got to get over the rut of trying to 'force it'

[Xerces]

Originally Posted by Scroto Baggins

(Also if you want to I recomend building a Dreamachine, they're quite the trip)

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I recommend you use the shack with gizmos as the chill out lounge or afterhour, and go tripping in the forest.

Music: Amon Tobin (personal favorite), Brian Eno, MUM (nice).

Bluetech, Orbital, Steve Roach (very nice)

If you really want a trippy audio cd, you MUST download this:
"Timothy Leary - Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out"
its an album.

Hope it helps you out.

Dream machine? I think I missed that tek.

[Scroto Baggins]

Originally Posted by Xerces

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I recommend you use the shack with gizmos as the chill out lounge or afterhour, and go tripping in the forest.

Music: Amon Tobin (personal favorite), Brian Eno, MUM (nice).

Bluetech, Orbital, Steve Roach (very nice)

If you really want a trippy audio cd, you MUST download this:
"Timothy Leary - Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out"
its an album.

Hope it helps you out.

Dream machine? I think I missed that tek.

Yes sir, the Dreamachine. I goofed before and forgot to post the link.

http://www.10111.org/dreamachine/mus...amachine01.mp3 - for the alpha wave frequency track

http://www.10111.org/0.php?wakka=Dreamachine - info and directions on the dreamachine.

Its quite a nice tool to relax with. I'm still working out the kinks in mine.

[Xerces]

It looks more like an epilepsy-machine and it seems either too much work for too little or just another gizmo to sell.

HOWEVER, that brain wave frequency mp3 is WOW, I would like to know more about it. Click here.

[morthos]

Sweet! Thanks for the replies guys!

lyqwyd, I can see that happening outdoors. I do agree with Xerces about starting outside then coming indoors later after some adventuring. With so few people likely to be in the woods it should be really great. For outdoors the most important things Id be packing would be my loaded pipe, water, and more pot! I really dont like carrying much when tripping and hiking-wandering; I like to feel free but reassuringly prepared. That will mean a hip pack with the water bottle plus a few other goodies, maybe edibles. I refuse to have to carry even a water bottle in my hands...why distract from the tripQ. Blankets are sweet, but that would be for the indoor part...unless I could wear it as a caped wandering mushroom hero! lol!

I will enjoy tripping inside when it gets darker and the peak has passed. After a hike Ill be physically relaxed from spending the energy. And Id take the preloaded bong out of the frige...I wouldnt want the ice cubes to melt while I was away!

Scroto Baggins, what do you do with the AstrojaxQ! They look rather curious...are you to simply fidget with them, for tactile facinationQ

I will look into the music tracks...do you know of exact sites for downloadQ Ill try googling, but that can be a pain. Ive no experience downloading music.

Glorious nature pics would be something...

I do have a most excellent girlfriend, but this vacation and trip Im doing alone. Im a loner by nature, but for the last 8 months ive been spending almost all my free time with her. Damn well spent, but a break from everything is good now and then. Plus shes yet to try mushrooms, and with me on a heavy trip I like trip partners to be in a similar state for relating reasons.

I wouldnt have the cell on, it would be off and on a table. I turn it off whenever I smoke pot too...turns out Im not as interested in chatting with my mother about weather and stuff when high...strange.

I dont know if Ill do the pitch black or closed eyes thing, well see. I will take the batteries out of the old wall clock though...I dont like to know the time when tripping, and the ticking bugs me when sober!

The dream machine looks funkatronic! I have to wonder how difficult it is to build, but next time Im in a large city Ill look for a turntable...actually theres one out there as I recall...mwa ha haa!

Now other than the music, Ive just got two Qs left:
1. whether or not to deliberately vomit after it starts to deal with any nausea once and for all
2. whether or not to redose halfway through the trip to make use of the full moon & just keep on partying. Solitude like this is rare, as well as times I would want away from my lady. I have never redosed before.

re: #1
Id say I deal pretty well with the iffy stomach on mush, but a couple times its gotten stuck in my intestines partway through and been uncomfortable for a couple hours. I really would prefer to just get rid of it, even if the trip strength is lessened with it not totally processed. Of course, Id have a toothbrush handy right then...

It does make me wonder if I could walk down the road 200 metres to the trail head though, with the extra endorphins jumping in! Just make it to the trees and youll be safe!

Do you guys have any opinions & tips for thisQ

re: #2
Im not sure Id actually want to, as usually I like to ride the natural flow of things. However right after peaking I always want to get higher and just trip out. I know ones tolerance jumps after eating the first dose, so what would you recommend for a secondQ. Im thinking to have maybe 8g of mine as they are old, and should get a 6g trip on it...Ive been on 7 with these...only strain Ive had in 4 years. Another 6g or soQ.

Thanks a lot guys, lots of help!

[Scroto Baggins]

The Astrojax are a toy that is best described as a mix between yo-yo's and juggling. You sit there and bounce them up and down and go "ohhhhhh ahhhhh."


Also the Dreamachine is not hard to build at all. If you can cut things with an X-acto knife and measure then you should be fine. As I said before they're quite interesting and relaxing.

[TVCasualty]

Fighting nausea just prolongs the discomfort.

Most people hate vomiting, and try anything to avoid it. If the main focus of my attention is on my queasy stomach then I'm not enjoying much of anything, so it's time for the finger-down-the-throat. Once it felt like I was giving birth as I puked during a peak (puking was a profound experience). It was smooooth sailling after the purge. The toothbrush is a handy thing to have afterwards, good idea! Also, I recommend drinking a lot of water as the nausea sets in (IF it sets in) so the stomach acids are diluted somewhat and it's not so horrible when you hurl.

If you re-dose, you'll trip longer, so have some easily-digested carbs handy to counter the blood sugar drop from your brain being on overdrive so long. That, I think, is what causes the tight feeling in the head/ behind the eyes that makes people wish they could stop tripping and go to sleep. A spoonful of honey or some fruit juice makes that feeling go away and the trip remains enjoyable. At least that's been my experience.

Unless it's summer, I always carry an Army surplus wool blanket with me (in a small backpack) because it can feel like shelter (a security blanket!) and my body chills very easily on mushrooms so it greatly aids my comfort. In case something unforeseen happens, it is a shelter (doesn't just feel like one). Being wrapped in a thick wool blanket while tripping under the stars at night in the woods is as good as it gets in my opinion...

I say your foaf will have so much anticipation and anxiety built up, with a high dose he/she wont even think about those material things.
but its nice to have already laid out for the come down. Tell your foaf to have a safe trip and come back to tell us about it in the Storming of the Gates discussion.
Sounds like fun to me.

[oibchip]

IMO making sure that you have plenty of warm dry clothes (extra sets too in case you fall down or piss all over yourself). Fruit juice, water and maybe some beer. Lots of fresh fruit and vegetables to munch on. The rest is just fodder. If I am in the great outdoors. I view "foreign objects" like tv and other man made "attention getters" as more of a nuisance and just a plain pain in the ass. A good chair with cupholders some place to build a nice fire and......O ya A flashlight is important if you are like me and like to trek around in the dark.

hope you have fun!

[Xerces]

wiii y wish i could trek in the dark w/ a flashling and mushrooms =)

You can download music through one of this programs (all free):

eMule
Azureus - This is a torrent downloader program, it doesn't have a search engine, you have to type in google "what_you_are_searching + Torrent" and you'll find a website to download a torrent file. Open the file with Azureus.

Hope it helps.

emule has better diversity of contents and torrents download faster

[morthos]

Ah, so I was pretty much bonking those times before! Damn, it seems so obvious now! Great, Ill carry fruit juice or a pre-cut orange in a baggie when outdoors, and maybe swap the water for gatorade or, well, oj. Sweet! Previously on heavy trips Id take a few ibuprofen halfway through to dodge a headache, but maybe it was a low blood sugar situation. Thanks for this one TVCasualty, just a wee bit important!

I will plan on vomiting then. Pretty hard to be mobile and happy if the stomach is holding me back. I want to elimate the chance of this happening, and especially that of the 'intestinal blocking'.

OK, without running any download or looking into a keyboard macro, I now have my ',",? & / \'s back...weird. Mushroom discussion has cured my computer!

I have found when starting a trip outside I become anti-tech and shoot for simplicity and natural things. When I get back to the shack though, perhaps the bong and lava lamps will change my mind. I will have plenty of clothes availble, as I'm thinking of having the trip a couple days after arriving out there and will have clothes lined up for the whole time without need for doing laundry.

The blanket sounds really nice, like wandering around the woods in a housecoat! I just need to think of a simple way to carry it without a backpack. I've carried flashlights before but seemed averse to using them, preferring to refocus my eyes to the light. Perhaps on one of those anti-tech trips...

Perfect Xerces, thanks! I had just yesterday installed u Torrent to download a Far Side archive, but it was painfully slow...I'll try the Azureus program.

Does anyone have an educated guess as to how a second dose will kick in...half-srength, etc?

Most excellent guys, thanks again!

[Xerces]

Generally if a file download through torrent is slow, it may have to do with the seeds/leechers ratio.

[oibchip]

When I re dose, the rule of thumb for me is to eat about twice my original dose..that is if I want to stay high for another 4-6 hours..It just depends on how I am feeling at the time. As for when I re dose..I like to do it about 1/2 to 2/3rds of the way into the trip..that way I don't get off track..Your mileage may vary though

[Xerces]

What could be the after effects of a re-dose?
More hangover?

[aumbrellaforainydays]

a mushroom hangover? well sometimes i have a buzz that can make sleep very hard, so i like to trip on a day when i dont have to do anything the day after, but if you dont have that luxury why redose? but after a good nights sleep i usually feel 100% fine. alcohol on the other hand...

[morthos]

Thanks Xerces...guess it may help if I learn how to use programs before running them.

Thanks oibchip, that was the concept I was looking for. How I'll convince myself to eat more mush may be another matter, but I've plenty of time to think that through. I'm looking at about 8g of matter (likely weaked due to age remember), so I have to wonder how to ingest 16g while high...any ideas?

My typical methods of ingesting are:
1. grind to powder & eat in spoonfulls, chasing with oj
2. grind to powder, mix in oj
3. grind to powder, mix with liquid honey & eat in spoonfulls
4. crunch up or grind, then go potato chip-dip-mush. (not recommended for over 4g, causes horrible gas!)

(I cannot stand chewing more than 2g)

I suppose given the time available I could order some gelcaps for my machine and make them when I get out there...then the worst is them sticking to your throat.

I've found that with heavy (5~7g) trips I feel generally dumb the next day...I would expect something similar here. Would pretty much be a laze about, smoke, and reflect on the trip day. Probably watch whatever I didn't during the trip.

How do you guys eat large quantities?

[Xerces]

I dont have a lot of experience with shrooms but are you sure about that 16g? Maybe they didn't loose much potency at all... Maybe you could do a test drive with 0.5g or 1g just to test the potency.