time in between trips. please help!

[shroomtastic]

hey my buddy and i took some mushrooms tuesday night! 2.7 grams each. we wanted to test the strength before we gave some to my friend for his 1st time sunday!!! . now i am reading that people say to wait 2 weeks in between trips!! shit did we mess up? will we not trip now and he will? do we need to take more? i was great off 2.7 grams and it was the 1st time i tripped in like a year. can we take some sunday now? or did we screw ourselves! this sucks man i thought i read somewhere u had to wait about 48 hours or so between trips. we were planning on taking 4 grams or so and giving my buddy 3.5 grams. will this work still?

[bb4]

i think you will be flying if you eat 4 grams. i've never had a problem eating 2 gs or so after just 24-36 hours. only one way to know for sure.

-bb4

[shroomtastic]

haha good to kno! we just wanted to feel it hard because its my one friends 1st time and hes getting 3.5 and we figured 3.5 would be good until we read u need to take 2 weeks or so off. we figured 4g's would work better then lol. hope it works good. thx for helping me out. let u know if it works

[InsidiousDecrepancy]

3.5 for your buddies first time seems a little steep. I did 2, 2.5 gram trips, then decided I could handle 4, boy was I wrong. I would say 2-2.5 is a solid choice.

[shroomtastic]

i did feel pretty good off of 2.7 . but just wanted him to feel the same as us. maybe 3.0 grams will work. i am making a few cd's for us. i got pink floyd and ozzie and lynard skynard. i also got some doors. trying to mix it up with some good music

[papalion]

3.5g my first time required a lot of mental fluidity. It was a great time, but it wasnt all fun or easy. Enjoyment? Probably less is needed

[Mermaidia]

I agree, 2.0-2.5 for a first trip is plenty. That is all I still take. This being said as long as your friend is not currently taking any SSRI's or other anti-depressant/ anxiety medication.
You want him to enjoy it, not scare the hell out of him.

Of course that is just my opinion. As some people require much more than I do to "trip". There are some that say they need to double that just to feel anything.
But my best advice is to err on the side of caution. Sometimes a little goes a long way.

Good Luck and be safe!
Merm

[myco-curious]

Originally Posted by InsidiousDecrepancy

3.5 for your buddies first time seems a little steep.

I did 3.5g on my first trip but i broke it up into a 2.0g dose and then an hour later another 1.5g dose. I will say that trying to watch Labyrinth on your first trip will scare you witless if you start going "negative" right about the same time the "warning stones" scene comes on.... lol

Hey about musical selections...I'd recommend Sphongle if you can get your hands on it. It's music literally designed for tripping.

[bugs]

Interesting to read the different dosages people use. Of course trip strength is really subjective, I'm suspecting that body size has a bunch to do with it. Us really big folks probably need more. I like four or five grams for a decent fun trip. And it will do the job after a week (soonest I usually voyage). Can't speak for sooner but Tuesday to Sunday should be good.

Hmm. Maybe a poll. Grams per kilogram for entry level, fun, and oh-my-God trips. Gotta think about it.

Whoops. Off topic. Sorry. Anyway, dude, the trip will be fine. No worries.

[shroomtastic]

thx

[Kevin]

Err on the side of saftey. He can always have another go. Brains can get fucked up. 4 hours of fun is not worth a fucked up brain. Ask any mental instution patient

I would go 2grams, then another 1 gram in another hour if he thinks he can handle it.

If ya wanna trip on the same level as your friend, do the same amounts, for his sake.

[shroomtastic]

heres my problem. everyone says i will have some slight tolerance since i took some tuesday. no way in hell am i gonna only take 2 grams or so if i already took 2.7. i will have to at least take 3 or 3.5 to feel how i did off of 2.7 prolly. also i like to eat my mushies all at once not lil by little. plus i think we mentally prepared him for this and if i took 2.7 and felt pretty good how can 3 grams be too much for him? my first trips were always 3.5g's. mind u i wasn't wiggin out completely off 2.7, although i felt it pretty damn good but the walls didn't expand or trees didn't talk.lol i already told him how powerful mushrooms are and how u should respect there power and told him how u feel off um and my past experiences. i told him if u don't like the feeling too bad u still got 5 hours of not liking it left to go. i also looked on here for good calm music and made a few cd's plus we have the wilderness. i am sure he will like it. if not he will not take um again.

[InsidiousDecrepancy]

Yeah, the problem is that there are 2 aspects to tripping. There's the visuals, and then the thoughts. My first 2 trips I had majorly only visual changes, which I loved and wanted more of. I never experienced any loss of ego, and there is no way you can prepare for loss of ego, because it is unlike anyhting I have ever experienced in my life. Loss of ego is the scary part. Coping with the existence of nothing.

[shroomtastic]

thats deep and confusing brother. hopefully we won't lose our egos? i don't kno what that means tho? to me tripping is fun if u respect it and plan it. it could go bad i guess but we try to take steps to prevent that

[Mermaidia]

You can take all the steps to ensure a "happy" trip. But sometimes things do not go as planned. Sounds to me like you already your mind made up as to how much he will dose. Have you asked him what his thoughts are about the dose and what he feels comfortable with?

Those that are telling you to err on the side of caution are expressing concern for your friends well being. I know from experience that things can go bad very quickly, no matter how well you have planned.

There is no need to defend you stance on this. You asked for advice and we spoke from experience.
I think it is best for your friend to decide how much he or she will take.
Give them the info. Let them know that each mushroom vaires in potency and even though you only take 2.0g you may have very potent or very weak shrooms. . .
Educate them on all the aspects of tripping and most of all educate them on how to survive a "bad" trip.

Best of Luck,
Merm

BTW, I think that you should be fine with tripping on Sunday.

[drtask]

alright, i agree with most of you, 2g dry for a first timer will get their feet wet and keep them lovin the experience. i think there has to be a way to figure this out. i figure you take your body weight, convert it into (kilo)grams, and somehow figure out how to see what one gram of mushrooms = in body weight. then you could just divide your weight by that number, and figure out the perfect dose. back to scheduled programming.

p.s. anyone up to make a chart for like different body weights to what "level" trip you want? i'd be willing to help with that, except i've never had more than say a level 3 trip

[Mermaidia]

I just realized that somehow we got off topic. You question was the time between trips, not about your friends trip.
I apologize for being off topic.

[bugs]

Clarification - My first shroom tip (after many years of abstinance) was 1 g. to check out what the experience was like at this time in my life. Then I increased gradually to find the 'right' level, i.e. an amount that is adequate on weak shrooms but (so far at least) not over the top on strong ones.
Don' get too worried about how 'strong' or 'weak' the trip is going to be. Just let it be what it is and open yourself up to it, without expectations. If you try to force it, to bull through to some particular goal, you may miss some subtle and beautiful side roads.

5 days is plenty of time to wait IME
dont worry about it

as for your friend id give him a gram every hour on the hour

[Doctor D]

Originally Posted by shroomtastic

now i am reading that people say to wait 2 weeks in between trips!! shit did we mess up? will we not trip now and he will?

You will trip fine (if you haven't done so already), especially if Tuesday's trip was the first you've had in a year or so.

In my experience, I have found that the more I trip, the more tolerance I build up, and the longer it takes to reduce that tolerance. I've been tripping every 2 to 3 weeks for about 8 months, and my trips are nowhere near as "multidimensional" as they once where. I still trip well, but I don't hallucinate in as many different ways as I used to. The longer I go between trips, say a month or more, and my trips start to get "better". But if I start shortening the interval, I lose certain dimensions to my trips.

I'm not sure how long exactly I would have to go without shrooming before I would have a trip close to the trips I used to have before I began shrooming regularly. I suspect several months, at least.

All that said, it only takes a couple days to a week before I can have a decent trip again. Just keep in mind that if you continue to trip that frequently for a prolonged period of time, your trips will start losing some qualities. (For instance - I can't remember the last time I saw geometric kaleidoscope patterns. I used to get them a lot when I first tripped, now I don't.)

[Doctor D]

I think what Hippie said in this thread was right on the money.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthre...ight=tolerance (Supermassive dosing)

Originally Posted by Hippie3

takes me almost a full month to lose all acquired tolerance,
it's kind of a curve if you graph it out,
tolerance drops sharply after a week but there is still
residual tolerance that reduces the trip well after.

[shroomtastic]

thx guys for all the info. I have considered my friend the whole time and asked him what he would want to take and he is reading all these posts with me right now. he decided on 3 grams for him and 3.5 or 4 for us. we will let u know tommorow how it all turns out because we r tommorow is the day! hes read past experiences and good and bad and nothing more can prepare him for this that to just takein um and getting it over with. whatever he feels like. and we will help him through it.

[InsidiousDecrepancy]

Good Luck to you man!! I hope it's a good time. Should be a pleasent experience for you.

[shroomtastic]

awesome guys! ok here was the deal. me and my dude had 3.5 each and my 1st timer buddy had 3 . lets just say we had a blast! we went to the woods and it was snowing. we tripped very hard! lots of visuals and hard body buzz. the snow flakes were awesome! i seen this squirrel look at us and run away. i swear i could feel him think we were nuts lol. we were rambling on like retards and we listened to pink floyd and grateful dead and the doors! it was great except for one pink floyd song that made us feel down and sad. we were tripping so hard we almost was like this is way to hard lol. itbwas freakin fun as hell. i had to stay sitting because if i stood up i felt out of place and my buddy had to stand and he just kept standing. i swear he was gonna grow roots and branches lol. another crazy thing was when the sad song came on we had to change it and the song after that was grateful deads touch of grey! it made us feel so much better we was like wish this was on repeat and then for some reason it was!!! and it played over and over lol. i will get by. i will survive. lol. thnx guys!!! it was the best!

[InsidiousDecrepancy]

I'm glad to hear you had a good time , I hope to be tripping outdoors this wednesday. I just may pop in some flloyd and some doors as well haha.

[cambo666]

I've tripped everyday for weeks at a time. I dont measure my doses but the biggest thing I've noticed that effects the strength of a dose is eating. DONT EAT ANYTHING for 2 hours before you dose. The less food you eat during and around a trip the better. This is my observation.

i never trip a day in a row.. the second one never gives me anything but a 'weakened' body and very very very little visuals.. even if i double the dose.. i normally wait a week for another trip or at least 4 days.. and i dont eat 4-5 hours before or just skip a meal.. and chew well or make it chocolates or tea.. chewing is important in my experience.. swallowing it in gulps doesnt do anything for me..

[oibchip]

5 days between trips..when your last trip was over a year ago is plenty of time man ..don't worry about it