20 grams dry Amanita muscaria; non-trip report

[OffTheRocker]

so yesterday I got really bored and decided to eat some Amanita muscaria that I bought from an online vendor. These were allegedly of the Siberian kind. I ate right at 20 grams, and I realize that this might seem a little extreme, but from all the reports I read, this dose seemed to be enough for me to get an "experience", especially for the first time from these mushrooms. I just chewed the mushroom caps one after another until they were all gone. Here's how it went.


At 1 hour after ingestion there were no noticeable effects.

At 2 hours after ingestion I was sweating a little and began to get sort of cold feeling. A little gas, nothing more.

At 3 hours after ingestion I was sweating buckets (changed my soaked clothes twice during this hour) and was really really cold, so cold that I was shivering and I could see my breath when I exhaled in my warm home. More gas, nothing more.

At 4 hours after ingestion I was still sweating more and more, slight gritting of my teeth, still freezing like crazy, so I took a hot shower as hot as it would go. Changed clothes once more. There was a feeling of weightlessness when I closed my eyes and slight trouble balancing, but when my eyes were open I was fine. Nothing more.

From the 5th to the 6th hour after ingestion I went for a walk, smoked a joint of some killer bud that I had manicured only two days before. After smoking, I noticed a slight feeling of a heavy head, like so heavy that whichever way my head leaned my body went that direction. Very weird feeling indeed. Minor aches and pains were noticed in my back just below my neck. During this time I began to feel like I had come down from an awesome trip of some sort, ya know the drained kinda stupor feeling, but I couldn't figure out why because I didn't have any experience whatsoever, but I was feeling like I had just been through hell and back. No other effects.

From the 7th hour on to the 10th hour after ingestion, I slept, deeply for about hour intervals. I would wake up every hour and feel like I had been sleeping for days. I felt very drained and tired even upon awakening though, from a sleep that was so restful. No dreams, no visions, no nothing.

After all that I felt "normal" again.

All in all, my opinion of Amanita muscaria is that it is just a poisonous mushroom, that is only interesting for its aesthetic beauty and not for it's trip. I was really scared when I couldn't quit sweating or freezing no matter how many layers of clothes I had on, and I one point I even thought of going to the hospital, but I didn't. The hot, hot shower got my body temp almost back to normal, and after that the sweating and freezing pretty much ceased. I am very disappointed in this, especially for the all the "good" things I have read about this species and its effects, but I don't think this one is for me. I don't plan on trying it again, anytime soon anyway.

Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this from Amanita? I'm just wondering if the mushrooms were incorrectly identified, or if it was just that my body was immune to any of the psychadelic properties. Any and all comments/questions very welcome.

Peace.

[oibchip]

I tried amanita one time from an online vendor in Washington..I had a similiar experience(didn't think I needed hospitilisation) but coupled with a stomach ache. I doubt I will eat them again ever. I have heard that one must ingest his/her own urine in order to get high from amanita. I guess the body metabolizes the active chemicals really fast and expels them through the urine. Not for me though..I'll stick with the pscily shrooms.

[MrMycelium]

I tried some fresh ones in Caly on vacation one year. had the same problem as
you, and i pucked until i had nothing but blood left. Messed up my hole week.

Only Pans or Cubies for me. Cept in the spring, got to have some woodlovers

[warriorsoul]

You want to heat your Amanita Muscaria to about 190 degrees for 15 minutes to convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
Ibotenic acid is bad.
Muscimol is good.
There is also muscarine, that can make you sweat.

Best way is to powder them and then simmer for 15 min.

[Hippie3]

very typical amanita experience.
now you know why they are still legal.

[little white rabbit]

like warriorsoul said: preparing them right is really important! drying at 190 degrees works fine.
i got me about 300g dry this year and after drying i made a powder out of it to have a masse without variations in muscimol content.

i didn't try them yet, just had to much to do last months to do first tests, but i gave about 100g to a friend who tried them some times before and he said they were prepared fine. i think i'm going to do a first test in the next two weeks.

[OffTheRocker]

Well, warriorsoul and LWR, thanks for the tip! I figured preparation was part of the problem. Is there a noticeable difference from my previous symptoms?

Hippie3
very typical amanita experience.
now you know why they are still legal.

so nochalant! LOL

Oibchip, I heard about the urine thing too, not for me either! I'm not that desparate.
MrMycelium, I ate before I ingested them and I thin that is why I had such bad gas, but had I not ate I think I would have been in the same state. My farts hurt like hell!

thanx for the responses.

[Fresh Brewed]

Were they heated...by you? From what I've read it is a critical part of the experience. I haven't and wont be trying them myself, but with a substance so overflowing with warnings from experienced people, I would think it best to follow established teks to a tee.

[Hippie3]

cf. http://forums.mycotopia.net/192504-post59.html (Amanita Muscaria: one seeker's observations [merged])

[OffTheRocker]

I skimmed over that, but never read fully and comprehensibly.

Thanx. Peace.

[ShroomGuerilla]

Originally Posted by oibchip

I tried amanita one time from an online vendor in Washington..I had a similiar experience(didn't think I needed hospitilisation) but coupled with a stomach ache. I doubt I will eat them again ever. I have heard that one must ingest his/her own urine in order to get high from amanita. I guess the body metabolizes the active chemicals really fast and expels them through the urine. Not for me though..I'll stick with the pscily shrooms.

whaat???

[Swan]

I found Bonzias' article highly informative(no pun intended).And as one who is seeking the proper catalyst to experience " * * * " .I take what was said about the Shamanic way of harvesting very serious.This is one of the most ancient of plants and demands to be respected.
When i have prepared myself for the experience ,i will take heed as to what was written by Bonzia ,and proceed accordingly.

[Hippie3]

it's not a plant mang.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

it's not a plant mang.

my bad...

Fungi

[NEPHROSIS]

I think the whole deal with amanita is the preparation, I don't think you have to bake it in the oven...if you make tea, at sufficient heat (not high enough to ruin) it should be alright.

I dunno though, when I tried it I didn't have the typical experience...mine was pretty gentle and laid back and I'd like to try it again sometime.

edit - now that I think about it, I actually found this site looking for info on amanita...I got linked to that awesome thread by BB.

[cleanjar]

yes twenty grams of that mushroom is too much

nobody has fun eating that much of that mushroom

i would stick to low and moderate dosages

a quarter ounce dried is what i would recommend

most reports of people eating muscaria fresh they get sick