different strains-different visions

[felnik]

The simple version of my theory is that geographic origin of the mushroom
can influence the experience. I've read many people say that cubensis is cubensis but my own extremely varied experiences tells me otherwise.
This theory hinges on the truthfulness of the variuos vendors whom I do trust.
I am not experienced enough to accurately determine the actual origin of a
strain as of yet. So I guess this is strictly conjecture.

My first comparison is
South American strains vrs. southeast Asian strains.

EQ, PR, resulted in a mellow very relaxed almost out of body mystical experience with Aztec and Mayan archetype visions and patterns very distinct. Insects made of light on a black backround were also reported by
another person during the same experience. The usual connection to the earth nature was also there. Pine trees looked like blood vessels pulsating with life and circulating fluid to the heart of the earth......

KSS,BPK, Cam: totally different, seemed stronger. This was not a full blown
dose as of yet but preliminary experience showed a huge difference in experience. taken at night laying in dark room. The visions were some of the weirdest things i think I have ever seen. Closed eyes, alien organic cities
plasma towers spiralling into infinity. Shapes textures and colors I have never seen before anywhere. A procession of a jesus-like entity with crowds around all climbing a mystical ceremonial stairway up and up. The jesus figure was morphing slowly into an organic root-like tree -thing where at the top of a temple it began to blend itself into another organic entity in a sort of breeding blending morphing freeky sci-fi episode. Like a microscopic view of and insect penis- appendage becoming one with another of its kind.
these were all eyes closed visions.

In short:

I'd be curious to see others experiences with different strains from different parts of the world

[raveneye]

Mmmmmmm. I have often wondered the same thing. I cannot say for sure what seems to make each type and the coinciding visions diff.
I think we can all agree that each strain has its own characteristics but grouping similarities to geography, hard to say. I believe for sure that some of the visual patterns can be related to the art work the natives in the area came up with, but I believe this has some to do with the local vibes that the plant or strain absorb. You body seems to do the same thing. I've done azures from PNW coast on the beach in Yucatan and seen all those weird Mayan faces in all the coral rocks around me, acid in the rain forrest in SE Alaska and seen everthing turn into those strange NW native pictographs, Peyote and San Pedro certianly make all the geometry the SW natives have in their art come alive. Snakes and jungles on Aya. But then I have sat in my livingroom on Azures and strummed a guitar and seen what looked like ancient chinese cities appear with every strum and fade away as the vibrations die. Mind is a strange thing.???????

[oibchip]

The only way to test this theory would be to do a blind or even double blind experiment. If one knows the origins of the mushrooms that they are eating they will automatically (consciously or subconsciously) have a certain mindset when going into the trip. One would think that it is the culture of that region as perceived by the test subject that would be the basis for the type of visions.

[Nzo]

a blind study would be a good way to test this theory.
I've noticed that some have different effects..like some are more visual
or more body high than others, ive heard PBK is really body high,
and EQ and OI are visual and body high
but this is what i experienced..everyone is different and has a different brain.

[Nzo]

btw felnik what strain is in your avatar? lemme guess..Ecuador? or GT?

[twoguysupnorth]

that may be true for somebody who expects something from a certain strain, but coming from somebody who doesnt/didnt know where the acid/shrooms were grown or made, the very same trips have a completely different effect (even being the same thing) in different places with different people. IMHO i believe it is an enviroment thing as much as it is what it is kind of thing. if that makes any scence.

[bugs]

I think I'd agree with the environment (including mindset at the time) being the main determinant of trip content. Even so, being of a moderately mystical nature, I don't completely discount the possibility of some other more suble factors.

[Hella_Dood]

IME there must be a difference in strains or SOMETHING. I remember in my youth I got ahold of a half of these particular 'bensis. I have never had as cool of visuals before or since. It was consistant on three trips. I have gotten way higher on mushrooms and never been able to replicate THOSE results. These mushrooms had visuals as intense as 3-5 hits of L but way cooler. If mushrooms did that to me all the time I'd never stop eating them, I'd be constantly zoomed. I should mention that mushrooms aren't particularly visual for me even at 4 grams.

[OffTheRocker]

There are so many factors that effect the trip that it is hard to pin it down to the strain origin itself, as most are homegrown, away from their place of origin and in differing environments to boot.

But, I still believe that in some profound way, each strain does have its very own perception of things, and each has a unified, but strangely uniquely individual spirit and way of conveying its message.

BHTs and KS and KSSS have been the most euphoric and visually spectacular with like seeing everything in pitch black with eyes closed just as if my eyes were open. Watching clouds make tye-dye patterns in the sky, and everything looked like it was so much clearer and was not wavy or blury or anything. Just amazing, like having celestial eagle eyes! all IME

Whereas EQ scared the hell out of me everytime, very paranoid feeling and like I was a madman; Like lunatics on the grass, crazy!

Palenques were so weak to me, but very ego boosting not destroying of it. Lots of CEV and peculiar drunken feeling.

PRs make me feel poisoned and stupid and funny, with things always catching me off guard, like the visuals just sneak up on me. Very strong body high and mixing of senses. Also kinda speedy feeling like cid.

Orissa India are so powerful for me and make me feel heavy, so heavy I don't move, keep my eyes closed and just drift off into that other world, like outside of me and who I am. These have always provided the ultimate self-discovery, transcendance, and spiritual awakening trips for me. Not varying much in intensity from dose to dose, but duration varied significantly from gram to gram increases.

All of that in my opinion and in my own experiments with those strains. Some other strains not mentioned that I have done are hard to give an opinion on as I haven't done extensive research with them.

I'm stoned and wanted to share. Sorry.
Peace.

[coastalite]

Originally Posted by OffTheRocker

There are so many factors that effect the trip that it is hard to pin it down to the strain origin itself, as most are homegrown, away from their place of origin and in differing environments to boot.

But, I still believe that in some profound way, each strain does have its very own perception of things, and each has a unified, but strangely uniquely individual spirit and way of conveying its message.

BHTs and KS and KSSS have been the most euphoric and visually spectacular with like seeing everything in pitch black with eyes closed just as if my eyes were open. Watching clouds make tye-dye patterns in the sky, and everything looked like it was so much clearer and was not wavy or blury or anything. Just amazing, like having celestial eagle eyes! all IME

Whereas EQ scared the hell out of me everytime, very paranoid feeling and like I was a madman; Like lunatics on the grass, crazy!

Palenques were so weak to me, but very ego boosting not destroying of it. Lots of CEV and peculiar drunken feeling.

PRs make me feel poisoned and stupid and funny, with things always catching me off guard, like the visuals just sneak up on me. Very strong body high and mixing of senses. Also kinda speedy feeling like cid.

Orissa India are so powerful for me and make me feel heavy, so heavy I don't move, keep my eyes closed and just drift off into that other world, like outside of me and who I am. These have always provided the ultimate self-discovery, transcendance, and spiritual awakening trips for me. Not varying much in intensity from dose to dose, but duration varied significantly from gram to gram increases.

All of that in my opinion and in my own experiments with those strains. Some other strains not mentioned that I have done are hard to give an opinion on as I haven't done extensive research with them.

I'm stoned and wanted to share. Sorry.
Peace.

no, that was great. thank you for sharing. i've been wanting to try some of those you mentioned.

i usually just mix different strains of cubies together and then consume them and see what happens. my latest experiment was mixing PR, Amazon, SA, and PFC together. ground them up and capsuled them. it was pretty amazing. long clean trip, no anxiety, gradual build-up, awesome c.e.v.'s. my buddy claimed it was the best he'd ever done.

mixed up the same 4 strains and ground them up and put them in honey and then dosed and guess what - i had amazing closed eye visuals of honeycomb patterns.

i'm looking for that euphoric high you mentioned. that's happened a couple of times before but not sure what strain or combination of strains it was. it's the best feeling... almost like narcotics.