what conditions caused this?

[Pranaman]

So the palenques swim's tried, they were really clean feeling and really really colorful, his mind was clear.

The ecuadors were really blurry and really bright and moving patterns. Very intense thinkers.

The gold caps were very bright with lots of movement. High dose gold caps showed gaps in the veil of illusion and the starry space behind it, and faces, and involved many realizations.

The thai's showed everything as tubular looking, and very bloated, colorful moving.

Where can I learn why these particular effects were what they were(strain, grow conditions), and how to replicate them?

[Mr. Clean]

imagination.

[spacecake]

You can't replicate them.
There are slight differeces in cubie strains,but it depends on the person self.
Species however can be much different compared to each other,like the Semilanceata specie,who give a much different trip then Cubies imo.

Growing conditions don't matter...

[hungryjim]

years ago a buddy and I tried logging our results from diffrnt strains and doses, all grown pf tek. at best, all i can say is that the results were very subjective. same jet, same fuel, but every flight was different.----enjoy!

[Pranaman]

well swim remembers these ecuadorians.... the higher percentile, the majority of the people that got them said that the shrooms showed them the way, he'd get texts from people he didn't know, saying 'thank you for showing me god' and many other comments about how those particular shrooms all from same strain and grower, blessed them. swim agreed, they were very entheogenic and unique. Possibly all the people's imaginations who received the sacrament were tied by the good energy interconnecting them, the grower, the sacrament, and all their experiences...

[spacecake]

I "talked" to 'god'' on lsd,weed,shrooms and dmt,it's an intrument and will all work with the right setting mindset and dosing.
Don't need a special strain for that.

[BuckarooBanzai]

Set, setting and placebo effect are, I think, responsible for most of it. You can call it by many names and still be discussing the same thing. A "shaman" refers to energy/guides/faith, a "scientist" refers to set/setting/placebo effect.

Same thing, different names.

When you tell somebody they are going to eat something special/different, it can have a HUGE impact on the experience.

Let a batch go long, so they drop all their spores and most of the fungi turn black. Tell folks they are really special - to be really careful with them.

Folks will wig like there is no tomorrow...

[Pranaman]

Originally Posted by BuckarooBanzai

Set, setting and placebo effect are, I think, responsible for most of it. You can call it by many names and still be discussing the same thing. A "shaman" refers to energy/guides/faith, a "scientist" refers to set/setting/placebo effect.

Same thing, different names.

When you tell somebody they are going to eat something special/different, it can have a HUGE impact on the experience.

Let a batch go long, so they drop all their spores and most of the fungi turn black. Tell folks they are really special - to be really careful with them.

Folks will wig like there is no tomorrow...

you all are more experienced than swim so he believes you. He just thinks it's coincidental that all these people had a similar 'divine' experience, without being told anything but these are shrooms, and none of them knowing eachother.

SWIM is also a big believer in the energetic model of the universe. But that is for another post...

[Hippie3]

He just thinks it's coincidental that all these people had a similar 'divine' experience, without being told anything but these are shrooms

they all share the same nervous system architecture
and the same cultural expectations
so not that surprising at all imo .

valiums have pretty similar effects on everyone,
psilocybin does too.

similar drug in similar lifeforms = similar experiences