DMT????

[transcend76]

I recently experienced DMT, i had heard about it but had no idea as to the amount of power it withheld, It took me to a place of Knowledge somewhere beyond the limitsof this world. Noone could have prepared me for this , though i had many people try..After the main trip i entered a state of Euphoriasm which lasted 2-3 hours . I didnt
Believe yet i was completely convinced,I was lost yet right where i needed to be, I was here yet very gone. I feltlike i was put through a rebirth process. literally broken down and put together as new. I had gained new knowledge, and had better understanding of life.


It would be intresting to hear about youll's experiences

[firerat]

What was you dose? How did you take it? How long did it last?

SWIM is kid of interested himself in trying.

[transcend76]

iI smoked 50 mg of it. THe initial trip wasnt all that long like 7 minutes for me, but the aftereffects lasted longer!
have you ever tried?

[firerat]

SWIM has never tried but probably will eventually.

[transcend76]

you defintly should!
its life-changing!

[mushroommaster7]

that sounds really interesting... the spiritual molecule or so they say...

i wonder if dmt could do harm to your brain?

[Hailee]

Originally Posted by mushroommaster7

that sounds really interesting... the spiritual molecule or so they say...

i wonder if dmt could do harm to your brain?

well dmt has been found natural occurring in blood from th brain already, and it is naturally in many mamals, reptiles, and plants. the argument is if it is produced by the pineal gland or not. it is most certainly produced in the pineal gland, however since there is no conclusive scientific evidence, some people refuse to accept the idea. it is not fact.


BTW: to anyone looking to do an extraction-

the marsofold tek (a/b extraction, freezer precip) is nearly a thing of the past. a much easier tek that has been proven to have a higher yeild, and a much shorter amount of time is the STB(straight to base) tek.

[slipp3ry]

when i think 'euphoria' i think MDMA, i think opiates, valium, etc.. i think warm and good feeling. DMT does not give me this. When i come off it, i sometimes laugh, and feel giddy, but it is because i just went on a rollercoaster in my mind. It is not because i 'feel' good. The after effect of DMT , in my experience, lasts about 15 minutes , when smoking about 50-100mg, and then i feel absolutely normal like nothing happened at all. But it could just be a personal body chemistry thing.

[slipp3ry]

Originally Posted by Hailee

well dmt has been found natural occurring in blood from th brain already, and it is naturally in many mamals, reptiles, and plants. the argument is if it is produced by the pineal gland or not. it is most certainly produced in the pineal gland, however since there is no conclusive scientific evidence, some people refuse to accept the idea. it is not fact.


BTW: to anyone looking to do an extraction-

the marsofold tek (a/b extraction, freezer precip) is nearly a thing of the past. a much easier tek that has been proven to have a higher yeild, and a much shorter amount of time is the STB(straight to base) tek.

yes i agree with this, having just done both, the Straight to base was much easier and faster, and produced the same yield if not better than the A/B. Look in the vaults and look for the 'easy, quick, spice tek using quart jars' that was written by loochypooch. That is the simplest and best way.

[Arbol]

Originally Posted by Hailee

well dmt has been found natural occurring in blood from th brain already, and it is naturally in many mamals, reptiles, and plants. the argument is if it is produced by the pineal gland or not. it is most certainly produced in the pineal gland

How untrue, even Dr. Rick Strassman who made up that hypothesis states that it is not true. On pg 79 of Dr Strassman's "the Spirit Molecule" he make this fact known clearly.
There is NO scientific evidence that DMT exist in the human body anywhere.

You should get you facts straight before passing around untruths. The pineal gland produces hormones that stop hallucinations. There is no DMT in the pineal gland, the hormone produced in the pineal gland destroys DMT as stated by Dr Rick Strassman research.
Everything else on the internet is false and untrue. No scientist no where has ever found DMT in the human body, fetus, pineal gland or spinal column.
This is fact and scientific truth.
Everything else is pure speculation.

[wildburr]

Dimethyltryptamine (DMT), also known as N,N-dimethyltryptamine, is a naturally occurring tryptamine and potent psychedelic drug, found not only in many plants, but also in trace amounts in the human body wherein its natural function is undetermined. Structurally, it is analogous to the neurotransmitter serotonin and other psychedelic tryptamines such as 5-MeO-DMT and 4-HO-DMT. DMT is created in small amounts by the human body during normal metabolism[1] by the enzyme tryptamine-N-methyltransferase. Many cultures, indigenous and modern, ingest DMT as a psychedelic in extracted or synthesized forms. Pure DMT at room temperature is a clear or white to yellowish-red crystalline solid. DMT was first chemically synthesized in 1931.[2]

From Erowid
From 1990 to 1995 Dr. Rick Strassman conducted DEA-approved clinical research at the University of New Mexico in which he injected sixty volunteers with DMT, one of the most powerful psychedelics known. His detailed account of those sessions is an extra-ordinarily riveting inquiry into the nature of the human mind and the therapeutic potential of psychedelics. DMT, a plant-derived chemical that is also manufactured by the human brain, consistently produced near-death and mystical experiences. Many volunteers reported convincing encounters with intelligent nonhuman presences, especially "aliens." Nearly all felt that the sessions were among the most profound experiences of their lives.

Strassman's research connects DMT with the pineal gland, considered by Hindus to be the site of the seventh chakra and by René Descartes to be the seat of the soul. DMT: The Spirit Molecule makes the bold case that DMT, naturally released by the pineal gland, facilitates the soul's movement in and out of the body and is an integral part of the birth and death experiences, as well as the highest states of meditation and even sexual transcendence. Strassman also believes that alien abduction experiences are brought on by accidental releases of DMT. If used wisely, DMT could trigger a period of remarkable progress in the scientific exploration of the most mystical regions of the human mind and soul.

[Hailee]

Originally Posted by Arbol

You should get you facts straight before passing around untruths. The pineal gland produces hormones that stop hallucinations. There is no DMT in the pineal gland, the hormone produced in the pineal gland destroys DMT as stated by Dr Rick Strassman research.
Everything else on the internet is false and untrue. No scientist no where has ever found DMT in the human body, fetus, pineal gland or spinal column.
This is fact and scientific truth.
Everything else is pure speculation.

i think you should take a bit of your own advice. there is a lot of misinformation out there about drugs already. the last thing we need is for more people like you to go around spreading false statements.

pg 79? well first here is Strassman's book, "The Spirit Molecule" which you are basing your claim from. Please read pg. 63:
http://dmt-nexus.com/doc/DMT-The-spi....Strassman.pdf


If you or your University has access to PUBMED you can get most of the articles below:

http://dmt-nexus.com/doc/endogenous%...ytic%20DMT.pdf
^^^

In a short half-page report
in Nature, Franzen and Gross [8] reported the presence
of N,N-dimethyltryptamine in human blood
(8 · 109 g/mL) and urine (4 · 105 g/24 h).
Subsequent research found these levels to be too
high and that the average concentrations in normal
subjects tended to be around 5 · 1010 g/mL in
blood [12] and 4 · 107 g/24 h in urine [23]. (It
should be noted that the threshold dose to produce
subjective effects in humans is about 5 · 105
g/kg, which leads to peak blood concentrations
of 1 · 108 g/mL [18,24]). After Franzen and
Gross’ discovery, psychiatric researchers reported
increases in the urinary excretion of DMT in schizophrenic
patients [12–15]. Murray et al. [11] found
a statistically significant increase in the levels of
DMT in the urine of schizophrenics (1 · 106 g/
24 h), but found that not all schizophrenic patients
excreted increased amounts of DMT. The authors
concluded that DMT did not play a causal role in
schizophrenia, but could be an intermediary factor,
exacerbating certain features of psychosis.
Other research proved inconclusive and results between
studies were often contradictory with either
no correlation between schizophrenia and excreted
DMT, or no statistically significant difference

Barker SA, Monti JA and Christian ST (1981). N,N-Dimethyltryptamine: An endogenous hallucinogen. In International Review of Neurobiology, vol 22, pp. 83-110; Academic Press, Inc.

DMT is present not only in humans but certain mammals.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/....shtml#mammals
^^^

PRESENCE IN MAMMALS

Biogenesis of 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine in human pineal gland. by Guchhait RB.
J Neurochem, 1976;26:187-90.


Tryptamine-N-methyltransferase activity in brain tissue: a re-examination. by Boarder MR, Rodnight R.
Brain Res, 1976;114:359-64.


Enzymatic N-methylation of indoleamines by mammalian brain: Fact or artefact? by Gomes UR, Neethling AC, Shanley BC.
J Neurochem, 1976;27:701-5.


Improved selective ion monitoring mass-spectrometric assay for determination of N,N-dimethyltryptamine in human blood utilizing capillary column gas chromatography. by Walker RW, Mandel LR, Kleinman JE, Gillin JC, Wyatt RJ, Vandenheuvel WJA.
J Chromatogr, Biomed Appl, 1979;162:539-46.


Tryptamine, N,N-dimethyltryptamine,N,N-dimethyl-5-hydroxytryptamine and 5-methoxytryptamine in human blood and urine. by Franzen F, Gross H.
Nature 1965;206:1052.


Psychotomimetic N-methylated tryptamines: Formation in brain in vivo and in vitro. by Saavedra JM, Axelrod J.
Science 1972;175:1365-6.


Increased excretion of dimethyltryptamine and certain features of psychosis. A possible association. by Murray RM, Oon MCH, Rodnight R, Birley JLT, Smith A.
Arch Gen Psychiatry, 1979;36:644-9.


A dimethyltryptamine-forming enzyme in human blood. by Wyatt RJ, Saavedra JM, Axelrod J.
Am J Psychiatry 1973;130:754-60.


N,N-Dimethyltryptamine: An endogenous hallucinogen. by Barker SA, Monti JA, Christian ST.
Int Rev Neurobiol 1981;22:83-110.


Gas chromatographic-mass spectrometric isotope dilution determination of N,N-dimethyltryptamine concentrations in normals and psychiatric patients. by Wyatt RJ, Mandel LR, Ahn HS, Walker RW, Vandenheuvel WJA.
Psychopharmacology, 1973;31:265-70.


Blood dimethyltryptamine concentrations in psychotic disorders. by Lipinski JF, Mandel LR, Ahn HS, Vandenheuvel WJA, Walker RW.
Biol Psychiatry, 1974;9:89-91.


The enzymatic N-methylation of serotonin and other amines. by Axelrod J.
J Pharmacol Exp Ther, 1962;138:28-33.


The distribution and properties of the non-specific N-methyltransferase in brain. by Saavedra JM, Coyle JT, Axelrod J.
J Neurochem 1973;20:743-52.


Urinary excretion of dimethyltryptamine in liver disease. by Checkley SA, Oon MCH, Rodnight R, Murphy MP, Williams RS, Birley JLT.
Am J Psychiatry, 1979;136:439-41.


Hallucinogenic N-methylated indolealkylamines in the cerebrospinal fluid of psychiatric and control populations. by Corbett L, Christian ST, Morin RD, Benington F, Smythies JR.
Br J Psychiatry 1978;132:139-44.


In: Wood J, ed. Neurobiology of Cerebrospinal Fluid. v. 2. by Brown G, Smythies J, Morin R.
New York: Plenum, 1983:173-7.


Identification of dimethyltryptamine and O-methylbufotenin in human cerebrospinal fluid by combined gas chromatography/mass spectrometry. by Smythies JR, Morin RD, Brown G.
Biol Psychiatry 1979;14:549-56.


biosignificance of n- and o-methylated indoles to psychiatric disorders. by Koslow.
National Institute of Mental Health, 1974;23:210-9.


Factors affecting the urinary excretion of endogenously formed dimethyltryptamine in normal human subjects. by Oon MCH, Murray RM, Rodnight R, Murphy MP, Birley JLT.
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Nobel Prize winner Julius Axelrod found it in human brain tissue over 30 years ago.

(Type his name into google)
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/manuscripts/ead/axelrod.html

http://people.tribe.net/sigmasmiles/...9-e0fd347f1550

here is a good book for you: http://www.biblio.com/books/92938803.html

if you can't find access to PUBMED, here is a little ProQuest:

Application of transcerebral, weak (1 microT) complex magnetic fields and mystical experiences: Are they generated by field-induced dimethyltryptamine release...
D R Hill, M A Persinger. Perceptual and Motor Skills. Missoula: Dec 2003. Vol. 97, Iss. 3; Part 2. pg. 1049
Abstract (Summary)

During the last 15 years weak, complex magnetic fields have been applied across the two cerebral hemispheres at the level of the temporoparietal lobes of more than 500 volunteers. Most of these subjects have reported visual, vestibular, and proprioceptive sensations as well as experiences of detachment from the body of 'sentient beings'. Similar but more intense experiences were reported by Strassman in 2001 for volunteers who were injected with N,n-dimethyltryptamine, a compound Strassman hypothesized as the primary mediator of these experiences. If this speculation is valid, then subjects who are exposed to the very weak, complex fields known to elicit similar experiences should display significant increases in the metabolites of this compound within their blood.

that should be enough for now.

[spacecake]

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[mushroommaster7]

no no, i was already aware of the fact that DMT is produced naturally within our brains... although i didn't know the gland from which it came...

but what i was getting to is, to use DMT in a large enough quantity to hallucinate... could that be harmful to your brain? the brain produces it naturally but not in such a large amount... such as the amount taken by smoking, or injecting etc....

[KingKanibalKiller]

its def in high concentration in this mammal. as to the euphoria yeah i get that sometimes from break through exp.'s mine usually only last for 45 mins or so but still very pronounced euphoric rushes. i only ridde the worm when im dosed or rolling anymore too hardcore for me on a straight head. the STB vs. ATB question is easy its subjective if you want easy go stb if you want precise i always go a2b anyhoo smoking spice is hardcore but if you want to really understand dmt you should try oral w/ a maoi just be careful the shit is totally humiliating

[mushroommaster7]

oh

[seedlessstinky1]

Originally Posted by Hailee

i think you should take a bit of your own advice. there is a lot of misinformation out there about drugs already. the last thing we need is for more people like you to go around spreading false statements.

pg 79? well first here is Strassman's book, "The Spirit Molecule" which you are basing your claim from. Please read pg. 63:
http://dmt-nexus.com/doc/DMT-The-spi....Strassman.pdf


If you or your University has access to PUBMED you can get most of the articles below:

http://dmt-nexus.com/doc/endogenous%...ytic%20DMT.pdf
^^^

Barker SA, Monti JA and Christian ST (1981). N,N-Dimethyltryptamine: An endogenous hallucinogen. In International Review of Neurobiology, vol 22, pp. 83-110; Academic Press, Inc.

DMT is present not only in humans but certain mammals.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/....shtml#mammals
^^^
Nobel Prize winner Julius Axelrod found it in human brain tissue over 30 years ago.

(Type his name into google)
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/manuscripts/ead/axelrod.html

http://people.tribe.net/sigmasmiles/...9-e0fd347f1550

here is a good book for you: http://www.biblio.com/books/92938803.html

if you can't find access to PUBMED, here is a little ProQuest:
that should be enough for now.

[Coughing_Anon]

hailee, you own. That cleared up my confusion that I've had for a while. Thank you.

[Hailee]

Glad to help. I never understood why some people debated this fact. I mean, it has been known for decades!