Cold Water Extraction, LSA

[bozefonce]

FOAF did a CWE on 450 MG seeds, ground in a coffee grinder, dim light conditions, soaked in distilled water for 10-15 minutes, drained, soaked in fresh DW again, then mixed with lemon juice and consumed. Didn't really strike him as the least bit bad tasting, no sugar needed. After a few minutes, he noticed some intoxicated feelings, then by 45 minutes it was more pronounced. He decided to potentiate the experience with a couple of hits of cannabis. His experience to this moment has definitely been unique, very, very, very trippy. Not much in the spiritual realm, but quite an experience. He's not sure whether to say it was an LSA trip potentiated by marijuana, or the other way around. Still, he feels like the combination was very synergistic. Lots of music played, lots of intense dreaming and thought processes. He kept switchin back and forth from one activity to another (music, tv, internet, dvd, lying down, playing guitar, cooking, eating, etc. Everything indoors, however. Playing it safe.) Now 7 hours later he's pretty much baseline, perhaps just a teeny bit trippy still, but pretty normal. Great experience, says he definitely will repeat. Still waiting for the shrooms to come out and play, though.

[lysergic]

Interesting.
What variety of MG were used?

Any visuals?

[bozefonce]

Originally Posted by lysergic

Interesting.
What variety of MG were used?

Any visuals?

Heavenly Blues (Ipomoea Tricolor according to some of the packets) purchased from 2 different local sources. These were washed in some DW with a drop of dish soap, then rinsed and dried on paper towels, and ground up as described.

The question about visuals is slippery. No OEVs to speak of, but as mentioned before, lots of intense dreaming and thought processes. While lying in bed or on the sofa, CEV's were mixed with dreams and stream of consciousness. Awareness maintained pretty easily, if FOAF wanted to look around and come to reality, he could. But his thoughts and awareness were definitely altered. Some things were very funny, some very introspective, but he always consciously steered away from anything negative. While watching TV he changed channels several times when trailers from a new horror flick were playing. Overall this resulted in quite a positive, enjoyable, even warm experience.

[mydarling]

hey bozefonce i'm gonna move this to storming the gates for you. thanks for sharing your trip report!

[bozefonce]

Originally Posted by mydarling

hey bozefonce i'm gonna move this to storming the gates for you. thanks for sharing your trip report!

Your wish is my command, my darling!

Ya see? Now you got us talking like a married couple. You gotta quit sneaking up on me like that!

[The Truth.]

any cramping or stomach aches?
and 450 was the seed count?

Truth be told Ive done em myself, but just ate em. Chewed em whole. Very nasty, but it worked like a charm.

[bozefonce]

Originally Posted by The Truth.

any cramping or stomach aches?
and 450 was the seed count?

Truth be told Ive done em myself, but just ate em. Chewed em whole. Very nasty, but it worked like a charm.

Yes, that was seed count, not grams. No nausea or stomach discomfort whatsoever. That may have been due to the effects of the marijuana. FOAF has tripped on this particular weed several times and it's always given him serious munchies, which were pretty much present here also. At some point the LSA seems to have diminished or eliminated the desire to eat. There was a certain level of body load, but nothing unpleasant at all. The body load manifested itself as another wonderful sensory input to be appreciated. Sometimes that restlessness in the arms and legs was overwhelmingly pleasant, made FOAF want to squeeze the shit out of his pillow, smiling all the while. Quite trippy. Nothing like this ever happened on MJ alone.

[SunShine47]

Only done MG seeds twice, first time dranked it down and puked a whole lot and tripped pretty good with some visuals. Second time, same thing dranked it down and puked but got a really bad headache. I pretty amazed you didn't much bad side effects.

[Oblivion]

very, very, very trippy

That's exactly how I described it when I had some back in March I think. With grass, there is a real trippy feeling to it. Definitely some synergy there. I'm planning on having some this friday.

[bozefonce]

Originally Posted by SunShine47

Only done MG seeds twice, first time dranked it down and puked a whole lot and tripped pretty good with some visuals. Second time, same thing dranked it down and puked but got a really bad headache. I pretty amazed you didn't much bad side effects.

Did you just do a Cold Water Extraction, or some other method? FOAF tried some HBWR seeds a while back, ate them whole after scraping the husks off. He had some pretty bad nausea at first which cleared up after purging. The trip was unremarkable, but some effects were felt. This time was much better.

[bozefonce]

Originally Posted by Oblivion

That's exactly how I described it when I had some back in March I think. With grass, there is a real trippy feeling to it. Definitely some synergy there. I'm planning on having some this friday.

Sending you some good vibes in hopes of a great experience.

FOAF is still waiting for a real breakthrough at this point, but this most recent experience was quite satisfactory. Next time he might increase the seed count to 600+ or clean up a few more HBWR than he did on his first attempt with those.

[plantman21]

I did the morning glory thing in college . I used petrolium ether to help extract the nausea causing chemicals. Then did it on the 4th. No real visuals, but every time the fireworks would shoot into the air...it kinda sounded like a duck quaking? But in my experience you HAVE TO get the nausea chemicals out, otherwise its kinda like food poisoning symptoms....You just don't know what end it is comeing out of. I still have 5 LBS of seeds left. Just not sure what I want to do with them yet?
Plantman

[bozefonce]

Originally Posted by plantman21

I did the morning glory thing in college . I used petrolium ether to help extract the nausea causing chemicals. Then did it on the 4th. No real visuals, but every time the fireworks would shoot into the air...it kinda sounded like a duck quaking? But in my experience you HAVE TO get the nausea chemicals out, otherwise its kinda like food poisoning symptoms....You just don't know what end it is comeing out of. I still have 5 LBS of seeds left. Just not sure what I want to do with them yet?
Plantman

After reading extensively both on this site and whatever was available from google searches, FOAF became convinced that the easiest way for single dosage is CWE. Some people swear by lemon juice, others say it's unnecessary. FOAF did a combination of both, starting with CWE (only pulls out the good stuff, leaving the bad stuff in the mush) and adding lemon juice to stabilize it and make it more drinkable. Seriously wasn't a bad tasting brew even without Lemon, specially after trying San Pedro tea not too long ago. THAT stuff is nasty!!

Anyway, if you have 5 lbs of seeds, you may want to read this thread FOAF googled recently. Read the entire thing and choose your method:

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=14328

Hope I'm not violating any rules by posting an outside source for this, mods please correct me if I'm out of line, but the whole 11 page post is HIGHLY, HIGHLY instructive. Especially pay attention to the description on page 2 of how to get LSA rocks to precipitate out of a solution using nothing more than Bicarbonate of Soda and some Tartaric Acid. No need to use solvents, no need for dangerous chemicals of any sort. Just put that shit away, and read the whole thread. It'll take you some time, but the back and forth Q and A with someone who seems to know his chemistry is very, very useful.

Bottom line is, unless you have quite a lot of seeds, stick to CWE, lemon juice optional, but recommended.