Unusual DMT experience

childofthetao · 10-09-09, 09:19

Hi all, I would like to share a DMT experience I had.

I took as much smoke as possible and as usual I became extremely physically uncomfortable, I laid down, my vision was clouded by what seemed like thick fog, and I wished it would end. (this is how it normally happens for me).

Now I started to get a glimpse of something through the fog, my point of view was inside a room, there were two maybe three people there with me but I didn't really get a good look, I was looking through a window out over a city, it looked like Egypt, you know those stone buildings in deserts.

I only had the briefest of glimpses though the fog and I was still extremely uncomfortable like I was being squeezed very tightly.

I shared this due to the fact that what I saw was not anything like what is usually described in a DMT experience.

Also the discomfort I feel makes me never want to try it again.

My brother sees amazing things and feels nothing physical in anyway, I guess DMT just isn't for me.

Child of the Tao

Jawn · 10-09-09, 10:48

Hmmm...the physical discomfort you described is definitely not present for me when I try the stuff. It is, however, with Salvia, which is exactly why I stay away from the stuff now.

Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

Shroomette · 10-09-09, 10:57

I moved your thread to "Storming the Gates" being that it was an experience and a trip report.

I have experienced myself the uncomfortable feelings on DMT and waiting to encounter it again when I'm ready to do so. But, I have to say you are right on with the statement that DMT isn't for everyone. The physical uncomfort for me was the body buzz from yellow DMT and the feeling of passing out to having a full blown anxiety attacks. Believe me I'm not crazy about trying it again but, I'm still very curious but, nervious and afraid at the same time. Alot of these psychedelics and enthogen are here as a teacher plant whether it's for healing, cleansing, and etc... DMT is just like no other imho.

buteo · 10-09-09, 11:40

i get physical discmfort but only at certain times. if i dont relive my bladder b4 i take a breakthrough dose it hurts like hell. otherwise it feels great when i hit it...like im exploring the true world around me.

childofthetao · 10-09-09, 13:59

Thanks shroomette, I wasn't sure where to post this.

My theory is that physical tension is what causes my physical discomfort. I have lot's of tension.

But the fact that I saw something so mundane I find very curious indeed.

I will try some pure white DMT, I don't know why but I got the intuitive feeling while experiencing the discomfort that it was because it was yellow. I will find out soon

Child of the Tao

Shroomette · 10-09-09, 14:08

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Originally Posted by childofthetao

But the fact that I saw something so mundane I find very curious indeed.

I will try some pure white DMT , I don't know why but I got the intuitive feeling while experiencing the discomfort that it was because it was yellow. I will find out soon

That is exactly my feeling on the discomfort from my experience as well. I'm definitely up for giving the pure white DMT a go but, that will be later on. I'm wanting a full on breakthrough with my favorite psychedelic (Mescaline).

Btw your are very welcome, that's what I'm hear for.

wildburr · 10-09-09, 14:38

I feel that your disposition before consumption (as with any psychedelic) will dictate what happens during your trip. I will usually be very relaxed and contented before I do any psychedelic, I dont like bad feelings from anything.
Especially DMT.

toadshroom · 10-09-09, 16:50

The part where you talk about looking out a window, like in Egypt, or maybe some ancient civilization reminded me of another trip report I read here not too long ago. I think it was Irishlion, but i'm not sure....he/she talked about a breakthrough experience on spice where he was on top of an aztec/mayan/olmec pyramid performing a sacrifice as a priest...scary stuff i'm sure.

Do you do anything to relieve your physical tension, like meditation, exercise, etc? I've had one near breakthrough experience on spice, and although i have more, i won't try again until everything is in line. As Shroomette said, entheogens are put here as teacher/healer plants, but they are not a quick fix. I'm speaking to myself here, but for me, to really get the full panoramic view that these plants can provide, everything in my life must be in order. Set, setting, and mood has become something of a daily lifestyle for me instead of just when i'm tripping...

childofthetao · 10-09-09, 17:19

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Originally Posted by toadshroom

The part where you talk about looking out a window, like in Egypt, or maybe some ancient civilization reminded me of another trip report I read here not too long ago. I think it was Irishlion, but i'm not sure....he/she talked about a breakthrough experience on spice where he was on top of an aztec/mayan/olmec pyramid performing a sacrifice as a priest...scary stuff i'm sure.

Do you do anything to relieve your physical tension, like meditation, exercise, etc? I've had one near breakthrough experience on spice, and although i have more, i won't try again until everything is in line. As Shroomette said, entheogens are put here as teacher/healer plants, but they are not a quick fix. I'm speaking to myself here, but for me, to really get the full panoramic view that these plants can provide, everything in my life must be in order. Set, setting, and mood has become something of a daily lifestyle for me instead of just when i'm tripping...

Well, I do chi gung (three circle stance) but that's kinda of a long term thing, which is ok to me because I want rid of the tension for it's own sake, not just to have good DMT trips (theoretically anyway).

Now if tension is a problem, I have literally just this second come up with an idea that I'm quite proud of

I'll definitely be trying this, and if anyone else tries please let me know what happens.

Get your spice and your pipe all set and ready to smoke, then go to bed, and the instant you wake up in the morning, blast away!

The body is extremely relaxed upon waking, and this might provide interesting results for anyone, tense or not.

Next time I have some spice I'll have a go, I'm quite looking forward to it actually.

Thank you for asking that question

Child of the Tao

Calaquendi · 10-09-09, 18:00

I second Wildburr - you need to be as relaxed as possible...I have had enormous physical discomfort on DMT, but also nearly orgasmic bliss, and that's no shit...

When I first tried it, all that was around was 'clean' white A/B extracted stuff. Since then I have come to favor the yellow spice for the very reasons that would've made me not like it in the first place: it's 'harder' if you will, and can be at once more beautiful and more frightening.

This "fog" you speak of - I have been wrapped in that stuff several times - it seems like I was submersed in smoke or cloud, I could feel it all over me even in my mouth. It was uncanny and bizarre. It felt like gauze and reminded me of old pictures of mediums spouting 'ectoplasm'. I guess you have to really be ready for anything when you go into hyperspace, it's not always bliss and love, there's no telling where you'll go. As similar as most of my trips are, there are almost as many that are just out of this world nuts, even 'hostile'. Set-your mindset, and setting-where you are physically, who you're with etc. cannot be understated. Relaxation is the Holy Grail of DMT use. More than any other single element IMO. I mean, I know those who could smoke the shit on a roller-coaster, and I know people who really try to 'get there' on it but have a lot of difficulty relaxing in the first place because they've had their wig's split or become frustrated trying to push through. I think DMT wants to 'look at us' as much as we want to look at it.

I really hope you can get where you want with it, there's nothing like it in world. Best of luck to you!

Coopdog · 10-10-09, 03:02

Man, I think you are not getting quite a big enough hit. If you are able to get up and go lay down, you are not gettin there brutha. When I fill my bowl and take a big hit (of yellow spice) It is very easy to take in a thickass oily hit, and I do not vape it like some do in a glass pipe, but I got a nice round bowl that I put on a small waterbong, and I put a half a bowl of my pot leaf or some good buds if there is some, and I put like 5 1/4 inch knife hits on top, and then roast the fuck out of it in one big hit. It's important to move the flame over the entire thing and just inhale really slow. If you practice Chi gung then you are familiar with the yogic breath. Let ALL of the air out of your lungs, and do a long slow inhale roasting the flame over the crystal and then roasting the weed as it burns underneath of it. You will wake up twenty mintues later with your head blown off by the experience.

There is no getting up, I let the smoke out and I go "BLIP" into another realm. I come back 20-25 minutes later. I've only done this a couple of times, and there is absolutely no discomfort other than the initial not confusion of not knowing where you are at. the yellow spice I get is very smooth to smoke and a huge single hit is definitely doable even with my hashed lungs from abusing marijuana for the last thirty yrs

When I do a half hit and leave myself here in this world but tripping on fractals and patterns and colors, it is a very uncomfortable experience for me. The electrical hum is disconcerting, and the tan and orange patterns can be cool, but it makes me tense and uncomfortable, even after doing it quite a few times in one day a while back when I had some. Damn wish I had some more of dat stuff, it is calling to me.

Peace ya'll

childofthetao · 10-10-09, 03:55

Well, I don't get up and go lay down, I just lay down, I always make sure I don't have to get up and move, I'm not sure whether I could get up or not.

I use the machine to smoke it, I think that's what it's called, a bottle with a hole in the bottom and some steel wool in one end, I remember taking at least five to seven big hits, but then I reach a point where my thinking mind shuts down and survival instinct kicks in and I HAVE TO refuse taking any more, it's like I'm being held underwater and I'm drowning, there's no "Oh I'm drowning, well, let's see how this experience turns you never know it could be cool." it's more like "HOLY F***ING S**T IM GONNA DIE" kicking and screaming, not physically, but internally.

Does anyone else get that, uhmm, what's a good word to use, PRIMAL feeling? Like your a wild animal in the jungle kinda of feeling, I can almost taste the foliage and hear birds and stuff, this happened after I caught a glimpse of that Egyptian style city, as the spice was wearing off.

I'm telling you, this stuff maybe uncomfortable but I think it's a good way to measure my tension level, I am extremely short sighted, legally blind (which is PC for practically blind) due to tension in my eyes. And when I take some hits, it's like my consciousness is trying to leave my eyes behind but CAN'T, like it gets stuck there, and I become very aware of the tense hardness of the muscles, around my eyes and above my teeth.

I only hope I can resolve that tightness, and I'm glad DMT can show me that I have it.

There is one more thing (apart from the morning thing) that I want to try, you see if I take mushrooms, as I'm coming up, I experience mildly intense physical discomfort, I have to go lie down on my side (NEVER on my back, for DMT or mushroom, MAJOR discomfort occurs for me on my back) and it feels almost exactly like the DMT discomfort. Its like they both cause some kind of internal energy to re-route itself or re-structure itself, but DMT just goes too far too fast to actually do anything useful, but mushrooms go slower and allow more time and the discomfort eventually passes as the trip begins and I feel great, so an idea is to have some shrooms, wait till the trip as ended and take some DMT, that way I think would bypass the physical discomfort.

Now I just need some shrooms...

Thanks for all the input everyone.

Child of the Tao

Calaquendi · 10-10-09, 12:25

Hey bro -

I like to see people new to this material working the bugs out, props to you...

In my personal experiences with DMT it took a while for me to have a breakthrough hit. I tinkered around with it - I was scared to let go and get in to the deeper dimensions of the experience, I had read and heard so much weird shit. But after trying all night once, it was like six in the morning, I was gonna give it one more try - and if Achtwan hadn't been there I surely would've set myself on fire - I finally found out what all the fuss is about. I broke through in amazing bliss and splendor and have loved it ever since. Maybe you could try another means of smoking it? I like how Coopdog smokes it. I always tell new recruits if they are not getting where they want to change up their strategy some..if you smoke weed this is an excellent method to imbibe, you can absolutely break through with laced weed and it can ease some of the tension also.

Just some thoughts - BTW, your experiences on mushrooms correspond to DMT so much because psilocin is a DMT, a real heavy shroom ride can be very close to smoked DMT, especially if you put an MAOI with it like syrian rue...don't give up on this stuff, it's worth whatever you put in to it!!

cuts · 10-10-09, 18:50

Many times i have had discomfort as well, and other times i wouldn't. One thing i found that helps with this is having a person there with you. LOL one time i smoked a good hit of DMT while on mushrooms and i almost pissed myself! Its always better to go to the bathroom before you dose.

Irishlion · 10-10-09, 19:37

yes it was I that wrote that report of being in acient aztec, it was extremely unnevering but, yet beautiful at the same time. Not something I would like to do again though. Thats what you get when you put 100mgs of dmt into a pipe and hit it hard as you can and hold it in as long as you can till you need a breath, it will really fucking rocket your ass. I went through that cloud/fog you speak of, that greyish mist like looking through the end of a fog and seeing something, but, was hurled through it into that place where I was and felt kinda trapped here and i was that person but, yet wasn't, it was very very very odd and probally not something I will do again, although I will try the white spice but, the yellow just isn't for me that body high just fucking kills me.

I was told not to come back as it wasn't for me and I wouldn't like where I would go and did anyway and boy did I pay for it, I will never forget that and I shall always listen when given advice from the other side from now on believe that.

dimension traveler · 10-11-09, 03:08

hmm it's interesting to me that I here of so many egypt aztec experiences, if I here of one place that is earthly on spice it is always egypt looking, pyramids and what not, never been there my self, but have read reports here and have about 5 friends who have said the same thing.
Hope I see someday so I can relate but I'm not a big fan of spice because it's so machinge like to me. just love the energy awakening from a near death-ego death exp. plus even my dreams for the whole next week are so much more intense.

childofthetao · 10-11-09, 12:21

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Originally Posted by dimension traveler

hmm it's interesting to me that I here of so many egypt aztec experiences, if I here of one place that is earthly on spice it is always egypt looking, pyramids and what not, never been there my self, but have read reports here and have about 5 friends who have said the same thing.
Hope I see someday so I can relate but I'm not a big fan of spice because it's so machinge like to me. just love the energy awakening from a near death-ego death exp. plus even my dreams for the whole next week are so much more intense.

I just had a thought, I am a quarter Arab, so maybe I'm accessing some sort of ancient genetic memory...

Child fo the Tao

911aware · 10-12-09, 01:10

i can relate with the feeling of others being there in the room with you. the fog as you described...to me...is more like sheets of geometric energy that as they get lifted away (the fog clearing), then the most glorious light begins to shine through and the most amazing images are revealed.

the discomfort, in my early experimentations, was due to threshhold amounts, and not getting far enough into the other side. once that happened for the first time, it was almost a physical orgasm...definatly a mental one too.

Calaquendi · 10-12-09, 13:03

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Originally Posted by 911aware

the discomfort, in my early experimentations, was due to threshhold amounts, and not getting far enough into the other side. once that happened for the first time, it was almost a physical orgasm...definatly a mental one too.

ponyboy · 10-12-09, 14:07

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Originally Posted by 911aware

i can relate with the feeling of others being there in the room with you. the fog as you described...to me...is more like sheets of geometric energy that as they get lifted away (the fog clearing), then the most glorious light begins to shine through and the most amazing images are revealed.

the discomfort, in my early experimentations, was due to threshhold amounts, and not getting far enough into the other side. once that happened for the first time, it was almost a physical orgasm...definatly a mental one too.

exactly the worst times swim ever experienced was do to not getting a good enough dose or burning the spice!!!!

Shadowlord · 10-13-09, 13:30

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Originally Posted by ponyboy

exactly the worst times swim ever experienced was do to not getting a good enough dose or burning the spice!!!!

Same here. Small experimental tokes and burnt spice are both really icky feeling. Had me wondering why so many people were so very pro spice and raving about it. The first time I got a really good dose of it, still not even breakthrough amounts, and I got an idea of the beauty and the euphoria/ecstasy of it. I still have to be in the mood to ride though and it still doesn't come as often as I would expect from something so awesome but it has never been bad if I have taken a good sized hit or two. Always feels weird and awful if a small toke is taken or if too much heat is used.
Nothing exactly like DMT. I still don't know what to make of it

tenjin · 10-13-09, 13:56

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Originally Posted by dimension traveler

plus even my dreams for the whole next week are so much more intense.

SWIM has experienced this too. Almost like a build-up of DMT in the system makes you dream more or more intense. It definitely didn't seem like a coincidence.

to hyperspace.

door#6 · 10-13-09, 23:37

you're probably called to be a prophet. dmt wants to impart something it has shown no one but you. here on mycotopia, you will upload all that is revealed; and we will be hanging on every last word.

dimension traveler · 10-13-09, 23:43

prophet for seeing something in the past, now that's new. i'm a prophet too.

door#6 · 10-14-09, 00:50

the future looks like ancient egypt

dimension traveler · 10-14-09, 00:56

if were lucky my friend, say your prayers, i love mommy

911aware · 10-14-09, 20:17

to me, its more of a hindu diety kinda thing (or buddist ... or indonesian), not aztec or egyptian.

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Originally Posted by dimension traveler

hmm it's interesting to me that I here of so many egypt aztec experiences, if I here of one place that is earthly on spice it is always egypt looking, pyramids and what not, never been there my self, but have read reports here and have about 5 friends who have said the same thing.
Hope I see someday so I can relate but I'm not a big fan of spice because it's so machinge like to me. just love the energy awakening from a near death-ego death exp. plus even my dreams for the whole next week are so much more intense.

bbd2 · 10-15-09, 11:12

shiva sitting on mt kailash
eyes half closed, whites only showing
cobra round his neck
arm on a stick
unshakable, imperturbable
absorbed in the supreme bliss
the air looks purple and gold

an image i have had many times
sometimes i see it
sometimes i am it

that plus fractal or self-similar organisation
"as above so below"
microcosm is a model of the macrocosm
self-similar self-organizing organisation

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10-09-09, 09:19	#1 (permalink)
childofthetao Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 85	Unusual DMT experience Hi all, I would like to share a DMT experience I had. I took as much smoke as possible and as usual I became extremely physically uncomfortable, I laid down, my vision was clouded by what seemed like thick fog, and I wished it would end. (this is how it normally happens for me). Now I started to get a glimpse of something through the fog, my point of view was inside a room, there were two maybe three people there with me but I didn't really get a good look, I was looking through a window out over a city, it looked like Egypt, you know those stone buildings in deserts. I only had the briefest of glimpses though the fog and I was still extremely uncomfortable like I was being squeezed very tightly. I shared this due to the fact that what I saw was not anything like what is usually described in a DMT experience. Also the discomfort I feel makes me never want to try it again. My brother sees amazing things and feels nothing physical in anyway, I guess DMT just isn't for me. Child of the Tao

10-09-09, 10:57	#3 (permalink)
Shroomette Fairy Princess Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,936	*I moved your thread to "Storming the Gates" being that it was an experience and a trip report.* I have experienced myself the uncomfortable feelings on DMT and waiting to encounter it again when I'm ready to do so. But, I have to say you are right on with the statement that DMT isn't for everyone. The physical uncomfort for me was the body buzz from yellow DMT and the feeling of passing out to having a full blown anxiety attacks. Believe me I'm not crazy about trying it again but, I'm still very curious but, nervious and afraid at the same time. Alot of these psychedelics and enthogen are here as a teacher plant whether it's for healing, cleansing, and etc... DMT is just like no other imho. __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

10-09-09, 11:40	#4 (permalink)
buteo Imbicilzzzz Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,355	i get physical discmfort but only at certain times. if i dont relive my bladder b4 i take a breakthrough dose it hurts like hell. otherwise it feels great when i hit it...like im exploring the true world around me. __________________ Im only what i think i am

10-09-09, 14:38	#7 (permalink)
wildburr Midnight Toker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,730	I feel that your disposition before consumption (as with any psychedelic) will dictate what happens during your trip. I will usually be very relaxed and contented before I do any psychedelic, I dont like bad feelings from anything. Especially DMT. __________________ Silence is Golden, but Duct tape is Silver.

10-09-09, 10:48	#2 (permalink)
Jawn Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 63	Hmmm...the physical discomfort you described is definitely not present for me when I try the stuff. It is, however, with Salvia, which is exactly why I stay away from the stuff now. Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

10-09-09, 13:59	#5 (permalink)
childofthetao Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 85	Thanks shroomette, I wasn't sure where to post this. My theory is that physical tension is what causes my physical discomfort. I have lot's of tension. But the fact that I saw something so mundane I find very curious indeed. I will try some pure white DMT, I don't know why but I got the intuitive feeling while experiencing the discomfort that it was because it was yellow. I will find out soon Child of the Tao

10-09-09, 16:50	#8 (permalink)
toadshroom Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 247	The part where you talk about looking out a window, like in Egypt, or maybe some ancient civilization reminded me of another trip report I read here not too long ago. I think it was Irishlion, but i'm not sure....he/she talked about a breakthrough experience on spice where he was on top of an aztec/mayan/olmec pyramid performing a sacrifice as a priest...scary stuff i'm sure. Do you do anything to relieve your physical tension, like meditation, exercise, etc? I've had one near breakthrough experience on spice, and although i have more, i won't try again until everything is in line. As Shroomette said, entheogens are put here as teacher/healer plants, but they are not a quick fix. I'm speaking to myself here, but for me, to really get the full panoramic view that these plants can provide, everything in my life must be in order. Set, setting, and mood has become something of a daily lifestyle for me instead of just when i'm tripping...

10-09-09, 18:00	#10 (permalink)
Calaquendi Firstborn Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 406	I second Wildburr - you need to be as relaxed as possible...I have had enormous physical discomfort on DMT, but also nearly orgasmic bliss, and that's no shit... When I first tried it, all that was around was 'clean' white A/B extracted stuff. Since then I have come to favor the yellow spice for the very reasons that would've made me not like it in the first place: it's 'harder' if you will, and can be at once more beautiful and more frightening. This "fog" you speak of - I have been wrapped in that stuff several times - it seems like I was submersed in smoke or cloud, I could feel it all over me even in my mouth. It was uncanny and bizarre. It felt like gauze and reminded me of old pictures of mediums spouting 'ectoplasm'. I guess you have to really be ready for anything when you go into hyperspace, it's not always bliss and love, there's no telling where you'll go. As similar as most of my trips are, there are almost as many that are just out of this world nuts, even 'hostile'. Set-your mindset, and setting-where you are physically, who you're with etc. cannot be understated. Relaxation is the Holy Grail of DMT use. More than any other single element IMO. I mean, I know those who could smoke the shit on a roller-coaster, and I know people who really try to 'get there' on it but have a lot of difficulty relaxing in the first place because they've had their wig's split or become frustrated trying to push through. I think DMT wants to 'look at us' as much as we want to look at it. I really hope you can get where you want with it, there's nothing like it in world. Best of luck to you! __________________ " I am You and what I see is Me..."

10-10-09, 03:02	#11 (permalink)
Coopdog Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 237	Man, I think you are not getting quite a big enough hit. If you are able to get up and go lay down, you are not gettin there brutha. When I fill my bowl and take a big hit (of yellow spice) It is very easy to take in a thickass oily hit, and I do not vape it like some do in a glass pipe, but I got a nice round bowl that I put on a small waterbong, and I put a half a bowl of my pot leaf or some good buds if there is some, and I put like 5 1/4 inch knife hits on top, and then roast the fuck out of it in one big hit. It's important to move the flame over the entire thing and just inhale really slow. If you practice Chi gung then you are familiar with the yogic breath. Let ALL of the air out of your lungs, and do a long slow inhale roasting the flame over the crystal and then roasting the weed as it burns underneath of it. You will wake up twenty mintues later with your head blown off by the experience. There is no getting up, I let the smoke out and I go "BLIP" into another realm. I come back 20-25 minutes later. I've only done this a couple of times, and there is absolutely no discomfort other than the initial not confusion of not knowing where you are at. the yellow spice I get is very smooth to smoke and a huge single hit is definitely doable even with my hashed lungs from abusing marijuana for the last thirty yrs When I do a half hit and leave myself here in this world but tripping on fractals and patterns and colors, it is a very uncomfortable experience for me. The electrical hum is disconcerting, and the tan and orange patterns can be cool, but it makes me tense and uncomfortable, even after doing it quite a few times in one day a while back when I had some. Damn wish I had some more of dat stuff, it is calling to me. Peace ya'll __________________ Be happy wherever you are...Because there you be.

10-10-09, 03:55	#12 (permalink)
childofthetao Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 85	Well, I don't get up and go lay down, I just lay down, I always make sure I don't have to get up and move, I'm not sure whether I could get up or not. I use the machine to smoke it, I think that's what it's called, a bottle with a hole in the bottom and some steel wool in one end, I remember taking at least five to seven big hits, but then I reach a point where my thinking mind shuts down and survival instinct kicks in and I HAVE TO refuse taking any more, it's like I'm being held underwater and I'm drowning, there's no "Oh I'm drowning, well, let's see how this experience turns you never know it could be cool." it's more like "HOLY F*ING ST IM GONNA DIE" kicking and screaming, not physically, but internally. Does anyone else get that, uhmm, what's a good word to use, PRIMAL feeling? Like your a wild animal in the jungle kinda of feeling, I can almost taste the foliage and hear birds and stuff, this happened after I caught a glimpse of that Egyptian style city, as the spice was wearing off. I'm telling you, this stuff maybe uncomfortable but I think it's a good way to measure my tension level, I am extremely short sighted, legally blind (which is PC for practically blind) due to tension in my eyes. And when I take some hits, it's like my consciousness is trying to leave my eyes behind but CAN'T, like it gets stuck there, and I become very aware of the tense hardness of the muscles, around my eyes and above my teeth. I only hope I can resolve that tightness, and I'm glad DMT can show me that I have it. There is one more thing (apart from the morning thing) that I want to try, you see if I take mushrooms, as I'm coming up, I experience mildly intense physical discomfort, I have to go lie down on my side (NEVER on my back, for DMT or mushroom, MAJOR discomfort occurs for me on my back) and it feels almost exactly like the DMT discomfort. Its like they both cause some kind of internal energy to re-route itself or re-structure itself, but DMT just goes too far too fast to actually do anything useful, but mushrooms go slower and allow more time and the discomfort eventually passes as the trip begins and I feel great, so an idea is to have some shrooms, wait till the trip as ended and take some DMT, that way I think would bypass the physical discomfort. Now I just need some shrooms... Thanks for all the input everyone. Child of the Tao

10-10-09, 12:25	#13 (permalink)
Calaquendi Firstborn Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 406	Hey bro - I like to see people new to this material working the bugs out, props to you... In my personal experiences with DMT it took a while for me to have a breakthrough hit. I tinkered around with it - I was scared to let go and get in to the deeper dimensions of the experience, I had read and heard so much weird shit. But after trying all night once, it was like six in the morning, I was gonna give it one more try - and if Achtwan hadn't been there I surely would've set myself on fire - I finally found out what all the fuss is about. I broke through in amazing bliss and splendor and have loved it ever since. Maybe you could try another means of smoking it? I like how Coopdog smokes it. I always tell new recruits if they are not getting where they want to change up their strategy some..if you smoke weed this is an excellent method to imbibe, you can absolutely break through with laced weed and it can ease some of the tension also. Just some thoughts - BTW, your experiences on mushrooms correspond to DMT so much because psilocin is a DMT, a real heavy shroom ride can be very close to smoked DMT, especially if you put an MAOI with it like syrian rue...don't give up on this stuff, it's worth whatever you put in to it!! __________________ " I am You and what I see is Me..."

10-10-09, 18:50	#14 (permalink)
cuts The Pope of Dope Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,213	Many times i have had discomfort as well, and other times i wouldn't. One thing i found that helps with this is having a person there with you. LOL one time i smoked a good hit of DMT while on mushrooms and i almost pissed myself! Its always better to go to the bathroom before you dose.

10-10-09, 19:37	#15 (permalink)
Irishlion KEY MASTER Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,343	yes it was I that wrote that report of being in acient aztec, it was extremely unnevering but, yet beautiful at the same time. Not something I would like to do again though. Thats what you get when you put 100mgs of dmt into a pipe and hit it hard as you can and hold it in as long as you can till you need a breath, it will really fucking rocket your ass. I went through that cloud/fog you speak of, that greyish mist like looking through the end of a fog and seeing something, but, was hurled through it into that place where I was and felt kinda trapped here and i was that person but, yet wasn't, it was very very very odd and probally not something I will do again, although I will try the white spice but, the yellow just isn't for me that body high just fucking kills me. I was told not to come back as it wasn't for me and I wouldn't like where I would go and did anyway and boy did I pay for it, I will never forget that and I shall always listen when given advice from the other side from now on believe that. __________________ a man without honor isn't a man at all but, a soul trapped in a flesh body that is lost in a void of its own making

10-11-09, 03:08	#16 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	hmm it's interesting to me that I here of so many egypt aztec experiences, if I here of one place that is earthly on spice it is always egypt looking, pyramids and what not, never been there my self, but have read reports here and have about 5 friends who have said the same thing. Hope I see someday so I can relate but I'm not a big fan of spice because it's so machinge like to me. just love the energy awakening from a near death-ego death exp. plus even my dreams for the whole next week are so much more intense.

10-12-09, 01:10	#18 (permalink)
911aware Vision Seeker Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 201	i can relate with the feeling of others being there in the room with you. the fog as you described...to me...is more like sheets of geometric energy that as they get lifted away (the fog clearing), then the most glorious light begins to shine through and the most amazing images are revealed. the discomfort, in my early experimentations, was due to threshhold amounts, and not getting far enough into the other side. once that happened for the first time, it was almost a physical orgasm...definatly a mental one too. __________________ It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing milk bone underwear. -norm

10-13-09, 23:37	#23 (permalink)
door#6 one billion served Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 62	you're probably called to be a prophet. dmt wants to impart something it has shown no one but you. here on mycotopia, you will upload all that is revealed; and we will be hanging on every last word.

10-13-09, 23:43	#24 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	prophet for seeing something in the past, now that's new. i'm a prophet too.

10-14-09, 00:50	#25 (permalink)
door#6 one billion served Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 62	the future looks like ancient egypt

10-14-09, 00:56	#26 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	if were lucky my friend, say your prayers, i love mommy

10-15-09, 11:12	#28 (permalink)
bbd2 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 508	shiva sitting on mt kailash eyes half closed, whites only showing cobra round his neck arm on a stick unshakable, imperturbable absorbed in the supreme bliss the air looks purple and gold an image i have had many times sometimes i see it sometimes i am it that plus fractal or self-similar organisation "as above so below" microcosm is a model of the macrocosm self-similar self-organizing organisation

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