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Old 11-11-09, 09:35   #1 (permalink)
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A bigger dose...........

WTF?
I just loaded 50mg(ish) of spice into my machine and hit it hard twice,At first it was just the buzzing noise which became insanely loud and resonated throughout every molecule in my body, Then it was like a million different episodes of existence were all fighting for my attention at once at the speed of light. It was like my whole life played back to me in some sort of surreal slideshow (some of it on repeat). I definitely heard voices.
I'm finding it very difficult to remember anything in detail?

That kind of scared the shit out of me and excited me at the same time. I've only just stopped shaking.
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wow man u sure it was 50mg 'ish. yellow or white? ive only got a compleat breakthrough once where i was in a place of learning, the elfs were there 'observing' me and i was in this strange sphereical room with 3 spheres floating in it covered by symbols. the seemed to contain the compleate history of all life but i couldnt absorb it all in time. that was from around 75-80mg 'ish yellow spice.
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wow man u sure it was 50mg 'ish. yellow or white? ive only got a compleat breakthrough once where i was in a place of learning, the elfs were there 'observing' me and i was in this strange sphereical room with 3 spheres floating in it covered by symbols. the seemed to contain the compleate history of all life but i couldnt absorb it all in time. that was from around 75-80mg 'ish yellow spice.
I'm not really sure man(just a guess?), I just loaded it with "I'm gonna do it this time" in mind and then hit it hard.
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lol thats one way to get a breakthrough keep at it and you'll have one to remember some day.
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I just loaded it with "I'm gonna do it this time" in mind and then hit it hard.
That made me smile!

Nice report!
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wow man u sure it was 50mg 'ish. yellow or white? ive only got a compleat breakthrough once where i was in a place of learning, the elfs were there 'observing' me and i was in this strange sphereical room with 3 spheres floating in it covered by symbols. the seemed to contain the compleate history of all life but i couldnt absorb it all in time. that was from around 75-80mg 'ish yellow spice.

I too have been in the sphereical room with the spheres floating around me, also sounded like some one was whispering in fastforward very loud. HAHA! gotta love it!
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That's the only way to break through IMHO.
I know that whatever I can't finish will be in the pipe for next time so I overload it a little bit ( no need to get nuts ) and take as many tokes as I can. Sometimes it is 3 or 2. SOmetimes you really get it all at one toke and kaboom but whatever you will be shown is what you will get so there is no real preparation possible.
I can usually tell when to put the pipe down as there is that certain part of the whole experience that lets you know you are gone before the trip even starts. I get that uh-oh, I really did it now feeling and it's show-time!
Well, you know beyond a doubt now that you have DMT Paph.
I would go back more often but that Oh shit feeling makes it something I have to be in the right mood for. HaHaha
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I've been reading a lot of DMT experiences and I think as I began to come down I got "stuck in a loop" everything kept repeating itself for what seemed like eternity (time dilation). This was the part that terrified me.

I'm gonna hit it again in a week or two to see if this happens again, I'll let you all know how it goes.
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i havnt had a breakthrough yet. i really want to. :-( ive only smoked spice 4 or 5 times.
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At first it was just the buzzing noise which became insanely loud and resonated throughout every molecule in my body, Then it was like a million different episodes of existence were all fighting for my attention at once at the speed of light. It was like my whole life played back to me in some sort of surreal slideshow (some of it on repeat). I definitely heard voices.
I'm finding it very difficult to remember anything in detail?

That kind of scared the shit out of me and excited me at the same time. I've only just stopped shaking.
Great report paph, thank you ...I can share some of my own experience here, but first a question: have you ever done DMT before? If so, have you experienced a breakthrough hit prior to this episode?

I ask because, no matter how many times one imbibes, and no matter how 'familiar' we think are getting with this stuff, it will invariably and eventually let us know (in no uncertain terms) that we don't know shit.

I smoked for several weeks kind of 'piddling around' with it before I had my first real experience. On lower doses it's all threshold and this can be (and often is) uncomfortable...it belies the truth of the situation and discourages newcomers, and sometimes veterans alike, from taking that ever-important last hit to get through. A breakthrough hit is worth every shiver of fear and every drop of sweat, I promise you. It sounds like you got a good scrambler- for me, several factors are involved to determine the quality of any given trip: I prefer to smoke either alone or with no more than two very close friends, and even then I like to usually go one at a time so that if someone starts to moan or babble it does not distract. I also prefer music - this is key man-electronic music works best as there are no lyrics to get hung up on etc...the type of music will always, always affect the visual stimulation. Things like real articulated trance ( i.e. Shpongle) typically produce visuals commensurate with the flow of the tunes, the timing and various trippy sound layers. Ambient music unfolds much slower and there is no percussion to accentuate specific modes of visualization. All these things are important. On several occasions, I have hit 'brand new' spice fresh outa the scrape-these hits are often totally scary and intense- and sometimes I can't get down my 'usual' amount - it just does like what you described : blasts my head off super fast and overlaps/superimposes many different images and motifs. This to me is not as enjoyable as the enchanting, flowing and effervescent billows of beauty and emotion I seek when I smoke DMT. I suppose all this is just to say, perhaps, along with your determining your preferred dosing/method of smoking, try to make a situation as comfortable as possible- find what works best for you and stick with it. I like what Shadowlord says, and you seem to have the same idea: really it's not too important to be very specific about measuring a dose. Load it up and smoke it until you feel yourself getting 'drowsy' or going cross-eyed. When this develops, take one more big nasty pull - and away you go...try it in dark/near dark and with soft soothing tunes to help the velocity of the peak unfold more comfortably. It works great every time...also smoking DMT on acid is too unreal for words, if you think DMT is visually stimulating - hit the stuff on acid, you'll pee in your pants. Nice thread, great report...keep up the good work and best of luck!!!

PS> I know we said that being overly specific about measuring doses is not crucial, however I mean to clarify : you can't smoke too much DMT - that is - it is very safe stuff, so it is much better to put 'too much' in the pipe than not enough...put more in than you think you will need, it'll be there when you get back if you can't finish in one go round. That way you are sure to blast through and not have to fool around with continually loading/packing the smoking device....WOOT!
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while a dark enviro helps to reduce anxiety and increases comfort

a very brightly lit environment can be incredible

but you might feel like your senses are turned up too high
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Great report paph, thank you ...I can share some of my own experience here, but first a question: have you ever done DMT before? If so, have you experienced a breakthrough hit prior to this episode?

I ask because, no matter how many times one imbibes, and no matter how 'familiar' we think are getting with this stuff, it will invariably and eventually let us know (in no uncertain terms) that we don't know shit.

I smoked for several weeks kind of 'piddling around' with it before I had my first real experience. On lower doses it's all threshold and this can be (and often is) uncomfortable...it belies the truth of the situation and discourages newcomers, and sometimes veterans alike, from taking that ever-important last hit to get through. A breakthrough hit is worth every shiver of fear and every drop of sweat, I promise you. It sounds like you got a good scrambler- for me, several factors are involved to determine the quality of any given trip: I prefer to smoke either alone or with no more than two very close friends, and even then I like to usually go one at a time so that if someone starts to moan or babble it does not distract. I also prefer music - this is key man-electronic music works best as there are no lyrics to get hung up on etc...the type of music will always, always affect the visual stimulation. Things like real articulated trance ( i.e. Shpongle) typically produce visuals commensurate with the flow of the tunes, the timing and various trippy sound layers. Ambient music unfolds much slower and there is no percussion to accentuate specific modes of visualization. All these things are important. On several occasions, I have hit 'brand new' spice fresh outa the scrape-these hits are often totally scary and intense- and sometimes I can't get down my 'usual' amount - it just does like what you described : blasts my head off super fast and overlaps/superimposes many different images and motifs. This to me is not as enjoyable as the enchanting, flowing and effervescent billows of beauty and emotion I seek when I smoke DMT. I suppose all this is just to say, perhaps, along with your determining your preferred dosing/method of smoking, try to make a situation as comfortable as possible- find what works best for you and stick with it. I like what Shadowlord says, and you seem to have the same idea: really it's not too important to be very specific about measuring a dose. Load it up and smoke it until you feel yourself getting 'drowsy' or going cross-eyed. When this develops, take one more big nasty pull - and away you go...try it in dark/near dark and with soft soothing tunes to help the velocity of the peak unfold more comfortably. It works great every time...also smoking DMT on acid is too unreal for words, if you think DMT is visually stimulating - hit the stuff on acid, you'll pee in your pants. Nice thread, great report...keep up the good work and best of luck!!!

PS> I know we said that being overly specific about measuring doses is not crucial, however I mean to clarify : you can't smoke too much DMT - that is - it is very safe stuff, so it is much better to put 'too much' in the pipe than not enough...put more in than you think you will need, it'll be there when you get back if you can't finish in one go round. That way you are sure to blast through and not have to fool around with continually loading/packing the smoking device....WOOT!
I have done DMT maybe 5 or 6 time in total and I have never broken through before (this is because I was just kind of messing around with small doses......)

Thank you Calaquendi, You have clarified a lot for me, I will try with soft music this time ( it has always been a silent experience before) and pack a little extra into the pipe..
I'll report back when I blast off.
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