Mantis-like hyperdimensional entities

[Gamera]

I've never met them myself, but I have read multiple referrences to mantis-like aliens associated with the extreme fringes of psilocybin and DMT intoxication. By and large they seem not particularly friendly, although perhaps just aloof.

In any event, I've had a series of what I can only describe as bizarre coincidences involving praying mantises the most unusual being finding a bright green mantis fully 4 inches long sitting on my car windshield on the day I first innoculated. Keep in mind that they are not native and I have never seen one in 30 years of living here nor have I ever even heard of one being seen here. Yesterday and today they appeared in a book and a TV show respectively.

I'm not sure what to make of it other than maybe just a naked synchronicity, but I'd welcome any thought or comments.

[b52baby]

never heard that before. what approx. part of the country are you from? I've seen mantis as far north as st. louis.

[Mind]

I have came accrosse equally odd coincedences, so much so to make me shed my thoughts on what all life is.
Around that time at the peak of my happiness not to along ago, i walked out to my car and saw many many prey mantises doing mating dances.
Really koo shit to see, so i brought one back to my apt. and felt horrible from taking him/her from the mating scene and quickly returned him/her.
Definately the most beatiful organism i have witnessed, i will search for the alien mantis you speak of in my next trips.
Surely a wise being.

[suckerfree]

The mantis is found all over the world; 'mantid' derives from a greek word meaning 'seer' or 'prophet'.

Even if you don't think that particular species is native to your area, gardeners introduce the little guys for bug control. You can buy the eggs online.

http://www.desertusa.com/mag00/dec/papr/mantis.html

[SharkieJones]

I see the number 222 all over the place. It keeps popping up for me. Even look at my join date. Even my join date back in 2002 happened to be on December 2nd. Then after the sight changed I even ended up with 3 222's in my join date.

[phalanx]

I once saw a humanoid cat being on Ayahuasca. When I think about it, I could also interpret it as a humanoid alien mantis. It was the most magnificent creature i ever saw. I felt it was very powerful and had a great ability to heal people.

[viraljimmy]

There are reports of the "alien abduction" variety
that include mantis-type beings.

[Gamera]

I'll try and track down some of the referrences. There's a couple as I recall in True Hallucinations and there's a few decribed here

More here

I recalled from this trip report that insectoid aliens were not always friendly, in McKenna's account they punish his girlfriend for her attainment of forbidden knowledge. So I had mixed feelings about the shamanic import of sightings.

[phalanx]

I think in trips there is a mix of the personal and archetypal which isnt easy to separate. Hostility may be more a reflection on the tripper than the "beings".

[reefer]

Scroll down just a little bit on this page and you'll see the Dark Overlord in his "Mantis Form"

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/darkovrlrdhoward.htm

It is described as an extra-dimensional, extra-temporal demon. Capable of many terrible powers, one of which is shape shifting.

"A race of beings/demons that were exiled to the Nexus of Sominus by unknown adversaries after the First Cosmic War. "

[Gamera]

Originally Posted by reefer37

Scroll down just a little bit on this page and you'll see the Dark Overlord in his "Mantis Form"

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/darkovrlrdhoward.htm

It is described as an extra-dimensional, extra-temporal demon. Capable of many terrible powers, one of which is shape shifting.

"A race of beings/demons that were exiled to the Nexus of Sominus by unknown adversaries after the First Cosmic War. "

Very cool. I saw a referrence to them on a site describing various alien races but I can't seem to find it now. Found it.

A few referrences at Deoxy

I think they were referrenced in DMT the Spirit Molecule too.

Anyway, I'll have to draw my own conclusions when I meet them I imagine.

[reefer]

IMO people who claim to have seen them probably just saw the movie "Howard the Duck" in the 80s and it stuck in their head.

[Gamera]

Originally Posted by reefer37

IMO people who claim to have seen them probably just saw the movie "Howard the Duck" in the 80s and it stuck in their head.

You mean like maybe being abducted by evil insects aliens would be a escapist fantasy to avoid having to face the painful memory of sitting through the movie?

On the other hand, young Lea Thompson, yum . . .

[Forager]

Interesting...I think there's something to this shared vision of insectoid or reptilian like creatures in our psychedelic voyages. Though I expect your encounters with actual praying mantis' are just coincidental, or pure 'naked synchronicity' as you nicely put it. I'm skeptical of accounts of alien contact, and all paranormal/pseudoscience allegations for that matter, however there is no doubt a common theme in some of these chemically induced visions. My most profound mushroom experience involved a very lucid encounter with what I can best describe as an insectoid (mantis-like) creature which, for lack of better description, took a very clinical and intimate interest in me. I was guided to 'her' by another more human figure. The setting was on a 'spaceship' that had a structure that was both organic and machine-like. I was very in control of my fear at the time, and I remember being able to go as far as I did by letting go of my fear. Until the point it got really weird- then when I decided to step out, that was it and I was back to the familiar geometric wall breathing state. Maybe this was just a very real seeming subconscious stream of thought akin to any other dreams or nightmares we may have, but enabled in a waking state by psilocybin? Strange though, the number of independent references to these hallucinations that are very similar in their nature.

Another common experience is the phenomenon of auditory hallucinations (and harmonic resonance). I definitely have noticed at times a maddening sort of cicada like background sound that churns along when I’m really out there. I seem to recall that being fairly intense during my mantis encounter.

[Gamera]

Originally Posted by Forager

Interesting...I think there's something to this shared vision of insectoid or reptilian like creatures in our psychedelic voyages. Though I expect your encounters with actual praying mantis' are just coincidental, or pure 'naked synchronicity' as you nicely put it. I'm skeptical of accounts of alien contact, and all paranormal/pseudoscience allegations for that matter, however there is no doubt a common theme in some of these chemically induced visions. My most profound mushroom experience involved a very lucid encounter with what I can best describe as an insectoid (mantis-like) creature which, for lack of better description, took a very clinical and intimate interest in me. I was guided to 'her' by another more human figure. The setting was on a 'spaceship' that had a structure that was both organic and machine-like. I was very in control of my fear at the time, and I remember being able to go as far as I did by letting go of my fear. Until the point it got really weird- then when I decided to step out, that was it and I was back to the familiar geometric wall breathing state. Maybe this was just a very real seeming subconscious stream of thought akin to any other dreams or nightmares we may have, but enabled in a waking state by psilocybin? Strange though, the number of independent references to these hallucinations that are very similar in their nature.

Another common experience is the phenomenon of auditory hallucinations (and harmonic resonance). I definitely have noticed at times a maddening sort of cicada like background sound that churns along when I’m really out there. I seem to recall that being fairly intense during my mantis encounter.

The auditory buzzing seems to be a fairly common correlate - in True Hallicinations that was the major component of the experience and became the key to the La Chorrera incident.

Mantis contact seems to me to be at the very least a kind of archetypal vision. Poking around I found trip reports with mantis entities for dmt, shrooms, dxm, ketamine and salvia. I'm generally agnostic about these sorts of things, best not to get caught in the whole real/unreal duality, imho.

[mycobri]

Whitley Strieber's Communion type abductions with pineal buzz and mantoid dreamstates always seem similar to the DMT journey. Maybe aliens use DMT already present in our brains, to coax us into there multidimensional spaceships and then.....

[Jacsprat]

I found this in a dream dictionary


Praying Mantis
To see a praying mantis in your dream, suggests that you are in a destructive relationship. It may also indicate that you are preying on others.****

Hope this helps.

[shoe]

I have encountered not a praying mantis, but a mantis head.

after charging up on a damn good hit of dmt (back when I had loads)

a tiny speck of some residual image from a light or otherwise in my vision
grew to be a giant floating insectoid ant like head, or perhaps a mantis. It had
red compound eyes.. perhaps a fly.

anyhow,
It was suspended inside a giant swirling vortex of colour; ranging from the colours of the chakras in the western system. (can't remember hwo it goes, but its like red orange yellow green blue violet... or something. UP the chakras from red, the base chakra.)

anyway, the insect head swirled and rotated, until It grew smaller and smaller, and the vortext encapsulated my brain and swirled into my solar plexus. During this time I was in a space made of pure colours, the colours of the chakras. Then, i felt charged, as if powered up. the vision faded...