DMT dosing?WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 19:59

I just washed some spice with ammonia after I made a DMT extraction using Marsofolds tek (thanks btw, it was easy!) and I'm not sure on how to smoke it.
Is parsley really what you smoke it with?
How much of the powder goes in the pipe?
Thanks!!

adnauseam · 03-17-06, 20:07

As far as I know only the tiniest pinch is required.. After smoking the tinyest pinch possible one may want another tiny pinch. Unless You have a scale that will measure micro-grams use the pinch method.

Smoking it on some sort of herb may be okay, but you are wanting to mostly vaporize it, not so much burn it. Method b, in a bulb-style pipe is possible if one has such a pipe. You want to make the DMT bubble and boil while inhaling the hot vapours. If one used multiple layers of screens vaping/melting it may be possible in a regular pipe.

You could always cut the top thread of a light bulb off and use that. Works great as a vaporizing method for your green, too.

arezap · 03-17-06, 20:15

Okay reverand, you take the head of a pin and use it to scoop up a dose upside downThat's it, maybe 2 such "scoops".It doesn't take much. Just remember to be sitting down. You go up fast!

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 20:30

Thanks guys!
Head of a needle, thats not much at all.
I'm excited about this, I've been looking forward to trying DMT for a long time.
I'm going to let it dry out overnight and try it tomorrow.

Hippie3 · 03-17-06, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by adnauseam

If one used multiple layers of screens vaping/melting it may be possible in a regular pipe.

now where did i leave the crack pipe?

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 21:06

Lol hip, I'm dying to light it up right now!

waylitjim · 03-17-06, 21:16

Hey Rev, congrats on your extraction. Properly smoking D can be challenging, smoking thru a water pipe reduces burning in the mouth. We found that using a bubbler and placing the D on a piece of fresh lettuce, (blotted with a paper towel) works great. You have to be careful, or it it will melt and run down the pipe and be lost. The lettuce doesn't really burn, but it creates a bed for the D to melt, pool up and burn. Also if you have a butane lighter or torch that'll work better than a regular lighter. Also, I use more D than 2 pin scoops. You can't smoke too much, your body will tell you when you've had enough. I go for a small pile about the size of a pencil eraser. Have Fun!!!

03-17-06, 21:17

The average dose of n,n-DMT is 30-60mgs, which is much larger than the size of a pinhead.. I suggest you throw a tenth of a gram in your pipe with ash or herb and try not to direct flame it, but flame the herb, so it vapes.. You could use some sort of vaporization method, like a lightbulb and a straw or even like heroin(chasing the dragon) on foil.. Once it hits you, you will most likely stop hitting it, and if not, well good, then you must not have gotten enough.. It isn't like you will OD, and trust me, you will quit if you get too high...

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 21:22

Thanks Waylit, being a veteran Sally smoker I do own a butane torch lighter and a water pipe.
Should I hold the flame to it constant like you would with Sally or should you maybe keep it away from it a bit?

marsofold · 03-17-06, 21:30

I smoke about 2/3 of a pencil eraser in volume. I put it on a thin layer of ash and cover it with a very thin layer of parsley, although many people like to cover it with a thin layer of pot. Then I hit the edge with a Bic butane lighter so that 1/3 of the bowl burns. Hold the first hit 10 seconds, then exhale and quickly do it again, so that the 2nd third of the bowl burns, holding it 10 seconds. Exhale and finally hit it to finish the bowl and hold as long as comfortable. Best DMT smoking technique I've found...

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 21:48

Hey cool guys, so it sounds to like it's a good idea to have more in the bowl than not enough.
I'll do the smaller tokes and hold as you suggest Marsofold, I don't want to cough out a big hit if I can do a few smaller ones.
I like how you put it PB "Once it hits you, you will most likely stop hitting it"
I can't wait!!

waylitjim · 03-17-06, 21:52

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 22:06

Great pics Waylit, some cool artwork indeed!

shadyfigure · 03-17-06, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverend trips

I just washed some spice with ammonia after I made a DMT extraction using Marsofolds tek (thanks btw, it was easy!) and I'm not sure on how to smoke it.
Is parsley really what you smoke it with?
How much of the powder goes in the pipe?
Thanks!!

link to Marsofolds tek?

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 22:08

http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=5653 (Marsofold's DMT Extraction tek & results....)
Works like a charm

shadyfigure · 03-17-06, 22:16

thanks man, i've been wanting to try this. Any tips?

TheAngryGolfer · 03-17-06, 22:23

2 "pin scoops" is too little. you need about 50 mg for a proper dose. its tough to eyeball it because it generally looks like more than it is.

theres a few ways to smoke it. I have never seen one of those "classic DMT pipes" they describe on some of those old FAQs on erowid and shit (if someone has one please post a pic, I want to get one custom made)... the two main ways are in a regular pipe, sandwiched between ash, parsely, weed or whatever, or in a one of those pipes they use for smoking meth I think.... they are like a glass tube with a ball on the end with a little hole on top, these are usually refered to as a base pipe. with the base pipe you heat it from the bottom, causing the DMT to melt and then boil/vaporize. I was a big believer in the base pipe... but yesterday I had my strongest trip ever using a regular pipe and parsely. I just actually ordered a lord of the rings style pipe from shivadas that I will be using for DMT only... I dunno it just fits.

when you use the regular pipe, try to hold the flame slightly above the stuff, not actually touching. after a while you will get smoke from the spice (and also the parsely). take 3 or 4 hits like that and you should be good.

BTW how big was your yield and what vendor did you get your MHRB from?

reverend trips · 03-17-06, 22:38

I used 100 grams of mhrb I won from an old raffle here on mycotopia.
I used Marsofolds calculator to do the scale down math for me:
http://iff.worldfreeweb.com/d/marsocalc.php
I'll let you know about weight tomorrow when I'm 100% sure it's dry from ammonia.
I also used Marsofolds latest advice I read in the basification thread about freezing the naptha in a baking pan and pouring out the naptha without filtering through a coffee filter. I'd say 99% of it stuck to the pan, easy to scrape up once dried btw.
A ballpark guess of weight from my experience eyeballing powder would be .4, but that is just a guess.

Hippie3 · 03-17-06, 23:02

Quote:

used 100 grams of mhrb I won from an old raffle here on mycotopia.

that would have been from bouncing bear.

lyqwyd · 03-17-06, 23:04

waylit, the second and the last pic look very familiar....

waylitjim · 03-18-06, 01:09

The artist is Brahma.

slide · 03-18-06, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by pissybee

The average dose of n,n-DMT is 30-60mgs, which is much larger than the size of a pinhead.. I suggest you throw a tenth of a gram in your pipe with ash or herb and try not to direct flame it, but flame the herb, so it vapes.. You could use some sort of vaporization method, like a lightbulb and a straw or even like heroin(chasing the dragon) on foil.. Once it hits you, you will most likely stop hitting it, and if not, well good, then you must not have gotten enough.. It isn't like you will OD, and trust me, you will quit if you get too high...

Im sure if he was going to smoke this DMT it was in the freebase form 5-meo-DMT which dosage levels are smaller than the size of a pinhead. Yea, I have seen people OD on 5-meo-DMT, I saw two of my friend with that craziest face i have ever seen them make after they hit an unspecified amount, too much, then vomit, and were very unconfortable. Both people were known space cowboys.

reverend trips · 03-18-06, 10:00

Quote:

Im sure if he was going to smoke this DMT it was in the freebase form 5-meo-DMT which dosage levels are smaller than the size of a pinhead. Yea, I have seen people OD on 5-meo-DMT, I saw two of my friend with that craziest face i have ever seen them make after they hit an unspecified amount, too much, then vomit, and were very unconfortable. Both people were known space cowboys.

Are they fine now?

TheAngryGolfer · 03-18-06, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by slide

Im sure if he was going to smoke this DMT it was in the freebase form 5-meo-DMT which dosage levels are smaller than the size of a pinhead. Yea, I have seen people OD on 5-meo-DMT, I saw two of my friend with that craziest face i have ever seen them make after they hit an unspecified amount, too much, then vomit, and were very unconfortable. Both people were known space cowboys.

5-meo-dmt is NOT the freebase form of DMT. it is a different chemical.

he said he extracted it from mimosa hostilis root bark. there is no 5-meo-DMT in MHRB, only regular DMT.

yes you can overdose on 5-MEO, but what this guy has is absolutely NOT 5-meo.

and for regular DMT you need around 50mg. thats alot more than the size of a pinhead (and when you see it you will be like "wow I need that much?"... DMT is very fluffy and looks like more than it is).

you cant overdose. if you keep smoking until you CANT (usualy 3 or 4 hits tops), you will just have a very strong trip.

reverend trips · 03-18-06, 10:14

Quote:

Im sure if he was going to smoke this DMT it was in the freebase form 5-meo-DMT which dosage levels are smaller than the size of a pinhead. Yea, I have seen people OD on 5-meo-DMT, I saw two of my friend with that craziest face i have ever seen them make after they hit an unspecified amount, too much, then vomit, and were very unconfortable. Both people were known space cowboys.

Has anyone else had this happen to them?

reverend trips · 03-18-06, 10:15

Ah, cool, thanks AG

Hippie3 · 03-18-06, 11:10

Quote:

5-meo-dmt is NOT the freebase form of DMT. it is a different chemical.

he said he extracted it from mimosa hostilis root bark. there is no 5-meo-DMT in MHRB, only regular DMT.

yes you can overdose on 5-MEO, but what this guy has is absolutely NOT 5-meo.

correct for sure

reverend trips · 03-18-06, 11:23

Hehee... Isn't it funny that I didn't even know what I had for sure.
Well 2 hours till blast off!

reverend trips · 03-18-06, 11:35

Hey guys, sorry for all the questions but is this going to drag me out after?
Will I be able to do shit later tonight like maybe have some beers and eat some mushies?
Thanks again!

TheAngryGolfer · 03-18-06, 11:36

good luck man... post a trip report

waylitjim · 03-18-06, 13:09

Quote:

Is this going to drag me out after? Will I be able to do shit later tonight?

After smoking DMT, there's almost no residual side effects. I usually feel more relaxed, and sometimes a bit euphoric for a few hours. No hangover at all, really it's pretty amazing how good you can feel for being so far out there 15 minutes earlier. You'll feel like a million bucks Rev, like a new man.

reverend trips · 03-18-06, 13:09

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/dmt02.htm

Seems like some good info:

DMT
How To Use DMT

DMT, (N,N-dimethyltryptamine is not orally active (by itself), and must be smoked to experience its effects. Tolerance for the drug builds almost immediately.

If you don't get enough in the first 30 seconds, smoking more will not put you into the far out visionary DMT state, but will only result in a more 'ordinary' hallucinogenic state.

If on an attempt, you don't get enough, you must wait at least one hour before trying again (smoking multiple doses within the hour can result in you seeing the patterns but it is almost impossible to break through to the extreme states described below).

Furthermore, the actual mechanics of smoking DMT can be quite tricky. In our experience, without careful attention to technique, about half the DMT shots misfire.

Therefore, it is essential to use effective technique in order not to waste the drug. In this paper we offer three different tested techniques in an easy to follow step-by-step format; We have also included our description (however inadequate) of what a DMT trip is like. We are well aware of how scarce a substance DMT is.

We had to undertake a long, intensive search to secure a supply of this marvelous drug in the smokeable, freebase form. The search was well worth it!

One of the reasons for writing this paper is, hopefully, to increase the demand for DMT. If this paper intrigues you, we suggest that the you seek out a supply of your own. Look for DMT in the smokeable freebase, not hydrochloride form. You will not be disappointed.

Getting Ready

1. We recommend a uniformly, though not brightly, lit room. Unlike with mushrooms, in total darkness the DMT visions are rather drab. In full sunlight the colors are unbelievably intense with red and gold predominating but we feel that bright sunlight tends to obscure some of the intricate detail so characteristic of DMT vis

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03-17-06, 19:59	#1 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	DMT dosing?WOW!!!!!!!!!!! I just washed some spice with ammonia after I made a DMT extraction using Marsofolds tek (thanks btw, it was easy!) and I'm not sure on how to smoke it. Is parsley really what you smoke it with? How much of the powder goes in the pipe? Thanks!!

03-17-06, 20:07	#2 (permalink)
adnauseam Mycophiliac Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 27	How... As far as I know only the tiniest pinch is required.. After smoking the tinyest pinch possible one may want another tiny pinch. Unless You have a scale that will measure micro-grams use the pinch method. Smoking it on some sort of herb may be okay, but you are wanting to mostly vaporize it, not so much burn it. Method b, in a bulb-style pipe is possible if one has such a pipe. You want to make the DMT bubble and boil while inhaling the hot vapours. If one used multiple layers of screens vaping/melting it may be possible in a regular pipe. You could always cut the top thread of a light bulb off and use that. Works great as a vaporizing method for your green, too.

03-17-06, 21:16	#7 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,936	Hey Rev, congrats on your extraction. Properly smoking D can be challenging, smoking thru a water pipe reduces burning in the mouth. We found that using a bubbler and placing the D on a piece of fresh lettuce, (blotted with a paper towel) works great. You have to be careful, or it it will melt and run down the pipe and be lost. The lettuce doesn't really burn, but it creates a bed for the D to melt, pool up and burn. Also if you have a butane lighter or torch that'll work better than a regular lighter. Also, I use more D than 2 pin scoops. You can't smoke too much, your body will tell you when you've had enough. I go for a small pile about the size of a pencil eraser. Have Fun!!! __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

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waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,936	Looking Inward ~ Exploring Outward Attached Thumbnails __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

03-17-06, 20:15	#3 (permalink)
arezap Underfunded evil genius Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 606	Okay reverand, you take the head of a pin and use it to scoop up a dose upside downThat's it, maybe 2 such "scoops".It doesn't take much. Just remember to be sitting down. You go up fast!

03-17-06, 20:30	#4 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Thanks guys! Head of a needle, thats not much at all. I'm excited about this, I've been looking forward to trying DMT for a long time. I'm going to let it dry out overnight and try it tomorrow.

03-17-06, 21:06	#6 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Lol hip, I'm dying to light it up right now!

03-17-06, 21:17	#8 (permalink)
~pissybee Guest Posts: n/a	The average dose of n,n-DMT is 30-60mgs, which is much larger than the size of a pinhead.. I suggest you throw a tenth of a gram in your pipe with ash or herb and try not to direct flame it, but flame the herb, so it vapes.. You could use some sort of vaporization method, like a lightbulb and a straw or even like heroin(chasing the dragon) on foil.. Once it hits you, you will most likely stop hitting it, and if not, well good, then you must not have gotten enough.. It isn't like you will OD, and trust me, you will quit if you get too high...

03-17-06, 21:22	#9 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Thanks Waylit, being a veteran Sally smoker I do own a butane torch lighter and a water pipe. Should I hold the flame to it constant like you would with Sally or should you maybe keep it away from it a bit?

03-17-06, 21:30	#10 (permalink)
marsofold Mycotopiate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 345	I smoke about 2/3 of a pencil eraser in volume. I put it on a thin layer of ash and cover it with a very thin layer of parsley, although many people like to cover it with a thin layer of pot. Then I hit the edge with a Bic butane lighter so that 1/3 of the bowl burns. Hold the first hit 10 seconds, then exhale and quickly do it again, so that the 2nd third of the bowl burns, holding it 10 seconds. Exhale and finally hit it to finish the bowl and hold as long as comfortable. Best DMT smoking technique I've found...

03-17-06, 21:48	#11 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Hey cool guys, so it sounds to like it's a good idea to have more in the bowl than not enough. I'll do the smaller tokes and hold as you suggest Marsofold, I don't want to cough out a big hit if I can do a few smaller ones. I like how you put it PB "Once it hits you, you will most likely stop hitting it" I can't wait!!

03-17-06, 22:06	#13 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Great pics Waylit, some cool artwork indeed!

03-17-06, 22:08	#15 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=5653 (Marsofold's DMT Extraction tek & results....) Works like a charm

03-17-06, 22:16	#16 (permalink)
shadyfigure Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 271	thanks man, i've been wanting to try this. Any tips?

03-17-06, 22:23	#17 (permalink)
TheAngryGolfer Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 379	2 "pin scoops" is too little. you need about 50 mg for a proper dose. its tough to eyeball it because it generally looks like more than it is. theres a few ways to smoke it. I have never seen one of those "classic DMT pipes" they describe on some of those old FAQs on erowid and shit (if someone has one please post a pic, I want to get one custom made)... the two main ways are in a regular pipe, sandwiched between ash, parsely, weed or whatever, or in a one of those pipes they use for smoking meth I think.... they are like a glass tube with a ball on the end with a little hole on top, these are usually refered to as a base pipe. with the base pipe you heat it from the bottom, causing the DMT to melt and then boil/vaporize. I was a big believer in the base pipe... but yesterday I had my strongest trip ever using a regular pipe and parsely. I just actually ordered a lord of the rings style pipe from shivadas that I will be using for DMT only... I dunno it just fits. when you use the regular pipe, try to hold the flame slightly above the stuff, not actually touching. after a while you will get smoke from the spice (and also the parsely). take 3 or 4 hits like that and you should be good. BTW how big was your yield and what vendor did you get your MHRB from?

03-17-06, 22:38	#18 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	I used 100 grams of mhrb I won from an old raffle here on mycotopia. I used Marsofolds calculator to do the scale down math for me: http://iff.worldfreeweb.com/d/marsocalc.php I'll let you know about weight tomorrow when I'm 100% sure it's dry from ammonia. I also used Marsofolds latest advice I read in the basification thread about freezing the naptha in a baking pan and pouring out the naptha without filtering through a coffee filter. I'd say 99% of it stuck to the pan, easy to scrape up once dried btw. A ballpark guess of weight from my experience eyeballing powder would be .4, but that is just a guess.

03-17-06, 23:04	#20 (permalink)
lyqwyd Mycotopiate Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 492	waylit, the second and the last pic look very familiar....

03-18-06, 01:09	#21 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,936	The artist is Brahma. __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

03-18-06, 10:15	#26 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Ah, cool, thanks AG

03-18-06, 11:23	#28 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Hehee... Isn't it funny that I didn't even know what I had for sure. Well 2 hours till blast off!

03-18-06, 11:35	#29 (permalink)
reverend trips Rock'n'Roll Outlaw Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,363	Hey guys, sorry for all the questions but is this going to drag me out after? Will I be able to do shit later tonight like maybe have some beers and eat some mushies? Thanks again!

03-18-06, 11:36	#30 (permalink)
TheAngryGolfer Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 379	good luck man... post a trip report