First post, growing palenque on straw

deloun · 04-13-07, 08:26

Hi this is my first post on this forum. What a great site with a lot of cool stuff about this great hobby!

I've cultivated shrooms once before about three years ago on cased rye. So after all this time i thought it's about time to pick up this great hobby again.

But this time I wanted to do it in a bulk way and i want to keep it simple but effective. So I decided to spawn colonized rye to straw without casing in a simple tub closed with see-through plastic on top tied with elastic band and two black garbage bags on top of that to keep it dark as long as the mycelium is still growing.
Dimensions of the tub are: HxWxD: 29x34x50cm / 11.5x13.5x20 inches

The moisture of the straw seems to suffice to keep the humidity high enough, the hygrometer constantly points at about 95% and I never misted or anything. Once a day I open it up to fan it with a piece of cardboard. When the shrooms appear I'll fan it twice a day because of the CO2 they produce.

I've used these three 1000ml jars of colonized rye that I had innoculated with palenque spores and kept in the incubator at around 27 C till they were colonized enough and spawned them at thursday the 5th of April to the straw.

This is the straw spawned with rye 4 days later, on the 9th of april. The layer of straw is about 8-10cm / 3-4 inches thick.

6 days after spawning on the 11th of april.

This is what it looks like today, 8 days after spawning.

As you can see, at this time the straw has colonized quite far so I hope that all goes well and that the first pins will appear soon.

~Hippie3 · 04-13-07, 08:29

where did your pics go ?

deloun · 04-13-07, 08:37

What do you mean? You can't see them?

golly · 04-13-07, 09:14

I'm going blind too...
Keep things well ventilated as Straw in tubs can be challenging..
Gluk and Welcome to Topia

yerbaadam · 04-13-07, 10:19

lookinG aWs0me!!!

My onLy adViced FOr nExt tiME is That yoU WILL HAVE A FAsTer collOnizaTion if y0u chOp the Straw firSt into 1-3 iNch pieceS. Foaf uSes a lEaf muLcher. Cost hiM abOut $20.

Keep uS upDated.

>yoUr friEnd anD servAnt,
nAscAR denDriTE duDLey

04-13-07, 11:18

Hiii, great job on a nice write up, !
ive got the same set up going on, (except cased)
and they are pinning up pretty nice
do you mind if i post some pinning pics here?
since yours will be awhile in coming
they are palenques as well..
maybe we can compare cased and uncased..

Ive heard a few negative things about
the Palenques, bout how they taste nasty
and arent very potent..
do you know anyone thats tried them?

safTman · 04-13-07, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerbaadam

lookinG aWs0me!!!

My onLy adViced FOr nExt tiME is That yoU WILL HAVE A FAsTer collOnizaTion if y0u chOp the Straw firSt into 1-3 iNch pieceS. Foaf uSes a lEaf muLcher. Cost hiM abOut $20.

Keep uS upDated.

>yoUr friEnd anD servAnt,
nAscAR denDriTE duDLey

agreed plus more spawn on top
looking good

Welcome to Mycotopia!!

~Hippie3 · 04-14-07, 08:12

looks good now.

deloun · 04-14-07, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

looks good now.

Ok, nice.

Although guests seem not able to see the pics in between the text, maybe because I linked the urls of the pics to the attachments in the edit section in stead of the preview section.
Which may also be the cause of the pics totally failing at first.

But anyway I know now how to do it next time.

deloun · 04-14-07, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerbaadam

lookinG aWs0me!!!

My onLy adViced FOr nExt tiME is That yoU WILL HAVE A FAsTer collOnizaTion if y0u chOp the Straw firSt into 1-3 iNch pieceS. Foaf uSes a lEaf muLcher. Cost hiM abOut $20.

Keep uS upDated.

>yoUr friEnd anD servAnt,
nAscAR denDriTE duDLey

Well I tried to cut them all with scissors at about 4 inches but I guess there are a bunch that escaped the scissors. Though it seems a good idea to cut them smaller next time, so I'll try that next time.

deloun · 04-14-07, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaGoon

Hiii, great job on a nice write up, !
ive got the same set up going on, (except cased)
and they are pinning up pretty nice
do you mind if i post some pinning pics here?
since yours will be awhile in coming
they are palenques as well..
maybe we can compare cased and uncased..

Ive heard a few negative things about
the Palenques, bout how they taste nasty
and arent very potent..
do you know anyone thats tried them?

Thanks, no I don't mind at all I'd like to see your pics so go ahead.

Yeah cool to compare I'm curious, how big is your tub?

Well in a smartshop in Rotterdam, Holland the mexican species they sell there are palenque and I've eaten a portion of 35 grams fresh of them several times and they taste good. I think not much different then other cubes. I think potency is just average.

Quine · 04-14-07, 17:35

WHat sort of containers are those you have the rye in?

deloun · 04-14-07, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quine

WHat sort of containers are those you have the rye in?

Those are 1 liter polypropylene jars with filter already fitted, they are called microboxes. Since I live in the Netherlands I bought them at a dutch supplier (I think it's not appropriate to call the name considering it's not a sponsor) but you can also buy them at Sporeworks

Follow this link for them:
http://sporeworks.com/store/product....2&cat=0&page=1

deloun · 04-18-07, 05:03

Azarius (also sponsor atm) also sells them, at the time I wanted to buy them at Azarius they were sold out but they seem to have them back in stock atm.

deloun · 04-18-07, 15:20

Waiting for the pins...

dinosaur · 04-18-07, 18:16

Nice job

Green~Thang · 04-19-07, 22:06

Nominated for Pic o' the Month April'07

mycobri · 04-19-07, 22:44

cant wait to see

im hoping you get some bigguns!

04-20-07, 02:18

HEY! lookin sharp, man!
the tub (box, really) i had was pretty big..
maybe 19inx14in
whats the size on yours?
are you going to case?
ive got some pics, that havent been uploaded yet..

p.s. and i dunno, i kinda feel like a dick postin pics in yer thread..
ill just wait til youve got yours

kocos · 04-20-07, 02:22

Oh yeah that tub looks very very sweet

Good luck!

shroom_seeker · 04-20-07, 06:16

Should have pins soon... Good Luck!

deloun · 04-20-07, 06:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green~Thang

Nominated for Pic o' the Month April'07

deloun · 04-20-07, 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaGoon

HEY! lookin sharp, man!
the tub (box, really) i had was pretty big..
maybe 19inx14in
whats the size on yours?

Heh mine's almost the same size: 20x13.5 inch

Quote:

are you going to case?

No I leave it uncased since straw seems to hold enough moisture.

Quote:

ive got some pics, that havent been uploaded yet..

p.s. and i dunno, i kinda feel like a dick postin pics in yer thread..
ill just wait til youve got yours

Ok, that's fine with me

How's your palenque doing atm?

deloun · 05-08-07, 09:52

The first pins have appeared! Although it took a little long but that's because the FAE wasn't optimal in this tub so I adjusted it a few days ago and now the pins appeared

I'll post more pics soon...

deloun · 05-08-07, 13:18

Some pics of the first pins.

Some pins that are growing on the garbage bag on the sides.

Ravine · 05-08-07, 18:18

Wow, those are some nice pics. Nice camera too

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04-13-07, 08:37	#3 (permalink)
deloun Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 23	What do you mean? You can't see them?

04-13-07, 09:14	#4 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,227	I'm going blind too... Keep things well ventilated as Straw in tubs can be challenging.. Gluk and Welcome to Topia

04-13-07, 10:19	#5 (permalink)
yerbaadam SpectraL veNtriloQuist Join Date: Jul 1971 Posts: 798	lookinG aWs0me!!! My onLy adViced FOr nExt tiME is That yoU WILL HAVE A FAsTer collOnizaTion if y0u chOp the Straw firSt into 1-3 iNch pieceS. Foaf uSes a lEaf muLcher. Cost hiM abOut $20. Keep uS upDated. >yoUr friEnd anD servAnt, nAscAR denDriTE duDLey

04-13-07, 11:18	#6 (permalink)
~DaGoon Guest Posts: n/a	Hiii, great job on a nice write up, ! ive got the same set up going on, (except cased) and they are pinning up pretty nice do you mind if i post some pinning pics here? since yours will be awhile in coming they are palenques as well.. maybe we can compare cased and uncased.. Ive heard a few negative things about the Palenques, bout how they taste nasty and arent very potent.. do you know anyone thats tried them?

04-14-07, 08:12	#8 (permalink)
~Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 42,765	looks good now.

04-14-07, 17:35	#12 (permalink)
Quine VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 163	WHat sort of containers are those you have the rye in?

04-18-07, 05:03	#14 (permalink)
deloun Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 23	Azarius (also sponsor atm) also sells them, at the time I wanted to buy them at Azarius they were sold out but they seem to have them back in stock atm.

04-18-07, 18:16	#16 (permalink)
dinosaur Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 98	Nice job

04-19-07, 22:06	#17 (permalink)
Green~Thang ShyGuy Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 36	Nominated for Pic o' the Month April'07

04-19-07, 22:44	#18 (permalink)
mycobri Editor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,862	cant wait to see im hoping you get some bigguns!

04-20-07, 02:18	#19 (permalink)
~DaGoon Guest Posts: n/a	HEY! lookin sharp, man! the tub (box, really) i had was pretty big.. maybe 19inx14in whats the size on yours? are you going to case? ive got some pics, that havent been uploaded yet.. p.s. and i dunno, i kinda feel like a dick postin pics in yer thread.. ill just wait til youve got yours

04-20-07, 02:22	#20 (permalink)
kocos The PsYhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,372	Oh yeah that tub looks very very sweet Good luck!

05-08-07, 09:52	#24 (permalink)
deloun Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 23	The first pins have appeared! Although it took a little long but that's because the FAE wasn't optimal in this tub so I adjusted it a few days ago and now the pins appeared I'll post more pics soon...

05-08-07, 18:18	#26 (permalink)
Ravine Witty Title Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 55	Wow, those are some nice pics. Nice camera too