Paris Hilton sentenced to jail

[Doctor D]

Paris Hilton has been sentenced to 45 days in jail for violating the terms of her probation.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/
It's about time Paris learns that she has to follow the rules, too. Let's take a look at her recent driving record:

• Sept. 7th, 2006 - Hilton is arrested for DUI. She pleads no contest to reckless driving, her license is suspended, and she receives receives 36 months probation.
• Jan. 15th, 2007 - Hilton is pulled over by California Highway Patrol. Officers inform her that she is driving on a suspended license. She she signs a document acknowledging that she was not to drive, according to papers filed in Superior Court. (Maybe California is different, but in the states I've lived in, this is a serious misdemeanor driving offense that can result in jailtime in and of itself)
• Feb. 27th, 2007 - L.A. County sheriff’s deputies stop Paris and charge her with violating her probation. The authorities say they saw her car speeding with its headlights off. While Hilton's lawyer says she wasn't aware her license was suspended, a copy of the document Hilton signed on Jan. 15 is found in the car’s glove compartment, court papers say.

Her casual disregard for the law makes me very angry. I'm glad the judge stuck it to her.

As a city prosecutor said during closing arguments that Hilton deserved jail time, Hilton’s mother, Kathy, laughed. When the judge ruled, Kathy Hilton, then blurted out: “May I have your autograph?”

Apparently her mother feels Paris is above the law as well.

[bigdanob]

Get ready for a new sex tape. "Caged Heat @ the Hilton"

[Hippie3]

if she deserves jail
then so do
all of us.

don't hate the rich, the beautiful
just because of who they are
and who you are not.

no one should be locked in a cage
just for driving when a judge says no.

rejoicing at another's misfortune
is bad mojo my friend.

[Doctor D]

I do not hate Paris for being rich and beautiful. There are plenty of rich and beautiful people who do not act so blatantly like they are better than the "little people".

What I dislike is her arrogant attitude that laws do not apply to her. It's not like she HAD to drive, or even that she was making a statement that the law was unjust; she's not dependent upon her car for transportation to and from work. She can certainly afford a cab, a limo, or one of her other rich friends to drive her until her suspension is over.

You are right, of course, that rejoicing in another's misfortune is bad mojo. But Paris lives her life in the press and revels in it. The rules are slightly different in her case.

[FlyvAgaric]

hmm, I bet she is just now realizing that she can't get a manicure in Prison.

[Indica Child]

the jail times gonna cost her some extra plastic surgery for sure. its too bad she'll have body guards or something. i bet she'll fuck half the guards. for publicity.

[Bobcat]

Since her fortune has been brought up: lets just wait and see if she actually does any jail time.

I wouldn't be surprised if she is treated like a celeb by everyone. She is going to come out of the joint with some good material for the next show. Maybe she will see how vagina power can break someones ass down too.

[shroom_seeker]

Ha I don't feel sorry for her ass at all.
She broke the law and was dumb enough to get caught.
Multiple times.

[dial8]

I'd hit it...L7

[hyphaenation]

I'm picturing someone, somewhere saying

Ha I don't feel sorry for his ass at all.
He broke the law and was dumb enough to get caught.
Multiple times... for growing mushrooms and smoking pot

would you still say throw the book at him does he deserves jail? Why is she going to jail, say apposed to having to do community service with real needy people. Why do some of you want blood? Is it jealousy? hatred? ... or both?

In any case jail is a bad place. I'd bet every penny I had that not a single one of the folks wishing this woman to be jailed has been there...

prove me wrong

I think paris is a bitch, I think that jail is an even bigger bitch

H

PS: by the way , those of you that are happy as pie that shes off to jail, I have a news flash... you are paying for every nite she stays there, every meal, every drink every activity...

[Doctor D]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

would you still say throw the book at him he deserves jail? Why is she going to jail, say apposed to having to do community service with real needy people. Why do some of you want blood? Is it jealousy? hatred? ... or both?

A lot of accusations in your post. Is it jealous and hateful to expect that an ingrateful rich snob should get the same punishment as I would, should I decide to similarly thumb my nose at the legal system?

Did you read the thread here about the guy who got caught trying to send mushrooms in a potato chip bag? I didn't see anyone rushing to his defence. What's the difference?

http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=21309 (Mushrooms shipped in potato chip bags - busted)

The judge is saying that Paris has been given repeated chances to make right. She didn't even try. She didn't sign up for her treatment program, she didn't make any attempt to stop driving. She just thumbed her nose at the law as if it didn't apply to her. She's not the only person to go to jail after repeated alcohol/DWS charges. Her sentence is in no way extreme. If you or I were to go to court for the same charges and not appear contrite, there is a good chance we would have gotten the same sort of sentence. And, in all likelihood, she will serve very little of her sentence.

Michelle Rodriguez, of Lost fame, was sentenced to 60 days in jail for violating her alcohol charge with another alcohol charge. She ended up being released from jail the same day she entered. Paris is going to that same jail; it's reasonable to expect a similar result.

Community service is given when the judge feels a person is remorseful about their crime and when they would benefit from it. Perhaps she expected to get community service. That would have been just another day on the set of The Real Life for her. Cameras and gawkers all around. She could go panty-less and cause a big stir in the papers. It would be just another spectacle for her and for us.

Many of us are all too aware of what will happen if we are caught growing mushrooms. That's another discussion in itself. I doubt any of us here will get the opportunity to break our probation twice in 45 days by growing more mushrooms. Regardless of whether it is right or wrong to grow mushrooms, it is against the law. When the day comes that I go to jail for mushrooms, I will not be blaming the judge and prosecutor for my actions.

Hilton wept and her mother, Kathy, yelled at the prosecutor, "You're pathetic," as the packed courtroom cleared.

[hyphaenation]

My point was why are people wishing jail upon her for a traffic offense? I questioned the actual spirit involved in being happy she got jail, rejoicing it... saying she deserved it.

[hyphaenation]

I still think after reredaing the story that jail for driving while suspended is bullshit! A waste of tax payers money and will turn any otherwise normal functioning person into a con artist, thief, liar, and will ,mke them lose all respect for humanity and ...

as anyone whos been to jail knows, jail forces the (jail) population to embrace violence.

[Doctor D]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

My point was why are people wishing jail upon her for a traffic offense? I questioned the actual spirit involved in being happy she got jail, rejoicing it... saying she deserved it.

Well, about the rejoicing, I can only speak for myself in that respect. Hippie admonished me, I admitted he was right, then adjusted my post accordingly. That's all I can say about that.

As far as all the jail jokes, I doubt many of those posters will respond.

As to why she deserves it, my post above touches on that. She deserves it because it's the same sentence that I would get if I were to act in contempt like she did.

[Doctor D]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

I still think after reredaing the story that jail for driving while suspended is bullshit!

You're right, it is bullshit. But it's the same bullshit that a million other U.S. citizens including myself have had to face. She should not be treated differently just because she has all of Hollywood in her Sidekick.

Many Americans routinely go to jail for driving on a suspended license. It's at the very top of the list as far as traffic offenses go.

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

I'm picturing someone, somewhere saying

would you still say throw the book at him does he deserves jail? Why is she going to jail, say apposed to having to do community service with real needy people. Why do some of you want blood? Is it jealousy? hatred? ... or both?

In any case jail is a bad place. I'd bet every penny I had that not a single one of the folks wishing this woman to be jailed has been there...

prove me wrong

I think paris is a bitch, I think that jail is an even bigger bitch

H

PS: by the way , those of you that are happy as pie that shes off to jail, I have a news flash... you are paying for every nite she stays there, every meal, every drink every activity...

glad someone feels as i do.

[joey_megabucks]

she needs to be punished with community service. she can start by polishing my knob every day for 6 months.

[Hippie3]

Is it jealous and hateful to expect that an ingrateful rich snob should get the same punishment as I would, should I decide to similarly thumb my nose at the legal system?

in a word, yes.
it shows a fundamental lack of empathy.

for example,
if this was your mother
would you want her to get
the same punishment that you would ?
of course not, because you love her.

a compassionate person wishes
better for others
than they get themselves,
as in how we all want
our kids to have it better than we did.
again, because we love them.

it's mercy and empathy and compassion
that is quite obviously missing from your
attitude towards paris,
instead you say you just want her to
have it every bit as bad as you would get,
no mercy, no break.
but in my opinion
that is not how we should be
towards another human being.

loving your enemy is the goal, right ?
or at least be neutral .
but to cheer on the pigs
as they drag her off to jail
is just hard, even malicious.

you call her
an ungrateful rich snob
as if that somehow justifies
criminal confinement.

but you don't even know her,
and i daresay
if being an asshole is enough
to merit confinement
then we're all in trouble.

[Doctor D]

I do not see this thread as being all that different from the "Death to Imus" thread started a few weeks ago. He lost $40 million; her brief incarceration won't be so costly. And Paris is a racist, too ya know.

Why was revenge sweet in that thread but not in this one?

[Hippie3]

imus didn't get locked in a cage.

as i see it
caging humans is fundamentally wrong.
it's cruel, inhumane -
prolonged torture.

i never called for imus to be tortured,
i said that he had breached the public trust
and should not be given the microphone
at a FCC-licensed publically-owned network.
i said that he should
go back to his ranch and do good works.

and i'd have no problem with
the same for paris-
say 45 days of
house arrest, ankle braclet, drug/alcohol tests.
that would get her attention.
and some community service along with a healthy fine
and an extension of her suspension from driving.
that's plenty harsh.

[Bobcat]

I don't know what she deserves or doesn't deserve. But I hope she wakes up and figures stuff out at some point. Or she'll soon realize that youth and beauty and fame are fleeting. She'll always be rich, but if your born rich its not such a big deal. Not as big a deal as looking back at your life and seeing trashy reality tv, internet porn, media clam shots with brittany, failed movie and music careers.. etc, etc. Not as big a deal as all the jokes about her that'll start to hurt when no one remembers her anymore.

Yeah, I dunno. I wish her the best. But I fear far greater 'punishments' are in her future than what that judge has ordered.

[shroom_seeker]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

I'm picturing someone, somewhere saying

Quote:
Ha I don't feel sorry for his ass at all.
He broke the law and was dumb enough to get caught.
Multiple times... for growing mushrooms and smoking pot

would you still say throw the book at him does he deserves jail? Why is she going to jail, say apposed to having to do community service with real needy people. Why do some of you want blood? Is it jealousy? hatred? ... or both?

YES! If someone is caught multiple times for growing mushrooms and smoking pot I'd say its a pretty safe to say they deserve jail. Does that blow your mind?! Society lives by a set of laws, if you don't like them go somewhere else. I myself (as well as many others on this site) are perfectly aware of the penalties we face for growing. And I can tell you this: If I was busted, I sure as hell wouldn't be dumb enough to be busted again, let alone two more times, and then try pulling some dumb shit over on the cop.

Don't accuse me of jealousy or hatred. Paris originally got herself into trouble for a DUI - an offense that kills. She broke the law, was dumb enough to get busted again, and she should be judged with the same standards as anybody else.

Don't get it twisted my friend, I actually quite like Paris..

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

PS: by the way , those of you that are happy as pie that shes off to jail, I have a news flash... you are paying for every nite she stays there, every meal, every drink every activity...

Do you think that is some sort of revolutionary statement? Thanks so much for the enlightenment, I never would have guessed that are criminal justice system is totally fucked!!

[Doctor D]

Originally Posted by shroom_seeker

Don't get it twisted my friend, I actually quite like Paris..

I think she's HOT.

(Well someone had to say it!)

Originally Posted by shroom_seeker

Paris originally got herself into trouble for a DUI - an offense that kills. She broke the law, was dumb enough to get busted again, and she should be judged with the same standards as anybody else.

Not to mention, she's been involved in two minor hit-and-run accidents as well. One in which she was driving, the other when she was a passenger.

[Hippie3]

why even mention an accident in which she was a
passenger ?

talk about hypocrisy,
if it was
your ass
on the line,
any of you,
you'd be all in favor of some slack
for yourself,
not a one of you
would stand in front of the judge
and say
'hey judge-
i'm a dumb bastard
who should
have known better
so just send my ass to jail please'.

[shroom_seeker]

Yeah Hip, you're right. I certainly wouldn't stand in front of the judge and say:

hey judge i'm a dumb bastard who should
have known better so just send my ass to jail please

lmao

But, I would do the time if convicted. And I can guarantee you my family and friends wouldn't be in the court room heckling the prosecution if that was the case.

[Hippie3]

with today's technology
i think that
imprisonment has become
essentially obsolete,
except perhaps for the
criminally insane / violent predators.

instead of jail for minor offenses
there just is no reason why an offender
can't be given
house arrest
and 24 / 7 monitoring by GPS
and
various sensors to monitor her 'condition',
perhaps even
video surveillance in her home.

the cost to society would be less than
imprisonment,
the conditions of
confinement
would be more humane,
and the undesirable side-effects of
incarceration
upon physical / mental health largely avoided,
which is beneficial
both to the individual
and to society in general.

It is so true that it is much cheaper. Why spend money when the guilty can. The judge has that option but draconian punishment is what the judge wants her to suffer. California has its jails so full they are going to reverse some sentencing laws to relieve the burden. The legal system also like jails because we can lock up our minorities. The system is not only cruel it is discriminatory.

[aumbrellaforainydays]

AYe to the two posts above couldn't agree with u more...

but if prisons really want to be self-sustained financially without our dollars, we could sell scripts of celebrities in prison or rehab to reality tv stations. i can see it, Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie in "Simple for Life" how will the two deal with gustapo guards, women gangs, and bad food and even plainer clothing. watch next season on fox.

[shroom_seeker]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

instead of jail for minor offenses
there just is no reason why an offender
can't be given house arrest
and 24 / 7 monitoring by GPS

On this point Hip I'm in complete agreement with you.

I studied criminal justice for two years, and spent much time examining police technologies. You might be surprised how much it costs to implement a system using GPS technology, specifically a system to keep people on house arrest. Plus, there are drawbacks and problems with the system. Regardless, house arrest will become much more prominent in the future (it is now) along with other crazy-ass policing methods (which might scare the pants off of many of us).

The problem is, we're still dumping billions if not trillions into the criminal justice system. While part of our society is decriminalizing things such as personal marijuana use and decreasing the penalities to perhaps a citation, a much larger wave is moving towards a future where the man/machine will be watching us with a close eye. Plus, theres still the problem of what we should do with the millions of people in prison for "minor offenses".

[hyphaenation]

I don't like the woman. I don't like her look, her voice, her makeup. Lots of things strike me the wrong way about the heiress. I'll tell you though in all honesty when I went to see the story and saw her face in the picture I felt empathy for her.

I pictured what it was like in jail (even minimum security), the racism, the hatred, the foul mouthed , low-IQ, violence and I said to myself, why is a non-violent offender going to jail. What does it mean to an old dude like me, bust 3 times for petty pot charges over the last 20 years, twice for a single gram.

Next time i'm busted for smoking a pipe while fishing because of bad timimg will the crowd start chanting "give em the cell, give em the cell!" "lock em up !, lock em up!"

Is there double standards at play here? Or what !?

Whats with this sudden law and order kick with some people. You do know that America already has the most people per capita in jail out of any country in the free world right? Do you really think sending non-violent offenders like pot criminals and probation violators like Paris to the clink is beneficial? If so name one benefit of sending someone like that to prison.

Who gains? When a non-violent offender like someone busted with driving while disqualified is sent to jail? ... or someone busted with a few jars of mycelium and fruit.

Jail is for violent, dangerous offenders. Why was'nt Paris's license pulled for a long period, heavy fine, meaningful community services and other non-jail options?

I hope none of you end up in jail, i'm serious to, I really hope not.

Its a horrible place , stagnant and bordering on evil. Theres light in there , but its VERY dim.

peace

H

[Doctor D]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

instead of jail for minor offenses
there just is no reason why an offender
can't be given
house arrest
and 24 / 7 monitoring by GPS
and
various sensors to monitor her 'condition',
perhaps even
video surveillance in her home.

This is an interesting idea, but I have a lot of questions about how it would be implemented. Obviously you'd have to make an allowance for the arrestee to be allowed to go to work, otherwise the person would starve within their own house.

Right now, I'm guessing house arrest is up to the judge's discretion. If it was our primary method of punishment for nonviolent criminals, then the severity of punishment would depend upon the financial well-being of the person convicted.

So Paris, for example, would have 45 days in a palatial estate with HDTV, plush couches, a swimming pool, and a jacuzzi. A poor person living in a rented 2-bedroom apartment would spend his 45 days with far less. This would only serve to highlight the inequalities in our justice system.

Jail may be torture (that's another discussion), but at least it is an equalizer. "Equal justice under law", isn't that the principle we're supposed to aspire to in our legal system?

[Tsering]

"Simple for Life"

C'mon man, we're supposed to punish Paris, not American television audiences.

But in all seriousness I agree with Hip, the prison system is unnecessarily cruel and should only exist to isolate the major menaces to society. Have a friend in jail right now for a DUI, wouldn't wish it on anyone, and frankly I wouldn't think that people on this forum would be rooting for folks to go to jail.

[hyphaenation]

People have a wrong preception of jail... like its a country club.

It Aint

[Hippie3]

nothing in our constitution about
financial equality,
perhaps you're thinking of the
soviet union ?

even in jail
it's a fact that the
wealthy still get better treatment.
money has power and influence, connections.
that's the reality even now,
martha stewart for example.

so i don't see it as that big of an issue.
pretty sure even that guy
in the rented two-room flat
still prefers it over a
cell.
and really that should be as far
as his concerns go,
his own circumstances,
not what someone else has.

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

People have a wrong preception of jail... like its a country club.

It Aint

hyphen-
you missed a twist in the conversation.
that snippet was about
house arrest,
not jail.

[shroom_seeker]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

Doctor D , which jail have you been sentenced to that had this ?

Dude, maybe you should take a minute and read his post. Doctor D is talking about if Paris was on house arrest vs. the average citizen.

[Nabby]

The law happens to good people, and many laws I do not agree with, but things like this, with alcohol, are how I'd like to see all drugs handled. What you're doing to yourself is your own business, and you're legally allowed to consume alcohol, but when you do something because of it that endangers others, in this case, driving intoxicated, the law should step in to do something about it. Giving her probation and suspending her license sounds very reasonable to me. But now that she has proven that she will not live up to the terms of her sentence on her own, so she needs to be put somewhere for a while where the government can keep an eye on her until she learns how serious this is. Though I'll concede that house arrest would have been just as effective. This is how it should be for everyone.

[Nabby]

Since hippie mentioned Martha Stewart, I'd like to tell a quick story that might give you all a chuckle... once upon a time, I was working for Sears, in the hardware department, and we carried the Martha Stewart line of house paints. She had just been locked up, and we had a customer come in to looking for paints, and our salesperson said, "I'm sorry, that line of paints now only comes in black and white and county orange."

[shroom_seeker]

That's pretty good Nabby.

perhaps even video surveillance

We've already got it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA621_F3bKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY8oL...elated&search=

[hyphaenation]

I did misread part of that but I still wanted to make the point that jail is rough and should'nt be wished on anyone except the hopeless and violent.

paris hilton sentenced to jail

AHAHAHAHA
oh D *wipes tear from eye*
everything you say is classic, always gets me laughin

maybe everyone wants her blood because she is betraying her "role model" status

or she is proving an example for people who are role models. proving some times no one can help you, no matter how great you are

[shroom_seeker]

Originally Posted by DaGoon

maybe everyone wants her blood because she is betraying her "role model" status

To me it has nothing to do with whether or not Paris is a "role model".
If you view her as an "equal" it is obvious that Paris broke the law, violated probation, and deserves whatever sentence she receives.
The judge is not setting an example in this case; Paris is doing that all by herself.

California is a very punitive state, traffic fines are sickeningly expensive. What gets me is that MADD has pushed the politicians into making the penalties for DUI very nasty. Yet there are studies showing that DUI in most cases isn't any more of an impairment than using a cell phone. I cannot see any sentencing laws being passed that will slam a cell phone user as a DUI.

That says cruel and unusual to me.

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by shroom_seeker

To me it has nothing to do with whether or not Paris is a "role model".
If you view her as an "equal" it is obvious that Paris broke the law, violated probation, and deserves whatever sentence she receives.
The judge is not setting an example in this case; Paris is doing that all by herself.

i don't agree,
the judge had many sentencing options
including house arrest
yet he chose the harshest one.
this despite the fact that
during her breach of probation
no accident occured,
no drugs or alcohol were involved, etc.

seems pretty clear that this judge is
making an example out of her,
treating her
more harshly than
other would be treated
in similar situations.

that is the reverse of your claims,
in this case
her wealth and fame are being
held against her.

this judge is getting famous
as the law-and-order judge
who lowered the boom
on bad-girl paris hilton,
he is pandering politically
to the
far right morality-police.

[shroom_seeker]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

in this case
her wealth and fame are being
held against her.

Thats nothing more than a speculation.
This started with a DUI.
Paris violated her probation 4 months later.
and AGAIN, 1.5 months later.
She can play dumb and say she didn't know her license was suspended,
but that kind of BS only asks for a harsher sentence.
And if you have any doubt about her abilities on the road
just check the two links I provided above.
Pretty cut-and-dry if you ask me..

Don't get mad get even. Paris could do a XXX movie and do a special on the judge, maybe some kinky bailiff action.

[shroom_seeker]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

this judge is getting famous
as the law-and-order judge
who lowered the boom
of bad-girl paris hilton,
he is pandering politically
to the
far right morality-police.

Thats rediculous - this judge probably doesn't even want this case.
and now is criticised for doing his job.
Paris has been in the spotlight for years now.
I don't think blaming the judge is the answer for what is bound to happen
when someone who lives in the media breaks the law
and is punished accordingly so.

[Hippie3]

her 'guilt' may be cut-and-dried
but the penalty was NOT.

as i stated correctly
there was no requirement to send her to jail,
no mandatory minimum to satisfy.
he had several choices.
he chose to be as harsh as possible.

the actual issue is the probation violation itself,
not the original offense.
the violation did NOT involve any accidents nor alcohol.

it's a technical violation sure,
but thousands of such infractions
get overlooked
on a daily basis
in our judicial system,
few probation violations result in a
go-directly-to-jail penalty
unless the violation was actually
another criminal offense.
this i know from experience.

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by shroom_seeker

Thats rediculous - this judge probably doesn't even want this case...

now who's
speculating ?


her relationship with the media spotlight
should not be of any relevance
in her sentence,
it's not an
aggravating circumstance, legally,
to be famous.


to me
this is just like
how tommy chong
got rail-roaded to prison
for selling his smoking accessories.
he was made into an example
because of who he was
more than for what he actually did.

who here
would call tommy a dumb bastard
who should have known better
and insist that prison was the right penalty
for his crime ???

same here with paris.