This Pisses me off

[chrisandstepheny]

http://www.talkingaboutcannabis.com/TheFacts.htm

This shit is fucking retared and pissed me off. So, I'm sharing it all with you. Have fun laughing how bogus there facts. As you can see it say cannibus the facts. Facts my ass!

[CoyoteMesc]

Calm down before you stroke out..

Im having a hard time finding the bogus facts. Can you identify them for me?

[weed4all]

im also having a hard time finding any, most of what they say is true to an extent. also, you dont need to be so vulger

[lysergic]

This pamphlet is very misleading, and twists the facts.


First of all, neurotransmitters are NOT "the brain's natural drugs."

Second: "Fifty percent of the THC is still there after a week and ten per cent a month later."

This statement is misleading. The amount of THC in your body depends on numerous factors, including individual metabolism , and amount smoked. THC has a half-life of 30 hrs. This means that your body will metabolize half of whatever amount of THC you smoked in 30 hrs (a lot less than one week). So if you smoke 10mg THC, in 30 hrs, there will be only 10mg left, and in 30 more hrs there will be 5mg left etc..

Third: "If you have a joint today you should not be driving tomorrow"

This statement is ridiculous, just because there may be THC in the system that has not been metabolized, does not mean it is active. Drugs are only active while they are bound to receptor sites: when you come down, and are no longer "stoned," THC will no longer impair motor abilities.


Fourth: "Physical addiction occurs. As more and more THC is consumed, more receptor sites are made, tolerance builds as more THC is needed to get the same effect."

More misleading bullshit: Tolerance does not equal addiction. This is equivalent of saying that because you have a tolerance to alcohol, that you are an alcoholic.

Fifth: "Just one joint per week or even once a month will ensure a permanent presence of THC."

Cessation of smoking will rid the body of this "permanent presence of THC" within a few weeks


Sixth: "Cannabis increases the amount of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the brain."

Any pleasurable experience will increase the amount of dopamine in the brain.


Last: "Cannabis contains more cancer-causing substances than tobacco, its smoke deposits three to four times as much tar in the lungs and airways. Cases of lung cancer, bronchitis and emphysema have been reported."

The reason tobacco smokers have high rates of cancer is because of the presence of lead 210 and polonium 210 (which are radioactive) in tobacco smoke. These are not present in cannabis smoke. THC has actually been shown to KILL CANCER CELLS and TUMORS.

[Doctor D]

Just one joint per week or even once a month will ensure a permanent presence of THC. Since the other neurotransmitters are affected, new nerve connections cannot be made properly. Concentration, learning and memory are all badly affected. School grades fall, some students miss out on university places. A cannabis personality develops. Users become inflexible, can’t plan their days properly, can’t take criticism and struggle to express themselves. They feel lonely, miserable and misunderstood. Apathy, amotivation and dropping out are all common.

Lovely scare tactics! "Smoke pot and your life will be RUINED!"

[waffleinajar]

I'v only read the first line so far, and I'm already convinced that they're fucking retarded.

Cannabis (marijuana, pot, grass, weed, joints, spliff, hashish, blow) is a hallucinogen, a depressant and our commonest illegal drug.

commonest isnt a word. How can they talk about the advanced functions of biochemistry if they dont know how write "most common".

[chrisandstepheny]

Thanks, lysergic for clearing up the facts for people who don't keep up with research(no malaise intended I don't expect anybody to be an expert). But, I assumed it was obvious . But assuming makes an ass out of u and me.(ass - u- me) Any way, the reason it pisses me off so much it that most people don't do any real research and see this and think it's correct. I know there is no way to stop it. But I need to vent before I meet the ignorant fool and blow my top cause cause yes I'm a little short tempered. ( it's the red hair)

Secondly, if you want some real facts try this link:
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7002

[lysergic]

I'm right there with you chris..

I posted this a while ago, but here are some FACTS about medicinal cannabis/THC. This is a research paper I wrote last year for a university research class whose topic was cannabis. Unlike this "factual" pamphlet, I have cited sources for my research.

[dizzydank]

def a load of crap.

[CoyoteMesc]

Originally Posted by lysergic

This pamphlet is very misleading, and twists the facts.


First of all, neurotransmitters are NOT "the brain's natural drugs."

Second: "Fifty percent of the THC is still there after a week and ten per cent a month later."

This statement is misleading. The amount of THC in your body depends on numerous factors, including individual metabolism , and amount smoked. THC has a half-life of 30 hrs. This means that your body will metabolize half of whatever amount of THC you smoked in 30 hrs (a lot less than one week). So if you smoke 10mg THC, in 30 hrs, there will be only 10mg left, and in 30 more hrs there will be 5mg left etc..

Third: "If you have a joint today you should not be driving tomorrow"

This statement is ridiculous, just because there may be THC in the system that has not been metabolized, does not mean it is active. Drugs are only active while they are bound to receptor sites: when you come down, and are no longer "stoned," THC will no longer impair motor abilities.


Fourth: "Physical addiction occurs. As more and more THC is consumed, more receptor sites are made, tolerance builds as more THC is needed to get the same effect."


More misleading bullshit: Tolerance does not equal addiction. This is equivalent of saying that because you have a tolerance to alcohol, that you are an alcoholic.

Fifth: "Just one joint per week or even once a month will ensure a permanent presence of THC."

Cessation of smoking will rid the body of this "permanent presence of THC" within a few weeks


Sixth: "Cannabis increases the amount of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the brain."

Any pleasurable experience will increase the amount of dopamine in the brain.


Last: "Cannabis contains more cancer-causing substances than tobacco, its smoke deposits three to four times as much tar in the lungs and airways. Cases of lung cancer, bronchitis and emphysema have been reported."

The reason tobacco smokers have high rates of cancer is because of the presence of lead 210 and polonium 210 (which are radioactive) in tobacco smoke. These are not present in cannabis smoke. THC has actually been shown to KILL CANCER CELLS and TUMORS.

First = yes they are. Amino acids and peptides are just two examples.

Second = your right BUT, its not bogus...just misleading.

third = as you mention your thoughts about number 2 the same applies for this one. Although one may not be 'stone' the effects of exhaustion, lack of concentration etc can vary from person to person.

fourth =

More misleading bullshit: Tolerance does not equal addiction. This is equivalent of saying that because you have a tolerance to alcohol, that you are an alcoholic.

You misread the paragraph you posted, and or only left out the first part. This is what you quoted:

"Physical addiction occurs. As more and more THC is consumed, more receptor sites are made, tolerance builds as more THC is needed to get the same effect."

which in many cases this it true.
Stop smoking pot and see how long it takes for you feel withdrawal. Thats physical addiction.

fifth = common man, read what you quoted. Not counting if you take shit to clean your system...lol

Sixth= just because many other things in life cause your brain to excrete dopamine , that doesnt make their statement false or bogus...just weak

last= i dont need to comment on the cancer. Smoke and tar causes lung cancer.



Look guys im not saying that i think peeps shouldn't smoke pot, etc, etc. I agree that the article is exaggerated and misleading. Thats what those folks do. Thats what the media does. Its nothing new. The shit sucks but thats the world we live in. My only suggestion was to calm down and add that the article was not flat out lying (bogus) as the thread starter claim.

I grow smoke, I grow booomer, I disagree with the laws that pertain to many/most drugs in general.

And now I think I will stop

[GordianHyphae]

I think what I find most offensive is this bit:

Users become inflexible, can’t plan their days properly, can’t take criticism and struggle to express themselves. They feel lonely, miserable and misunderstood. Apathy, amotivation and dropping out are all common.

Few children, using cannabis even occasionally, will achieve their full potential.

Funny, cause I was much more lonely, miserable, and misunderstood before I started toking. As for expressing myself, well, every piece of music that I've written that's worth a damn (as well as every university research paper for that mater) owes a bit of its spark to cannabis.

Also, ummm....

Cannabis causes far more mental illness than drugs like heroin.

I'd like a citation, please.

Also, here's a bit of funny logic:

Cannabis increases the amount of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the brain. Schizophrenics have an excess of dopamine in the brain, sufferers of Parkinson’s disease, too little.

So, okay, = high dopamine. Schizophrenia = high dopamine. Therefore = Schizo! Whee!

I guess what pisses me off most is the title of the piece: "The Facts". Sure, there's some facts there. but like Twain says, "Get your facts straight. Then you can distort them however you please" The facts spring from nowhere (no citations) with the voice of authority and with the intention of making weed seem dangerous and evil. The peeps on this board know lots of facts too, and many of us choose to use cannabis *because* of those facts. Things like the absolute impossibility of overdosing on cannabis, or the fact that for many, cannabis use helps a person lead a happy, relaxed life. Or that for many, it is the only effective medication without damaging side effects. Or the fact that it has been used for the entirety of recorded history and was the raw material of countless industries before petroleum supplanted it.

Here's a collection of facts (with citation, thank you) that I find much more interesting: http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html

So, in conclusion.
: rasta:

[Hippie3]

This shit is fucking retared

you mis-spelled retarded.