Mena Arkansas - Whats Falling From The Sky ?

[hyphaenation]

Look mommy theres an airplane up in the sky... and theres something falling from it. A package. Oh what could it be ?

This begins the story of mystery night flights over and around the airforce base in Mena Arkansas. Its a murder mystery of the highest, cruelest order.

Check these videos if you have time. The basic premise is the US government "allowing" its base in Arkansas to be the staging area for a massive cocaine importation operation.

See what you think.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdaiWHzrXLY part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRxXu...eature=related part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOfI...eature=related part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1qCHYoX7Jo part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01y9o...eature=related part 6

[Hippie3]

proly just 'blue ice' [airline wastes]
i think it's silly to think that the govt would resort to flying coca to arkansas
when it could bring it in by submarine at norfolk underwater

[Myco_mystro]

My High School Civics/Economics teacher showed the class a movie with these video segments back in 2003. I didn't look at all of the links but it is truly corrupt to the brink! The video my teach showed had FBI surveillance video of former President Bill Clinton's brother snorting cocaine. The very same cocaine that lead to the deaths of two innocent young men and payed for Bill Clinton's rise to presidency! It's sick and wrong! This sort of stuff makes my blood boil!

[TVCasualty]

Maybe the Mal-Wart execs in Little Rock need express delivery to stay up all night planning world economic domination? Hmm, Little "Rock?" Is that a code?

Smugglers also just drive it in along the Mexican border. When I lived in AZ, my family thought I was nuts when they talked about the "War on Drugs" and I'd tell them that 18 wheelers full of the Flavor of the Week just come in late at night through one of the smaller crossings, and the agent weighs the truck to determine the required payment. Then a couple of years ago a bunch of Border Patrol agents around Nogales got busted doing precisely that. Now my family is concerned about how I knew that.


And I've heard people refer to those blue ice chunks that fall off airplanes as "ICBM's" before.

[Lazlo]

I know this guy that found a block of coke wrapped up in plastic that had 25 kilograms within it. He, his wife and another couple were walking the beach on their daily morning walk when he or I should say they found it. They turned it in to police. A few days later 2 more were found on the beach within a 20 or 30 mile run. I wonder what he would've done if he found it by himself? lol

[prism1234]

Originally Posted by Lazlo

I know this guy that found a block of coke wrapped up in plastic that had 25 kilograms within it. He, his wife and another couple were walking the beach on their daily morning walk when he or I should say they found it. They turned it in to police. A few days later 2 more were found on the beach within a 20 or 30 mile run. I wonder what he would've done if he found it by himself? lol

I would have had to tax the brick a bit.... No need for the whole thing, but a pocketful or two...

[Lazlo]

It would've been tempting.

Marshall's told them that nearly all of the wash ups are a result of runner's getting spooked and then pitching the load off of the plane or boat.

[Lookyhere]

Coke is always washing up on the beaches in Florida. It happens a LOT. Had I found that 25 kilos, I woulda kept the whole thing.... That's a nice retirement, just have to be careful and not talk to people you don't know very well.

[Hippie3]

plz don't talk about dealing drugs here...

[August West]

Originally Posted by hyphaenation

Look mommy theres an airplane up in the sky... and theres something falling from it. A package. Oh what could it be ?
This begins the story of mystery night flights over and around the airforce base in Mena Arkansas. Its a murder mystery of the highest, cruelest order.
Check these videos if you have time. The basic premise is the US government "allowing" its base in Arkansas to be the staging area for a massive cocaine importation operation.
See what you think.

I haven't watched the vids you reference but there's no shortage of info out there on this one...
the drugs were moved on C-130's that were on loan to and then "stolen" from the forest service (can't have the CIA involved with stolen planes). Clinton was, of course governor of Arkansas at the time. There's no shortage of shadiness with this story - DEA and Air Force personel "committing suicide" as they were trying to move this info up the chain of command. Just another day at the office during the Reagan/Bush years.

[lucysd]

aliens are in charge
they are running everything
what we think is coke
is really an alien genetic descrambler
slowly over generations
breaking down all of our nucleotides
till all we are left with are single strands of pure guanine
lmao

[MycoChondria]

mmmmm....Cytosine aggghhhhhhhrhg...

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by August West

I haven't watched the vids you reference but there's no shortage of info out there on this one...
the drugs were moved on C-130's that were on loan to and then "stolen" from the forest service (can't have the CIA involved with stolen planes). Clinton was, of course governor of Arkansas at the time. There's no shortage of shadiness with this story - DEA and Air Force personel "committing suicide" as they were trying to move this info up the chain of command. Just another day at the office during the Reagan/Bush years.

repeating bullshit won't make it true...

[August West]

is it because you call bullshit or the government calls bullshit that I shouldn't believe this story?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA...stigation.html

http://fromthewilderness.com/free/pa...ice_c130s.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=Cwi...um=1&ct=result

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...ray_money.html

http://www.idfiles.com/menaairport.htm

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...gs/part_2.html

[Hippie3]

so what ?
i could post a hundred links about UFOs, the Greys, etc.
but that is not proof, not evidence.
just nutcases vouching for each other.

[August West]

so I'm curious, when do you determine that a story is bullshit? When it doesn't fit your idea of legitimate? You obviously didn't read a single line from any of the stories.

[Hippie3]

it's not like this is NEW news,
it's a 'controversy' well over a decade old
and in that time span i've done plenty of reading on it.
i daresay nothing new has been discovered recently.
as to my analysis of the case
there simply isn't any 'smoking gun' evidence,
no hard proof.
every investigative reporter worth his/her salt
dug into this story,
so did congress and various law enforcement agencies
from state to federal
and no one was able to build a case.
of course there are those for whom belief
is a matter of faith
and any lack of evidence is explained away
by claims of stealth helocopters and MIB
and conspiracies of the illuminati, etc.
and that's where i call
bullshit.
it's a fairy tale,
passed down to the present
by folks like you
who just will never let it go, never move on.
but it amuses me to battle folks who spread
disinformation and paranoid delusional conspiracies.
so here we are...

[lucysd]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

it's not like this is NEW news,
it's a 'controversy' well over a decade old
and in that time span i've done plenty of reading on it.
i daresay nothing new has been discovered recently.
as to my analysis of the case
there simply isn't any 'smoking gun' evidence,
no hard proof.
every investigative reporter worth his/her salt
dug into this story,
so did congress and various law enforcement agencies
from state to federal
and no one was able to build a case.
of course there are those for whom belief
is a matter of faith
and any lack of evidence is explained away
by claims of stealth helocopters and MIB
and conspiracies of the illuminati, etc.
and that's where i call
bullshit.
it's a fairy tale,
passed down to the present
by folks like you
who just will never let it go, never move on.
but it amuses me to battle folks who spread
disinformation and paranoid delusional conspiracies.
so here we are...

ha its just like that bulshit save the earth concept
and the whole save indangered species
what self indulgent bullshit
made by humans to feel better about themselves

ha the earth is fine, it doesnt need saving, everything were polluting onto this earth came from the earth lmao
its not the earth were trying to save its humans

[August West]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

as to my analysis of the case there simply isn't any 'smoking gun' evidence, no hard proof.

and of course here's the crux. YOUR analysis...and, MY analysis.

As regards to no "hard" proof or no federal admittance - WTF? You take a lack of gov't oversight as proof of something not happening? Or the official gov't line as hard evidence or thorough investigation? (I guess psilocybin and THC and LSD are more harmful than alcohol 'cause the gov't says so and you and the crack pots keep spreading disinfo about them).

Gary Webb (at the san jose mercury news) did exhaustive research on this case, built up substantial evidence and published a book about it. So has Peter Dale Scott and Alexander Cockburn. The case is built and there is substantial evidence. Are you really surprised that something like this wouldn't get "official" recognition by federal agencies or the extremely thorough U.S. congress?

But that's the easy "debunking" argument right? Step outside the actual discussion, lumping all the "conspiracy theories" together in order to paint the person as "delusional". But of course, I haven't mentioned MIB, the Illuminati or stealth helicopters anywhere.

Finally, I am over this one. You'll recall, I didn't originally bring it up - just added to the post. Might be nice for someone unfamiliar with the case to get more than just the accepted official line of coverup.

[Mario]

any illegal substance that is worth money is subject to illegal government cartels.

Let's say a guy gets busted with some weed.

The cop turns in half of what was confiscated smokes a bowl of it with his wife and sells it to his old highschool buddy George.

George, being a drug dealer, sells it to rick who later gets busted again and the cycle starts all over again.

This cycle is very profitable to the feds, and for those currently in power a great way to perpetuate the cycle is to inject large masses of contraband into the country. It's as simple as that.

You don't have to be a genius, you don't have to have any other proof other than human nature, power corruption and greed to verify this as the truth.

For all the septics out there, GET REAL.

[Hippie3]

you don't have to have any other proof other than human nature, power corruption and greed to verify this as the truth

by your own logic then
i convict you of
murder, treason, arson, pedophilia, necrophilia, theft,
hypocrisy, dishonesty, avarice, cannibalism, perversion-
etc.

you must be guilty
because you are human
and humans do those kinds of things.

that is your own argument
pointed right back at you.
guilty.
no need for proof.
no appeal to the facts.

i'd rather be a 'septic' [sic]

[Mario]

Put in the right situation I might commit some of those.
I haven't been confronted by a situation that would lead me to murder, treason, arson, pedophilia, necrophilia, or canniblism.
But have battled with theft, hypocrisy, dishonesty, avarice, and perversion.

However, Policemen are put in these situations all the time.

I'm not personalizing this like you are, I'm looking at the probability for someone in the whole of law enforcement to commit one of these crimes on a large scale, and I conclude that it is plausible. I don't understand why you can't understand that.

[Hippie3]

august west,
talk about logically fallacious arguments,
i'm no government spokesman
so don't try to discredit my thoughts
by use of the government's reputation.

i'm as anti-government as it gets,
i don't even believe in democracy.

but i am a stickler for critical thinking
and i require real evidence to believe,
not some books,
i can write a book myself
but so what ?

sure, the government lies
but speaking of the obvious
it seems pretty damn obvious to me
that the government can legally get
as much cocaine as it wants.

the DEA could stockpile tons of it
and that would break no law.
they could land plane-loads
of it at JFK
or bring in container ships at pensacola.

so why on earth would they go to
the trouble of such petty antics as those alleged above ?
it just doesn't make sense for a government
with thousands of planes and ships under its' sole control
and bases all around the country and world
to use little airplanes carrying a few kilos
to some dirt landing strip in freakin' ARKANSAS ?

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by Mario

I'm not personalizing this like you are, I'm looking at the probability for someone in the whole of law enforcement to commit one of these crimes on a large scale, and I conclude that it is plausible.

gimme a break,
i'm not getting personal,
just showing how flawed your logic was.
now you say
'probability', 'plausible'-
but before you were
calling it the 'TRUTH'.
http://forums.mycotopia.net/548546-post20.html (Mena Arkansas - Whats Falling From The Sky ?)

You don't have to be a genius... to verify this as the truth.

well.
which is it ?
truth or possibility ?
there's a huge difference
so get it right.

[Mario]

Could be a lower ranking official, taking his slice of the American pie, so to speak.

Just because there is no evidence doesn't mean you totally dismiss the evidence that evidence can be ignored or destroyed.

[Mario]

How is my logic flawed?
You don't have to be a genius to verify this as a true phenomenon.

It's true because it's possible.

Murphy's law: "Anything that can happen, will happen."

[Hippie3]

first of all
that ain't murphy's law.
second,
murphy's law is a joke
so don't mis-quote it
as proof.

last
the logic is flawed
as i already showed.